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Old Jan 22, 2020 | 06:01 AM
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2021 facelift Mercedes E-Class first Review and all-new steering wheel

Finally a preview of the new E-class. All details explained including MBUX, steering wheel, 48 volt motor and more.

I like the avantgarde steering wheel better at 8:38 mark. Or should we get the AMG line?

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Old Jan 22, 2020 | 11:02 AM
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The steering wheel @ 8:38 is much better than the one @ 0:14. I can imagine getting my fingers stuck in the slot between the dual spokes.
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Old Jan 22, 2020 | 11:15 AM
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when would the 2020 be available ?
i'm up for a new lease soon, bu so far website still shows previous line..
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Old Jan 22, 2020 | 12:33 PM
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when would the 2020 be available ?
i'm up for a new lease soon, bu so far website still shows previous line..
I believe the above one will be the 2021 model to be released sometime this summer or fall, as the 2020 models have already hit the lots here and there’s no significant changes from the 2019s.
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Old Jan 22, 2020 | 03:39 PM
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Looks like they're attempting to address some of the ambiguous styling features that make it difficult to differentiate between the W205/W222/W213 . Note that the lights extend on to the trunk lid now (hidden by camo). The W212 facelift was extremely successful in my biased opinion, I think it will age much better than the pre-212 facelift. I've been watching this with interest because I figured my next car will be a M256 powered W213, but I really really do not like the current exterior styling.
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Old Jan 22, 2020 | 10:41 PM
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At least now we know the 2021 will have the inline hybrid 6 motor same as the CLS, so looks like about the same power and a little better gas mileage.
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Old Jan 23, 2020 | 09:31 PM
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Autogefuhl's detailed preview just dropped.

There's a bunch of things I would call bad news:
- The dual screens are now both 10.25 inches instead of the current 12.3 inches (if you have the dual-screen option).
- The center screen real estate taken by Apple CarPlay is now much smaller (around 40% smaller, see attached picture), which is terrible (hope it can be configured somehow). One of my favorite features when using Carplay is the huge satellite overview of the navigation path from google maps
- The starless chrome grill in the luxury version seems to be flattened and widened, making it look like a design afterthought (but it may look better when unwrapped).
- The AMG-line steering wheel looks atrocious, but they claim it can be interchanged with up to 5 different designs. Hope MBUSA provides that flexibility.

On a positive note, the AMG-line power bumps in the hood for the sedan are a nice touch. I love having them in my coupé.
It kind of sucks not having MBUX in the current car, but design-wise I'm kind of happy I bought my car when I did...
Let's hope Geneva 2020 shows something better than this seems.




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Old Jan 23, 2020 | 09:37 PM
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Plus that front end looks ugly.
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Old Jan 23, 2020 | 09:42 PM
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Plus that front end looks ugly.
Yeah, I'm mostly intrigued by the headlights appearing to extend so deeply into the wings, perhaps a camo trick.
The grille itself looks like a slightly less stretched iteration of the CLS, more aggressive than elegant.

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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by e400c
There's a bunch of things I would call bad news:
- The dual screens are now both 10.25 inches instead of the current 12.3 inches (if you have the dual-screen option).
The 12.3 inch screens will be available as an option
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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 12:13 PM
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If they would only update the damn front seats. I can’t get the headrest into a position that fits comfortably as the seat was designed for hunchbacks. Anyone with a straight posture will be bending his neck forward and slouching his shoulders. This seriously causes me aches and keeps me from purchasing an E class. If only I could transfer my S class seats over. I think a BMW 5 series is an inferior car but at least the seats are comfortable.
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Seats have always been a MB weak spot. They are very uncomfortable in the W213 - hard and ill fitting.
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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bkdc
If they would only update the damn front seats. I can’t get the headrest into a position that fits comfortably as the seat was designed for hunchbacks. Anyone with a straight posture will be bending his neck forward and slouching his shoulders. This seriously causes me aches and keeps me from purchasing an E class. If only I could transfer my S class seats over. I think a BMW 5 series is an inferior car but at least the seats are comfortable.

There are no seats like S class seats. Though I thought W212 E63 seats were pretty good.
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 12:01 PM
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Seats have always been a MB weak spot. They are very uncomfortable in the W213 - hard and ill fitting.
I find them excellent, but we are all created a bit differently. (I have AMG sport seats)
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 01:15 PM
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I find them excellent, but we are all created a bit differently. (I have AMG sport seats)
I agree. I sat in an S-Class to decide whether I wanted the Active Multicontour seats with Massage, and decided I did not like the massage, and the seats felt no better. I'm very happy with my E's seats. Oh, and it is sooooo quiet with the Acoustic Comfort Package!
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and it is sooooo quiet with the Acoustic Comfort Package!
Yes, that and the Burmester are the reasons I bought the car
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Originally Posted by e400c
Autogefuhl's detailed preview just dropped.

There's a bunch of things I would call bad news:
- The dual screens are now both 10.25 inches instead of the current 12.3 inches (if you have the dual-screen option).
- The center screen real estate taken by Apple CarPlay is now much smaller (around 40% smaller, see attached picture), which is terrible (hope it can be configured somehow). One of my favorite features when using Carplay is the huge satellite overview of the navigation path from google maps
- The starless chrome grill in the luxury version seems to be flattened and widened, making it look like a design afterthought (but it may look better when unwrapped).
- The AMG-line steering wheel looks atrocious, but they claim it can be interchanged with up to 5 different designs. Hope MBUSA provides that flexibility.

On a positive note, the AMG-line power bumps in the hood for the sedan are a nice touch. I love having them in my coupé.
It kind of sucks not having MBUX in the current car, but design-wise I'm kind of happy I bought my car when I did...
Let's hope Geneva 2020 shows something better than this seems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu_b6uLh9Dg


I may be wrong but those still look like 12.3 inch screens to me
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by e400c
Autogefuhl's detailed preview just dropped.

There's a bunch of things I would call bad news:
- The dual screens are now both 10.25 inches instead of the current 12.3 inches (if you have the dual-screen option).
- The center screen real estate taken by Apple CarPlay is now much smaller (around 40% smaller, see attached picture), which is terrible (hope it can be configured somehow). One of my favorite features when using Carplay is the huge satellite overview of the navigation path from google maps
- The starless chrome grill in the luxury version seems to be flattened and widened, making it look like a design afterthought (but it may look better when unwrapped).
- The AMG-line steering wheel looks atrocious, but they claim it can be interchanged with up to 5 different designs. Hope MBUSA provides that flexibility.
The 10.25 screens look a skosh taller than the current 12.3. Any word on that? (Android might fit)

I prefer the "solid" steering wheel. Reserve the right to change my mind after seeing it live, but I wonder if they did any market testing. Perhaps HQ doesn't care what MBUSA thinks.

The vertical bars in the lower front bumper are horrible. Hopefully part of the attempt to camouflage the changes.

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I'm sad that they took out the analog clock
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I'm sad that they took out the analog clock
maybe it's just missing in the pre-production model
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 07:04 PM
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Good thing they didn't get rid of the huge center button to access the air freshener, how would we live without that.
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Old Jan 30, 2020 | 01:03 AM
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maybe it's just missing in the pre-production model
if you look at the interior trim piece it looks complete and there isn't any room to fit on it,
it's gone.
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Just prayed for the existence of E580..
That would be awesome.
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Seats have always been a MB weak spot. They are very uncomfortable in the W213 - hard and ill fitting.
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