2018 Mercedes W213 E300 needs new engine @ 23K Miles
10-31-2020, 10:13 PM
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10-31-2020, 10:39 PM
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I'm thinking about what to write in the complaint form. I haven't had the issue yet but it seems like the W205 is. W213 and W205 have the same engine. Maybe someone else can file a comaplin
10-31-2020, 10:42 PM
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Uncertain. The VIN+piston part number is a growing dataset to see if there are common themes. What seems in my mind to be a smoking gun is the large number of superceded part numbers. Manufacturers do this when there are problems.
Similar with the Mercedes cam position sensor and cam solenoids, which in some engines on some models are prone to leakage, which sends oil through the wire harness and into the engine ECU whereby the ECU dies the death. In that situation there seems to be cam position sensor and cam solenoid part numbers where no one has reported an oil leak/harness wicking problem.
With the 2015-2018 range of piston problems reported on this site on the 2.0L M274, it's early to say what pattern exists, if any.
Similar with the Mercedes cam position sensor and cam solenoids, which in some engines on some models are prone to leakage, which sends oil through the wire harness and into the engine ECU whereby the ECU dies the death. In that situation there seems to be cam position sensor and cam solenoid part numbers where no one has reported an oil leak/harness wicking problem.
With the 2015-2018 range of piston problems reported on this site on the 2.0L M274, it's early to say what pattern exists, if any.
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10-31-2020, 10:53 PM
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Uncertain. The VIN+piston part number is a growing dataset to see if there are common themes. What seems in my mind to be a smoking gun is the large number of superceded part numbers. Manufacturers do this when there are problems.
Similar with the Mercedes cam position sensor and cam solenoids, which in some engines on some models are prone to leakage, which sends oil through the wire harness and into the engine ECU whereby the ECU dies the death. In that situation there seems to be cam position sensor and cam solenoid part numbers where no one has reported an oil leak/harness wicking problem.
With the 2015-2018 range of piston problems reported on this site on the 2.0L M274, it's early to say what pattern exists, if any.
Similar with the Mercedes cam position sensor and cam solenoids, which in some engines on some models are prone to leakage, which sends oil through the wire harness and into the engine ECU whereby the ECU dies the death. In that situation there seems to be cam position sensor and cam solenoid part numbers where no one has reported an oil leak/harness wicking problem.
With the 2015-2018 range of piston problems reported on this site on the 2.0L M274, it's early to say what pattern exists, if any.
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11-01-2020, 01:02 PM
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The E450 is MB revival of their inline 6. Do we know yet of any common issues with this new engine. I'd have to seriously consider an extended warranty here also.
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11-01-2020, 01:35 PM
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MB has been building 6 cylinder engines for nine decades. The M256 engine has been in service for almost 4 years starting with the 2017 S Class. There do not seem to be any common issues with this engine.
11-01-2020, 01:36 PM
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11-01-2020, 04:34 PM
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Idk, I've owned two of them. A 2003 BMW 330XI that I sold with 186k miles and I currently have a 2009 BMW 328 (N52) with the inline-six. Haven't had any major engine issues with either.
11-01-2020, 06:42 PM
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I had a 2008 535i and a 2012 740il. Both had similar issues. Each had a bunch of minor engine issues such as head gaskets, warped valve covers and oil seals. The oil seals had to be replaced almost every year (4k miles) at a $1k cost (years 5 to 10). My BMW's came with no cost routine maintenance (years 1 to 4) but I spent more on uncovered maintenance than the cost of insurance. I finally sold the car when they were 10 & 7 years old with 40k miles on each. I spent about $3k per year each on maintenance. Each car was maintained according to the recommended schedule exclusively by my local BMW dealer. BMW = Bring Mechanic With
11-01-2020, 07:00 PM
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I had a 2008 535i and a 2012 740il. Both had similar issues. Each had a bunch of minor engine issues such as head gaskets, warped valve covers and oil seals. The oil seals had to be replaced almost every year (4k miles) at a $1k cost (years 5 to 10). My BMW's came with no cost routine maintenance (years 1 to 4) but I spent more on uncovered maintenance than the cost of insurance. I finally sold the car when they were 10 & 7 years old with 40k miles on each. I spent about $3k per year each on maintenance. Each car was maintained according to the recommended schedule exclusively by my local BMW dealer. BMW = Bring Mechanic With
Yeah, those two Engines are the ones to stay away from. The 535 has the twin-turbo V6 and the 740 has the V8. The only thing I had to do on the E46 was the oil filter housing gasket and the cooling system overhaul (water pump thermostat and all the coolant hoses). Other than that and normal suspension things going out, never had an issue. WIth the 328 N52, the only thing I've done with the 72k miles I've driven it was the oil filter housing gasket and the valve cover gasket. I do the majority of the maintenance and repairs on my cars myself. Saves me a bunch of money. The best engines and most reliable engines BMW makes are the inline 6.. The V8 and V10, suck.
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11-01-2020, 09:22 PM
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I've owned 13 BMWs. All but 2 had their I6 3L. Never had an issue with any of them except a HPFP on a 2010 335i convertible. It was replaced under warranty. The current one in my 2019 X5 is the smoothest running engine I have owned, much smoother than the TT V6 in my SL.
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11-01-2020, 09:41 PM
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I've owned 13 BMWs. All but 2 had their I6 3L. Never had an issue with any of them except a HPFP on a 2010 335i convertible. It was replaced under warranty. The current one in my 2019 X5 is the smoothest running engine I have owned, much smoother than the TT V6 in my SL.
11-02-2020, 02:55 AM
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Glad I didnt get another one of these lemons, I knew the engine was under powered and stressed for this big of a car. Cant understand how its inside of the GLE, how will that thing tow with this engine.
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11-02-2020, 07:15 AM
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im wondering if the 2012+ BMW 528 and the 2019 BMW X5 with the 2.0L 4 cylinders have any issues with the engine. I haven’t read of any on the forums.
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11-02-2020, 08:10 AM
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Yeah, those two Engines are the ones to stay away from. The 535 has the twin-turbo V6 and the 740 has the V8. The only thing I had to do on the E46 was the oil filter housing gasket and the cooling system overhaul (water pump thermostat and all the coolant hoses). Other than that and normal suspension things going out, never had an issue. WIth the 328 N52, the only thing I've done with the 72k miles I've driven it was the oil filter housing gasket and the valve cover gasket. I do the majority of the maintenance and repairs on my cars myself. Saves me a bunch of money. The best engines and most reliable engines BMW makes are the inline 6.. The V8 and V10, suck.
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11-02-2020, 03:52 PM
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For us, no problems with the B48 so far. Based on what I am seeing on bimmerpost, I will be surprised if anything major occurs, that is not related to high-ish mileage.
11-02-2020, 03:59 PM
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Not sure the W205 and W213 motors are exactly the same, or how their minor differences effect engine reliability / durability.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merced...70/M274_engine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merced...70/M274_engine
11-02-2020, 08:45 PM
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@Cao Black Did you see the piston/engine cross reference below, from a few pages back on this thread? The GLC-, E- and C-Class M274 engines across these models share many foundational components, one of them being the piston.
2017 GLC 300 4MATIC
WDC0G4KB3HF201444
Engine M274.920
Piston A2740300417 then A2740300900
Change points noted Oct 2015, Mar 2017, Feb 2018
2018 E 300 4MATIC
WDDZF4KBXJA337353
Engine M274.920
Piston A2740300900, no change history
2015 C 300 4MATIC
55SWF4KB5FU075865
Engine M274.920
Piston A2740300417 then A2740300900
Change points noted Oct 2015, Mar 2017, Feb 2018
2020 GLE 350 4MATIC
No VIN
Engine M264.920
Piston A2640301800 and A2640301700, no change history
2017 GLC 300 4MATIC
WDC0G4KB3HF201444
Engine M274.920
Piston A2740300417 then A2740300900
Change points noted Oct 2015, Mar 2017, Feb 2018
2018 E 300 4MATIC
WDDZF4KBXJA337353
Engine M274.920
Piston A2740300900, no change history
2015 C 300 4MATIC
55SWF4KB5FU075865
Engine M274.920
Piston A2740300417 then A2740300900
Change points noted Oct 2015, Mar 2017, Feb 2018
2020 GLE 350 4MATIC
No VIN
Engine M264.920
Piston A2640301800 and A2640301700, no change history
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11-03-2020, 06:50 AM
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now I am confused! is it common in new E-class cars (2017-2020) or this is from 2018? I already did the following in the 70K km replaced (time belt, spark plugs, transition oil, and filters) I hope that no piston will fail on me or suck one of those spark plugs!!
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11-08-2020, 08:18 PM
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I own 2014 E350 and I absolutely love my car. I encouraged my sister to buy E300 in 2018 as they rated one of the safest vehicle manufacture in the world. Now she needs a new engine on the w213. She was driving home from a local grocery shop last week and suddenly engine started shaking in the middle of the road. I was with her and I saw check engine light came on. I told he to move the car to the middle lane and stopped the engine. I was not sure what is happening. I called MB customer service and they sent a towing truck to tow it to the nearest MB dealer. Next day they mentioned spark plug went into the engine and destroyed the entire engine. I was shocked because it only has 23K miles and i always make sure her car is up to dated with all the services. ( Spark plug replacement interval in service manual shows 50K or 5 years ) I spoke to one of my friends at different Mercedes dealers and he said they are replacing engine almost every week for the same reason on W213. Why Mercedes is not recalling this car, is there a manufacturing defect? she is so concerned now and scared of driving, they gave her a loaner car and told her engine will be replaced under warranty. She was lucky that it did not happen on a freeway. Does anyone have a similar experience?
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11-09-2020, 08:17 AM
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The E class has had 4 cylinder engines from the 1953 beginning in all 5 generations of the E class. MB has sold more 4's than 5's, 6's, 8's or 12's.
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11-09-2020, 07:18 PM
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I don't understand why some of us here are so paranoid about this issue.
I personally don't think this happens a lot. I have not heard anyone with C or E with 4 pot having any issues in Australia at least.
If this was a very apparent problem, it will certainly be in the media for sure.
I think the more problematic system is the Air suspension. I have heard many having issues with this. Especially at South East Asia.
I personally don't think this happens a lot. I have not heard anyone with C or E with 4 pot having any issues in Australia at least.
If this was a very apparent problem, it will certainly be in the media for sure.
I think the more problematic system is the Air suspension. I have heard many having issues with this. Especially at South East Asia.
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