jimbg

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ries-worldwide

DFWdude

Ah, yes. I forgot to mention those...

JakeW213

... and then enters the wristwatch. You cannot get around that there is no highend digital wristwatch that comes close to a highend analog wristwatch.

So you might have one for sport activities, but when your out and about, my guess is that most people that shell out for a an expensive car also likes expensive watches... and will wear those.

I would rather have one Audemars Piguet than 500 apple watches

DFWdude

We're not discussing haughty wrist watches. We're talking about a simple, no-name clock in the dash. So let's not start a "my **** is bigger than yours" discussion, please.

My W212 has the clock. While I like it, to be honest the cellphone mount obscures most of it from the driver's seat. My wife cannot see it (at all) from the passenger seat.

Elvisfan0108

I have no idea what a Audemars is. While I apparently have no problem shelling out over 60k for a car, I’ve never spent over $500 for a watch. Before the Apple Watch, I had nice Citizen watches. I was never big on jewelry. If a watch can’t tell me when to stand up and exercise, I’m not interested.

places

I agree. One AP over endless apple watches all day. Unless you've worn a high end watch and can appreciate what goes into it you will never understand.

LILBENZ230

One can understand and appreciate precision craftsmanship without desiring it.

I hate any sort of jewelry and like an above poster said - if it can't remind me to stand up, track exercise, show me my to do lists and messages.. not interested in wearing it.

I like the way the analog clock looks in my W212 and in my Porsche, but I never really use them. CarPlay is always active in the Mercedes and I glance at it, and the Porsche displays the time in the gauge cluster.

The_Judge

I like analog clocks, have several in my home including a huge grandfather clock in the living room and a mantle clock in the family room. But I also have a slew of digital clocks throughout the house, mostly on various electronic devices but also on clocks that coordinate with either the Internet or satellites to show the exact time, which is helpful if not essential for a number of things, and they're also easier to read in the dark. Nonetheless, I still like "real" clocks. However, as for the analog clock in my 2018 E400 Coup, i think it's too small to be of much use, particularly because of where it's located. Yeah, it's sorta pretty (not really — looks kinda cheap to me, like an afterthought), and I would actually prefer a well-located, easy-to-read digital clock.

places

I can respect that. Personally, I don't view high end watches as jewelry. The fact that these are intricate and highly complicated machines made by hand with several hundred parts that work in harmony to exact the time is quite remarkable. Add complications such as calendar functions, a moonphase, and chronograph then it becomes nearly impossible to fathom, imagine all those pieces in a tiny disc!

Cao Black

In this case, the most desirable attributes IMO are those that customers like. Betamax vs VCR, and Coke Zero come to mind. Just because some crafty engineer can design a "knobless" dash doesn't make it preferable. I would love to hear comments from 2021 owners on the MBUX console touchpad versus the feel and precision of the COMAND wheel.

nycebo

I can't believe this comment made it by without any reaction. Best comment in this ridiculous thread.

Yes, please add another useless menu button. I still can't get over the AC review menu item in my e450. That air flow diagram is even more useless than the analog clock.

decorily

It looks good!!!!

Cao Black

​​​​​​Cellphone mount? Weren't those used back in the last millennium? And if "bigger than yours" wasn't a thing we would all wear Timex manual wind and drive Pintos.

murman

QFT. Did the menu button once have a more useful function that has since been superseded, or has it always been pointless? Or maybe it's more useful on a really stripped down version of the W213? Maybe the taxi version?

whoover

It brings us the sync option if you have the three-zone climate control. Otherwise it's useless.

DFWdude

I'm absolutely certain I'm not the only one to have one of these clamped to a vane in my air vent...




When my phone sits in it, it blocks viewing part of the analog clock in the dash. (Shazam... I can't take a pic of the phone in the holder when...)

There are other threads specifically named for high end wrist watches. This thread is about the center clock that some like, others don't.

ua549

I've never found a use for a mounted cellular handset. After all one can send and receive voice and text messages using COMAND/MBUX and the steering wheel controls.

DFWdude

But, but... How do you play TETRIS?

ua549

What's that?

murman

A duplicative sync button, in addition to the sync button for the front two-zone system? Huh... the plot thickens.

whoover

There are other options (like Focus/Medium/Diffuse and Air Balance) if you have 3-zone and Air Balance when you push MENU up. If you have residual heat option, it's triggered by pressing MENU down. It's just that most cars have none of these options and the manual doesn't explain any of this. Focus/Medium/Diffuse is in the manual but it doesn't mention you need 3-zone climate control for it to work. I remember hunting for it when I first got the car.

whoover

In older models SYNC allowed syncing with the rear in 3-zone, but in the 213 SYNC is just for front left and right and a menu item is needed for rear. To make this simpler, they added the MENU button as a short cut to the climate menu.

DFWdude

Are we still discussing a dash clock?

Cao Black

Sort of.,
To be clear, we were discussing why Mercedes would eliminate it. Aside from it's functionality (telling you the time in an old fashion sort of way), it adds a touch of elegance to the acclaimed W213 interior...AND, it is already there! Why remove it? Isn't it still in the cheaper and less desirable C Class?

whoover

BTW, I only use the analog clock when I'm driving. It seems to get the time into my brain quicker than processing a digital readout. I don't need to know it's exactly 4:23; a glance at a clock face immediately registers the time whereas it takes a few milliseconds to "decode" the time from the digits. And at 100 mph, any distraction is too much. It's the same reason I don't like digital speedometers.