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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 11:15 AM
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I have 2019 e450 sedan with 7,400 miles. Clearly I don't drive often, and with covid...even less this year (about 1,500 miles). How often should i be getting an oil change. The manual says 10,000 miles or 1 year. How bad is it is i skip a year?

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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 11:46 AM
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You paid ~ $70K to $80K for your car and you're worried about saving a few bucks by skipping a recommended oil change? No offense, but I suggest that you rethink your priorities.
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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 11:52 AM
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You paid ~ $70K to $80K for your car and you're worried about saving a few bucks by skipping a recommended oil change? No offense, but I suggest that you rethink your priorities.
Wow, no where in his question was any of this said. Maybe you need to rethink your priorities.
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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 11:59 AM
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Wow, no where in his question was any of this said. Maybe you need to rethink your priorities.
Gee, I guess I was confused when he asked, "How bad is it is i skip a year?"
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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sabre3
... no where in his question was any of this said...
Questions like this are raised numerous times. The reason is alway one and the same. If a dealer would perform any of the "low/under mileage" services complimentary, I bet we would never see similar questions. So while I do not know OP, IMHO yes it was absolutely implied, as it (almost) always is.
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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 12:09 PM
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Questions like this are raised numerous times. The reason is alway one and the same. If a dealer would perform any of the "low/under mileage" services complimentary, I bet we would never see similar questions. So while I do not know OP, IMHO yes it was absolutely implied, as it (almost) always is.
I guess I do not understand you completely. The question, to me, was whether or not it would be hurtful to the car....not once did he say he was worried about the expense.

It was explained he hasn't driven the car and met the mileage requirements. Instead of saying something constructive, it was a lecture on how much money he spent and being worried about spending more. I don;t see that as helpful and only meant to disparage. Is that what this forum is about?
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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 12:23 PM
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^^^ We clearly "read" it differently. Classic glass half full / half empty argument.
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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sabre3
I guess I do not understand you completely. The question, to me, was whether or not it would be hurtful to the car....not once did he say he was worried about the expense.

It was explained he hasn't driven the car and met the mileage requirements. Instead of saying something constructive, it was a lecture on how much money he spent and being worried about spending more. I don;t see that as helpful and only meant to disparage. Is that what this forum is about?
Why would you contemplate skipping a year if not to save money? Otherwise the question would not come up. For the poster, you skip a year and you have engine problems, you will be on the hook. Warranty will not cover it.
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My MB dealer offers 30 minute oil changes with no appointment needed.
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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 09:21 PM
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If it wasn't under warranty, I would comfortably drag it out to 2 years... thats my habit on some of the cars/motorcycles I drive less frequently. Its not about the money, its just wasteful to dump 2-3k synthetic that's only a year old.
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Old Jun 25, 2021 | 09:47 AM
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Save the used synthetic motor oil along with used cooking oil to make diesel fuel.
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Old Jun 25, 2021 | 02:57 PM
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Hi,
I appreciate all the input. To clarify, it wasn't about the cost but rather the necessity. I bought my car in Southampton, NY. I live in NJ, so to travel over 2 hours for something that I might not need was the reason for my inquiry. My local dealer could easily do it, but they kinda suck to deal with and they won't give a loaner for service related issues. My dealer in NY would. I just wanted to know if it would damage my car if I skipped months until I was back in NY.
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Old Jun 25, 2021 | 05:02 PM
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haha looks like everyone got served. it wasn't $$$ nor the car. it was due to the travel. There goes to assuming things without fully hearing somebody out ... especially on the net !!!
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Old Jun 25, 2021 | 06:21 PM
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^^^One may buy the car where price is better or the exact selection is available. But one services where one lives because it is much more convenient. There are a number of MB dealers in NJ. More dealers in 5 Boroughs on the way form NJ to the very Eastern LI. All of them are bad? As I said I do not know the OP, but sorry I do not buy the argument - loaner for a 4 hour round trip? Common.

To the OP: nothing will happen to the car if you postpone oil change by a few months.
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Old Jun 25, 2021 | 09:52 PM
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^^^One may buy the car where price is better or the exact selection is available. But one services where one lives because it is much more convenient. There are a number of MB dealers in NJ. More dealers in 5 Boroughs on the way form NJ to the very Eastern LI. All of them are bad? As I said I do not know the OP, but sorry I do not buy the argument - loaner for a 4 hour round trip? Common.

To the OP: nothing will happen to the car if you postpone oil change by a few months.
as I said, you could have warranty problems if you go much past a year.
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Old Jul 5, 2021 | 07:43 AM
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Why not just answer the question?

...if you have a concrete answer, and not go off into editorialized statements that castigate the poster for simply asking a basic question?
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Old Jul 5, 2021 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Judge
You paid ~ $70K to $80K for your car and you're worried about saving a few bucks by skipping a recommended oil change? No offense, but I suggest that you rethink your priorities.
I did not get to this point in life by throwing money away - and I do not intend to start now.

My thinking is this: With synthetic oil, unlike oils of yesterday, there is no shelf life: Synthetic oils do not age.

Like you, during the past year I have driven very little - I have 18,000 miles on my 2019 E450 which i got in December 2018 - 30 months ago. I did not change my oil after two years, last December 2020 - I only put 3,000 miles on the car after the first oil change. With 3,000 miles since the last oil change, I saw no reason to change the oil.

Now that I have close to 19,000 miles, I plan to set up an appointment to do the "B" service.

Of course there is no harm in changing your oil every year - but personally I think it is totally unnecessary.
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Old Jul 5, 2021 | 08:31 AM
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Why would you contemplate skipping a year if not to save money? Otherwise the question would not come up. For the poster, you skip a year and you have engine problems, you will be on the hook. Warranty will not cover it.
Absolutely not: not changing your oil does not void your warranty.

To void the warranty, MB would have to show that the engine failure, highly unlikely, is the direct result of not changing the oil - which is impossible as synthetic oil does not age.



Can you say the word "paranoid".
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Old Jul 5, 2021 | 08:35 AM
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^^^One may buy the car where price is better or the exact selection is available. But one services where one lives because it is much more convenient. There are a number of MB dealers in NJ. More dealers in 5 Boroughs on the way form NJ to the very Eastern LI. All of them are bad? As I said I do not know the OP, but sorry I do not buy the argument - loaner for a 4 hour round trip? Common.

To the OP: nothing will happen to the car if you postpone oil change by a few months.
I agree: I service my MB, with an appointment, at the local dealer - not the dealer I bought the car from. Service "A" takes less than 1 hour. I barely get to the waiting room before my car is ready - also I go to the showroom to see the latest models!

I would never drive 4 hours and over $25 in tolls to change my oil!
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Originally Posted by bmwpowere36m3
If it wasn't under warranty, I would comfortably drag it out to 2 years... thats my habit on some of the cars/motorcycles I drive less frequently. Its not about the money, its just wasteful to dump 2-3k synthetic that's only a year old.
Normally, I drive about 5-6,000 miles a year, and change the oil annually, even though it could go longer.

During this Pandemic, I've driven less than 2,000 miles the past 16 months. I checked the oil in March, at the year mark (1,300 mi), and it looked brand new (Mobil 1 0-40). So I decided to extend until this Fall, because I change my own oil on my driveway -- I enjoy it -- but will not do so in the 100º Summer heat. If it remains hot in Sept/October, I will wait til next March (2-years) and not lose any sleep.

I reserve 2-hour sweat sessions in the sun for mowing my grass once a week (Dr. request). I used to wash my cars year-round too, but now take them to the full service car washes, or recruit my grandsons when they are at my home. They love it.

I have 3 five-gallon jugs of Mobil 1 0-40 sitting in my garage since last October, enough to change the oil in both MBs. The consensus here is that synthetic oil has no "use by date." I agree with bmwpowere36m3 that throwing away barely used synthetic is a waste.

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Originally Posted by DannyMBinNJ
Hi,
I appreciate all the input. To clarify, it wasn't about the cost but rather the necessity. I bought my car in Southampton, NY. I live in NJ, so to travel over 2 hours for something that I might not need was the reason for my inquiry. My local dealer could easily do it, but they kinda suck to deal with and they won't give a loaner for service related issues. My dealer in NY would. I just wanted to know if it would damage my car if I skipped months until I was back in NY.
Danny, I am in NJ as well...NNJ...who is your local dealer? I've never had much luck with the local dealers. In the recent past -- upsell, upsell, upsell, and more upsell -- and the reasons are getting more "necessary" and more "urgent" so to speak. However, there are a few non-dealer options that are top notch. Let me know and thanks.
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Absolutely not: not changing your oil does not void your warranty.

To void the warranty, MB would have to show that the engine failure, highly unlikely, is the direct result of not changing the oil - which is impossible as synthetic oil does not age.



Can you say the word "paranoid".
Look on these forums and there have been engine failures. MB does not have to prove anything. All they would have to do is say that you haven’t changed the oil in 2 years and you could be fighting them over it. MB probably has more lawyers than you do.
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Originally Posted by Elvisfan0108
Look on these forums and there have been engine failures. MB does not have to prove anything. All they would have to do is say that you haven’t changed the oil in 2 years and you could be fighting them over it. MB probably has more lawyers than you do.
All MB has to do is show that one did not maintain their vehicle according to the maintenance requirements.

All we ask is that you properly maintain and care for the vehicle and that you have Agreement repairs performed by an authorized Mercedes-Benz Dealership. Please note the difference between “defects and “damage” as used in the Agreement. Defects in workmanship or materials are covered. Conversely, we have no control over damage caused by such things as, but not limited to, collision, misuse, and lack of or improper maintenance. Therefore, such damage for any reason is not covered by this Agreement.

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Originally Posted by Elvisfan0108
Look on these forums and there have been engine failures. MB does not have to prove anything. All they would have to do is say that you haven’t changed the oil in 2 years and you could be fighting them over it. MB probably has more lawyers than you do.
Actually no - and you know this to be true: Engine failure is covered under the warranty. This is the starting paint - the default position.

For Mercedes to deny responsibility they would have to prove that something you did or did not do was the direct cause of the engine failure.

As the Buffalo Springfield sang:

"Paranoia strikes deep
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It starts when you're always afraid"

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Actually no - and you know this to be true: Engine failure is covered under the warranty. This is the starting paint - the default position.

For Mercedes to deny responsibility they would have to prove that something you did or did not do was the direct cause of the engine failure.

As the Buffalo Springfield sang:

"Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
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We could go back and forth all day on this. On the C forums there are reports of engine failures. First thing the dealer asked to see was the maintenance records. MB is not going to break down an engine to see if they are liable for the repair. Or if they are not liable. They could very well claim lack of maintenance is the cause. You would have to prove otherwise. Dealers may make lots of money on people saying “I only drove 3,000 miles, I don’t have to change the oil. You may be correct that nothing happens. If it does, they have an easy out.
Also, I have no idea what this has to do with paranoia.
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