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Snows...Hakka R3 vs pilot alpin 4?

Old Aug 3, 2021 | 01:15 PM
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Snows...Hakka R3 vs pilot alpin 4?

I know I know...lots of threads from over the years, but I haven't seen this specific thing discussed.

Has anyone had personal experience with both the Hakka R3 and the PA4?

I've had the R3's on my last 3 cars and loved them, but those were all range rovers and they were such big fat boats...hard to even notice a handling trade-off since they bob and weave so much anyway.

The PA's look like they would have much better dry road manners, and 90% of my driving is dry road - but that other 10% is often really bad storm driving through some remote-ish areas and it's hard to say how much snow performance you're really giving up with the PA.

If anyone has owned both, I'd appreciate hearing your experience!
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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 01:25 PM
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Have had pilot alpins on my old evoque and have hakka r3 now on my e class. The hakkas feel more stable, but might be more the car than the tyres. Only thing I can say are that the hakka r3 work fine on the e-class, good ride and quieter than my primacy 3 summer tires even though I run 19 inch (245x40)
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Old Aug 4, 2021 | 01:49 PM
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I don't have direct comparison experience, but I have been incredibly satisfied with the Hakkas compared to every other snow tire I've run. I'll be putting a set of R3s on my car this winter.
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Old Aug 4, 2021 | 02:26 PM
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Thanks guys. I guess trade offs both ways but the hakkas are the 'devil I know' so will probably go that route.
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Old Aug 8, 2021 | 10:54 PM
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I had them on our 2 cars, side-by-side for 3 winters. If it snows we take the car with the Hakkas. The PA4 is what reviewers all say - more sporty, but doesn't do as well in snow. The PA4 is better than all-seasons in snow, but nowhere near as sure footed in snow as the Hakkas.
You won't go wrong with the Hakkas. Hope this helps!

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