Capacitive Touch Screen
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Capacitive Touch Screen
Hi All,
I have a Mercedes Benz MY17 E300 W213 5.5 head unit. I do not wish to replace my head unit with one of those android ones that do touch screen. My head unit is not touch screen, yet I wish to retain it.
I have seen capacitive touch screens available for left hand drive (LHD) vehicles that overlay the existing screen allowing the existing head unit screen to be touch screen (such as this https://indiworkshop.com/shop/parts/...enz-w213-w222/ ) . Does anyone know of a RHD solution for this? I am based in Melbourne, Australia.
Thanks in advance.
I have a Mercedes Benz MY17 E300 W213 5.5 head unit. I do not wish to replace my head unit with one of those android ones that do touch screen. My head unit is not touch screen, yet I wish to retain it.
I have seen capacitive touch screens available for left hand drive (LHD) vehicles that overlay the existing screen allowing the existing head unit screen to be touch screen (such as this https://indiworkshop.com/shop/parts/...enz-w213-w222/ ) . Does anyone know of a RHD solution for this? I am based in Melbourne, Australia.
Thanks in advance.
Last edited by LarrikinAus; Aug 11, 2024 at 11:22 PM.
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We are limited in options down under. Not only would you need a RHD version of the panel, then you have to get into coding the NTG5.5 to work like MBUX. Plus your warranty will be void with this modification.
The only independent shop that come to mind is maybe German Star Motors in Preston/Reservoir as their bread and butter seems to be MB parts - even then I doubt they’d have it.
I’ve stopped going to the dealer after my free servicing package ended last year. Ammstar Fairfield, Geelong Merc Specialists and Eurostar Diesels Sunshine are competitively priced with each other. Even then, Genuine parts prices are ridiculous here!
The only independent shop that come to mind is maybe German Star Motors in Preston/Reservoir as their bread and butter seems to be MB parts - even then I doubt they’d have it.
I’ve stopped going to the dealer after my free servicing package ended last year. Ammstar Fairfield, Geelong Merc Specialists and Eurostar Diesels Sunshine are competitively priced with each other. Even then, Genuine parts prices are ridiculous here!
Last edited by aks_19_ak; Aug 12, 2024 at 03:24 PM.
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We are limited in options down under. Not only would you need a RHD version of the panel, then you have to get into coding the NTG5.5 to work like MBUX. Plus your warranty will be void with this modification.
The only independent shop that come to mind is maybe German Star Motors in Preston/Reservoir as their bread and butter seems to be MB parts - even then I doubt they’d have it.
I’ve stopped going to the dealer after my free servicing package ended last year. Ammstar Fairfield, Geelong Merc Specialists and Eurostar Diesels Sunshine are competitively priced with each other. Even then, Genuine parts prices are ridiculous here!
The only independent shop that come to mind is maybe German Star Motors in Preston/Reservoir as their bread and butter seems to be MB parts - even then I doubt they’d have it.
I’ve stopped going to the dealer after my free servicing package ended last year. Ammstar Fairfield, Geelong Merc Specialists and Eurostar Diesels Sunshine are competitively priced with each other. Even then, Genuine parts prices are ridiculous here!
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It looks too good to be true to be a plug and play add on for NTG 5.5.
Their YouTube videos show it to be installed with their Android 7 set top box for functionality.
After using MBUX on loan cars, I much prefer the manual dial of NTG 5.5 Comand that we have. Mainly because I’ve gotten used to it and have found a rhythm that works for me. Capacitive screens really do take significant attention and effort to manipulate. Wired CarPlay with the comand dial works best for me with tactile feedback + muscle memory trumping the ‘aim finger here’ approach. I actually don’t even use the capacitive cursors on my post-2019 steering wheel as I didn't find them as reliable as the dial, and thus haven’t gotten used to them.
The less said about voice control, the better. It takes considerable brain power to think, and then articulate a coherent command to Siri while driving on the West gate bridge for instance; Never mind, ‘Hey Mercedes’.
To me, these interfaces are high effort/ high engagement. It doesn’t inspire confidence when moving a 2 ton brick at 100km/h at the same time.
Their YouTube videos show it to be installed with their Android 7 set top box for functionality.
After using MBUX on loan cars, I much prefer the manual dial of NTG 5.5 Comand that we have. Mainly because I’ve gotten used to it and have found a rhythm that works for me. Capacitive screens really do take significant attention and effort to manipulate. Wired CarPlay with the comand dial works best for me with tactile feedback + muscle memory trumping the ‘aim finger here’ approach. I actually don’t even use the capacitive cursors on my post-2019 steering wheel as I didn't find them as reliable as the dial, and thus haven’t gotten used to them.
The less said about voice control, the better. It takes considerable brain power to think, and then articulate a coherent command to Siri while driving on the West gate bridge for instance; Never mind, ‘Hey Mercedes’.
To me, these interfaces are high effort/ high engagement. It doesn’t inspire confidence when moving a 2 ton brick at 100km/h at the same time.
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Hi All,
I have a Mercedes Benz MY17 E300 W213 5.5 head unit. I do not wish to replace my head unit with one of those android ones that do touch screen. My head unit is not touch screen, yet I wish to retain it.
I have seen capacitive touch screens available for left hand drive (LHD) vehicles that overlay the existing screen allowing the existing head unit screen to be touch screen (such as this https://indiworkshop.com/shop/parts/...enz-w213-w222/ ) . Does anyone know of a RHD solution for this? I am based in Melbourne, Australia.
Thanks in advance.
I have a Mercedes Benz MY17 E300 W213 5.5 head unit. I do not wish to replace my head unit with one of those android ones that do touch screen. My head unit is not touch screen, yet I wish to retain it.
I have seen capacitive touch screens available for left hand drive (LHD) vehicles that overlay the existing screen allowing the existing head unit screen to be touch screen (such as this https://indiworkshop.com/shop/parts/...enz-w213-w222/ ) . Does anyone know of a RHD solution for this? I am based in Melbourne, Australia.
Thanks in advance.
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It looks too good to be true to be a plug and play add on for NTG 5.5.
Their YouTube videos show it to be installed with their Android 7 set top box for functionality.
After using MBUX on loan cars, I much prefer the manual dial of NTG 5.5 Comand that we have. Mainly because I’ve gotten used to it and have found a rhythm that works for me. Capacitive screens really do take significant attention and effort to manipulate. Wired CarPlay with the comand dial works best for me with tactile feedback + muscle memory trumping the ‘aim finger here’ approach. I actually don’t even use the capacitive cursors on my post-2019 steering wheel as I didn't find them as reliable as the dial, and thus haven’t gotten used to them.
The less said about voice control, the better. It takes considerable brain power to think, and then articulate a coherent command to Siri while driving on the West gate bridge for instance; Never mind, ‘Hey Mercedes’.
To me, these interfaces are high effort/ high engagement. It doesn’t inspire confidence when moving a 2 ton brick at 100km/h at the same time.
https://youtu.be/Y-_7FUaFClc?si=YnFlTlzjqwC-WKhF
Their YouTube videos show it to be installed with their Android 7 set top box for functionality.
After using MBUX on loan cars, I much prefer the manual dial of NTG 5.5 Comand that we have. Mainly because I’ve gotten used to it and have found a rhythm that works for me. Capacitive screens really do take significant attention and effort to manipulate. Wired CarPlay with the comand dial works best for me with tactile feedback + muscle memory trumping the ‘aim finger here’ approach. I actually don’t even use the capacitive cursors on my post-2019 steering wheel as I didn't find them as reliable as the dial, and thus haven’t gotten used to them.
The less said about voice control, the better. It takes considerable brain power to think, and then articulate a coherent command to Siri while driving on the West gate bridge for instance; Never mind, ‘Hey Mercedes’.
To me, these interfaces are high effort/ high engagement. It doesn’t inspire confidence when moving a 2 ton brick at 100km/h at the same time.
https://youtu.be/Y-_7FUaFClc?si=YnFlTlzjqwC-WKhF
A couple of things. The capacitive solution was to avoid putting in an android system, thinking it just overlays my existing system. No way would I replace the head unit like those in the youtube videos. That's so stupid (ie I totally agree with you). As for it being non touch screen and using the controls, I also totally agree with you when I use car play (which I do most of the time). I can live easily without touch screen. However, I did buy this https://www.ottocast.com/collections...carplay-ai-box and I only plug it in when I have to sit and wait in the car for a period of time. I tend to watch netflix or youtube. Great for that, but touch screen is really needed. The remote that comes with it is hopeless, and they don't integrate into the Mercedes controls well. So it's that reason why I was looking for a touch screen. I manage without it and I do get to enjoy watching movies / TV whilst waiting in the car on my screen.
Last edited by LarrikinAus; Aug 17, 2024 at 05:42 AM.
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No worries. If you buy it, I'd be keen to know how you get on with it. What the install required you to do - did it require re-coding of the NTG5.5?
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I feel like @EleBest has experience with this:
https://youtu.be/M1XGyXRg-qM?si=LDgWFZ5qQI-p7NmX
https://youtu.be/M1XGyXRg-qM?si=LDgWFZ5qQI-p7NmX
edit: reading the YouTube comments it seems he offers a screen replacement + touchpad + MBUX solution. The MBUX Augmented Reality has piqued my interest. Another year plus till my warranty runs out, so maybe worth exploring then for the upgrade.
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@LarrikinAus I was searching for EleBest the other day to point you to them. They are in Singapore and work on RHD vehicles. May be worth reaching out to them for a capacitive solution; seeing how they have found a way to upgrade NTG 5.5 to MBUX graphics.
edit: reading the YouTube comments it seems he offers a screen replacement + touchpad + MBUX solution. The MBUX Augmented Reality has piqued my interest. Another year plus till my warranty runs out, so maybe worth exploring then for the upgrade.
https://youtu.be/2VLBp1YU5rw?si=bGqWCWsO2MKy5Jb1
edit: reading the YouTube comments it seems he offers a screen replacement + touchpad + MBUX solution. The MBUX Augmented Reality has piqued my interest. Another year plus till my warranty runs out, so maybe worth exploring then for the upgrade.
https://youtu.be/2VLBp1YU5rw?si=bGqWCWsO2MKy5Jb1
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