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Old Apr 3, 2025 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by liexpress
The car didn't say anything when the routine didn't work, just like it didn't know anything about that.
I'm (forced to get) used to MB claiming something they can't/don't make it work. How many of us ordered digital headlight and are still waiting for it to be activated, with a fee (did they mention this extra fee when ordering DA4)? To me it's a scam.
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Old Apr 3, 2025 | 10:38 PM
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As I reason, the consensus of the thread is that routines are very narrowly used, and not considered very worthwhile. I am working against my own judgment by saying this thread has run its course.
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Old Apr 3, 2025 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MB2timer
As I reason, the consensus of the thread is that routines are very narrowly used, and not considered very worthwhile. I am working against my own judgment by saying this thread has run its course.
Fair enough.
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Old Apr 3, 2025 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by liexpress
Not many scenarios I can think of. But in winter I created a routine to turn on the seat and steering wheel heating when the outer temperature and internal temperature are below xxF and yyF separately. It worked for a while, then never again. Mentioned this to the mechanic when sending in my car for service, and they said a software update could solve the problem. And it didn't. I'll see if it can turn on the AC for me in summer.
Try deleting the routine and creating it again. You could also change the temp to only look at outside or inside rather than both. I would do only inside since that is the only one that matters from a comfort standpoint. Mine is based on inside temp only and has continued to work.
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Old May 14, 2025 | 12:21 PM
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Someone mentioned routines don't auto start and only start when you press execute? Apparently it does in Europe (time stamp 10:08):

Sadly it seems like usa cars have auto start disabled? Similar to automatic things like closing sunroof when rain sensor detects rain, or hold circulation button to close all windows? Impaired digital light brightness and function. It was because of regulations?
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Old May 14, 2025 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Someone mentioned routines don't auto start and only start when you press execute? Apparently it does in Europe (time stamp 10:08): https://youtu.be/Mj1HUJe3Aw8?si=iECyN8P6d7ou5dyj&t=608

Sadly it seems like usa cars have auto start disabled? Similar to automatic things like closing sunroof when rain sensor detects rain, or hold circulation button to close all windows? Impaired digital light brightness and function. It was because of regulations?

Not correct. They auto start but with acountdown
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Old May 14, 2025 | 01:39 PM
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Right, I think we established that they auto start, but it gives you a few seconds to cancel it, so that results in a delay before the routines actually run. I forgot how many seconds you get to cancel it before it actually goes ahead and runs it.
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Old May 14, 2025 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by regor60
Not correct. They auto start but with acountdown
Thank you, so it is the same globally, From the video it seems like it started instantly, I didn't pay attention to the screen.
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Old May 14, 2025 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
Right, I think we established that they auto start, but it gives you a few seconds to cancel it, so that results in a delay before the routines actually run. I forgot how many seconds you get to cancel it before it actually goes ahead and runs it.
Right indeed, my terrible memory it is, when I saw that video I was reminded about this thread and thought we were talking about having to manually activate certain Routines, certain as in in-car routines while driving, while the other Routines such as set heated seats when remote start was automatic.

That said, that wouldn't had make sense because what is the point then why not just change the setting yourself at that point, so I don't know what I was talking or thinking about.
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Old May 14, 2025 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by regor60
I have a routine to turn on the front camera when speed drops below 10 mph and the notification that the routine is "starting" involves an unnecessary and annoying 5 second or so countdown. Stupid.
The notification is also my big problem with the routines and the reason I disabled the one I had that could trigger immediately on starting the car. I just want my seat ventilation on, I don't need all that.
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Old May 14, 2025 | 09:44 PM
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Based on what's been happening of late with me, I'm guessing there's another type of routine: Monday's at 6PM I leave the house for a chorus rehearsal at the local (Bridgton) Academy. I just started using the AT a couple of weeks ago, having driven my SL there the past couple of months. This past Monday, at 6PM, I started the car and the info screen said: Time to Bridgton Academy 12 minutes. Now that's almost alarming. Who or what else, aside from my personal car and myself, knows that I go to the Bridgton Academy on Mondays. Does it also know that I don't return home until 9PM????
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Old May 14, 2025 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TulsaVic
Based on what's been happening of late with me, I'm guessing there's another type of routine: Monday's at 6PM I leave the house for a chorus rehearsal at the local (Bridgton) Academy. I just started using the AT a couple of weeks ago, having driven my SL there the past couple of months. This past Monday, at 6PM, I started the car and the info screen said: Time to Bridgton Academy 12 minutes. Now that's almost alarming. Who or what else, aside from my personal car and myself, knows that I go to the Bridgton Academy on Mondays. Does it also know that I don't return home until 9PM????
Yes, normal, MB learns your behaviour, if you repeat a certain location or action (such as calling mom) it will ask you if you want to call mom at that time of day.
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Old May 14, 2025 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TulsaVic
Based on what's been happening of late with me, I'm guessing there's another type of routine: Monday's at 6PM I leave the house for a chorus rehearsal at the local (Bridgton) Academy. I just started using the AT a couple of weeks ago, having driven my SL there the past couple of months. This past Monday, at 6PM, I started the car and the info screen said: Time to Bridgton Academy 12 minutes. Now that's almost alarming. Who or what else, aside from my personal car and myself, knows that I go to the Bridgton Academy on Mondays. Does it also know that I don't return home until 9PM????
Yes, that's the Commuter Route and Destination Suggestion feature. It learns your commutes and typical destinations, and then starts automatic silent route guidance if it detects that your heading out on your usual route at a specific time. Smartphones have had this feature for a while. My iPhone suggests where I'm most likely heading and tells me how long it will take the moment it connects to the car's Bluetooth depending on the day and time of day. It's called "Significant Locations". The phone keeps track of where I go, what places I visit when and on which days and then uses that to automatically make route and travel time suggestions. At least with iPhones and MBUX/COMAND, this data stays local on the device instead of being shared with the mothership and potentially sold to advertisers as Google does.

You can turn this off in the settings if you don't like it. It's all explained in the owner's manual. Time to read it and learn about all the features your car has.

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Old May 15, 2025 | 05:44 AM
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I am on the other side. I love routines. I have about 10 of them. All created by me. Including what many have said here - but also navigation to go to work or home at particular times/days etc. Massage after 30 min drive etc. But yes - HATE the 5 second delay. STOOPID. Hey Mercedes take out the 5 second delay.
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Old May 15, 2025 | 10:52 AM
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Routines are a bit limited IMO, but the 5 second delay is not an issue for me. I have around 7 routines and all of them are either time, location, or temperature based. None of those require precision starts to where 5 seconds will matter. If it did, you could change the trigger a bit differently. For example, to start the parking camera at 10mph change the trigger to 15mph or 12mph. May have to experiment. I have my parking camera set to start just before I enter my garage which is baed on entering a geolocation. I had to tinker with the exact radius of the circle to get it to start up at the right time. The seat heat or air comes on based on interior temp. It takes many seconds for all the things to initialize before the routine even starts the 5 second count and I often just turn it on manually. My favorite routine is changing the ambient lught to red at night and multi-color blue/purple during the day. I have that set to a specific time range and 5 seconds doesn't make any bit of difference. I do wish there was a sunrise/sunset with a +/- offset so I don't have to change the times to match the sun manually, but its not too big of a deal. I only change it when I notice it's starting way too early or late. It would also be nice to have the routine change the driver display since I like the sport one at night with the red to match the ambient lights and normal during the day. Not a big deal to change myself though.

My whole point is, tinker with it to overcome the design issues to achieve your desired results. I like the 5 second delay for some things and get why they put it in. However, there are use cases where it would be better to not have it. They should put it as a configuration option per routine so you can decide if its needed and for how long. There are many other things I would like to see before that. Such as the ability to raise the car when at a specific location and speed, open/close the sunblinds and sunroof, adjust the volume of the entertainment based on location and time of day, and change ride modes based on location or road type.
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Old May 15, 2025 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by L1Wolf
Routines are a bit limited IMO, but the 5 second delay is not an issue for me. I have around 7 routines and all of them are either time, location, or temperature based. None of those require precision starts to where 5 seconds will matter. If it did, you could change the trigger a bit differently. For example, to start the parking camera at 10mph change the trigger to 15mph or 12mph. May have to experiment. I have my parking camera set to start just before I enter my garage which is baed on entering a geolocation. I had to tinker with the exact radius of the circle to get it to start up at the right time. The seat heat or air comes on based on interior temp. It takes many seconds for all the things to initialize before the routine even starts the 5 second count and I often just turn it on manually. My favorite routine is changing the ambient lught to red at night and multi-color blue/purple during the day. I have that set to a specific time range and 5 seconds doesn't make any bit of difference. I do wish there was a sunrise/sunset with a +/- offset so I don't have to change the times to match the sun manually, but its not too big of a deal. I only change it when I notice it's starting way too early or late. It would also be nice to have the routine change the driver display since I like the sport one at night with the red to match the ambient lights and normal during the day. Not a big deal to change myself though.

My whole point is, tinker with it to overcome the design issues to achieve your desired results. I like the 5 second delay for some things and get why they put it in. However, there are use cases where it would be better to not have it. They should put it as a configuration option per routine so you can decide if its needed and for how long. There are many other things I would like to see before that. Such as the ability to raise the car when at a specific location and speed, open/close the sunblinds and sunroof, adjust the volume of the entertainment based on location and time of day, and change ride modes based on location or road type.
Making the 5 second delay configurable would the be right approach. Similar to how automations work on my iPhone. I can configure if I want a certain automation to require confirmation before it runs after triggering it. I have the option checked for automations that I don't always want to run just because the trigger met all the conditions, and some type of automations that involve certain devices, specifically secure smart home devices such as smart locks always require confirmation and more importantly unlocking the phone first before they run as they have the potential to give unauthorized people access to my home. For example I have an automation to unlock my house as soon as I enter a geofence, but before it actually unlocks the house, I must unlock the phone (Face ID) and confirm it, so that somebody can't just steal my phone and walk into my house.

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A couple of more thoughts. I'd say at this point Routines is a new feature that isn't quite fully baked and MB should take a few pages out of the smartphone playbooks. For example there's a whole category of routines that one doesn't want to trigger automatically, but instead on demand by tapping a single button on the screen. I believe MBUX doesn't currently support such routines. On my iPhone they are called Shortcuts and can encompass a series of actions combined with control flow and data from apps to perform a series of things with a single tap of a button. For example I have one that I can tap, which then lets me pick an upcoming calendar appointment, then extracts the address from the location and lets me send it to the car, text it to somebody etc. Instead of opening several apps and perform actions within them, it's a couple of taps and no apps to open. A cool use case for this in my car would be a button to tap to put my car into canyon carving mode. It would put it in Race mode, transmission in M, ESP in Sport and maybe pull up the AMG Performance screen in the center and may even change my instrument cluster to show more performance related information and a similar button that puts it all back to normal relaxed driving setup. There are lots of possibilities, but they need to put some more thought into this, IMHO.
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Is it possible to automatically turn on massage after entering the vehicle with Routines?
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Is it possible to automatically turn on massage after entering the vehicle with Routines?
Yes, you can have massage turn on based on any available trigger such as speed, time, location, etc. There is no trigger for entering or starting but you can set it to trigger any time of day and it will automatically start every time you get in and start the car.
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Old May 17, 2025 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by L1Wolf
Yes, you can have massage turn on based on any available trigger such as speed, time, location, etc. There is no trigger for entering or starting but you can set it to trigger any time of day and it will automatically start every time you get in and start the car.
I see, thank you, same for seat kinetics?
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Has anyone actually had a Routine created automatically (by AI)? I have owned for almost a year - and all my routines are created by me
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Has anyone actually had a Routine created automatically (by AI)? I have owned for almost a year - and all my routines are created by me
nope, is there an option?
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I don't see the "Routines" feature in my car. Do you have to be logged in to your profile in order for it to appear?
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I don't see the "Routines" feature in my car. Do you have to be logged in to your profile in order for it to appear?
I would assume you do since different profiles have their own set of routines.
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Originally Posted by jumpman726
I don't see the "Routines" feature in my car. Do you have to be logged in to your profile in order for it to appear?
You could try that but it should be there shown like an app on the screen.
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