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Old Sep 20, 2025 | 09:18 PM
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Do the 2026 E53 wagons come with back seat and back windows with privacy glass (tinted) or are all windows clearr?
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Old Sep 20, 2025 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by yossarian1
Do the 2026 E53 wagons come with back seat and back windows with privacy glass (tinted) or are all windows clearr?
As far as I know, tinted windows are not an available option for Mercedes imports into the US.
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Old Sep 21, 2025 | 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Hicksra
As far as I know, tinted windows are not an available option for Mercedes imports into the US.
but they do for SUV’s, right?
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Old Sep 21, 2025 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by yossarian1
but they do for SUV’s, right?
this seems to be true across all manufacturers for vehicles sold in the United States. I have always wondered if it’s some weird regulatory thing. For some reason, sport utility vehicles often come with the side, rear windows, and back windows further tinted from the factory. However, sedans do not seem to ever have this. Am I wrong?
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Old Sep 21, 2025 | 08:59 AM
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I think MB SUVs built in the USA have rear tinted windows. At least my GLS did. My $0.02.
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Old Sep 21, 2025 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by E53DadWagon
this seems to be true across all manufacturers for vehicles sold in the United States. I have always wondered if it’s some weird regulatory thing. For some reason, sport utility vehicles often come with the side, rear windows, and back windows further tinted from the factory. However, sedans do not seem to ever have this. Am I wrong?
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) sets federal standards for window tinting, requiring a minimum light transmittance of 70% for front windows.

There are no specific federal laws that set limits on car side window tint darkness; instead, each state establishes its own regulations regarding visible light transmission (VLT) and reflectivity.

Some states allow darker tints on rear windows, while others have strict limits on side windows. Window Tint Laws By State: 2024 Legal Window Tint Percentages

IMO Manufacturers don't really know in what state the retail sale will be so they stick with the Federal regulation and leave tinting up to the selling dealer.
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Old Sep 21, 2025 | 09:53 AM
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My E450 Build sheet lists option U50 - Omission of Dark Tinted Windows - US Regulatory Requirement.
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Old Sep 21, 2025 | 10:54 AM
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My armchair, Google researching indicates what I thought. The federal regulations are different for Light trucks than they are for passenger vehicles. That is why there is privacy glass on SUVs behind the driver and passenger windows, but the same does not occur for cars, including station wagons.
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Old Sep 21, 2025 | 12:32 PM
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SUVs are considered MPVs or multipurpose vehicles and have different requirements versus others. Tinted glasses are allowed on these. You’ll see MPV on the VIN label for these, PC for others.

One day the US regulations will catch up to the rest of the world.
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Old Sep 21, 2025 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by wdimagineer
SUVs are considered MPVs or multipurpose vehicles and have different requirements versus others. Tinted glasses are allowed on these. You’ll see MPV on the VIN label for these, PC for others.

One day the US regulations will catch up to the rest of the world.
maddening and silly.
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Old Sep 21, 2025 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by E53DadWagon
My armchair, Google researching indicates what I thought. The federal regulations are different for Light trucks than they are for passenger vehicles. That is why there is privacy glass on SUVs behind the driver and passenger windows, but the same does not occur for cars, including station wagons.
A wagon to me, is as utilitarian as a GLC or GLE SUV, and denying privacy class to the E-wagon, while happily allowing that in the GLC, is just regulations by un-elected bureaucrats, running amok, with nobody to check their purpose or need.
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Old Sep 21, 2025 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Roweraay
A wagon to me, is as utilitarian as a GLC or GLE SUV, and denying privacy class to the E-wagon, while happily allowing that in the GLC, is just regulations by un-elected bureaucrats, running amok, with nobody to check their purpose or need.
agree with all of this except I think elected bureaucrats can be just as bad lol.
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Old Sep 21, 2025 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by E53DadWagon
agree with all of this except I think elected bureaucrats can be just as bad lol.
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Old Sep 22, 2025 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Roweraay
A wagon to me, is as utilitarian as a GLC or GLE SUV, and denying privacy class to the E-wagon, while happily allowing that in the GLC, is just regulations by un-elected bureaucrats, running amok, with nobody to check their purpose or need.
Your privacy has not been denied. You are free to tint the windows. The only restrictions are on the VLT %, reflectivity and windshield tint below the AS-1 line.
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Old Sep 22, 2025 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ua549
Your privacy has not been denied. You are free to tint the windows. The only restrictions are on the VLT %, reflectivity and windshield tint below the AS-1 line.
No, my privacy has been denied. In NC, SUV's and trucks do not have a tint limit on back windows and rear side windows. "Passenger" vehicles are limited to 35%. So yes, my privacy has been denied. Furthermore, as stated above, what makes the GLC more of a "delivery" vehicle than a wagon? It's an absurd law and reasoning for MB not to tint the back windows of the E53 wagon.

And if you say that I can tint my windows to anything I want despite the law, I am going to say that your response to privacy being denied is that I should break the law. All I am saying is that I just don't want everybody to see what is in the back of my vehicle when moving things or say when I am holiday shopping and have a bunch of gifts in the back.

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Old Sep 22, 2025 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by yossarian1
No, my privacy has been denied. In NC, SUV's and trucks do not have a tint limit on back windows and rear side windows. "Passenger" vehicles are limited to 35%. So yes, my privacy has been denied. Furthermore, as stated above, what makes the GLC more of a "delivery" vehicle than a wagon? It's an absurd law and reasoning for MB not to tint the back windows of the E53 wagon.

And if you say that I can tint my windows to anything I want despite the law, I am going to say that your response to privacy being denied is that I should break the law. All I am saying is that I just don't want everybody to see what is in the back of my vehicle when moving things or say when I am holiday shopping and have a bunch of gifts in the back.
A vehicle is either a car or a truck as denoted on the required door jamb sticker. You chose to purchase a car, not a truck. You can tint your windows to the degree allowed by law in whatever jurisdiction you choose to live. To ease your paranoia about someone seeing "your stuff", use a cover or roller shades, ... I have a roller cover for when I have high value items to transport. You can apply for an exemption from the NY law. https://dmv.ny.gov/forms/mv80w.pdf
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Old Sep 22, 2025 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ua549
Your privacy has not been denied. You are free to tint the windows. The only restrictions are on the VLT %, reflectivity and windshield tint below the AS-1 line.
I am not referring to post-sale tinkering via the aftermarket. I was talking about what comes from the factory, and as allowed by the ever-creeping "regulations". Calling a similar bodied GLE or GLC as a "truck" and calling an equally passenger and cargo friendly vehicle like the E-wagon as a "passenger car", with differing rules based on that classification difference, is an example of "regulations" running amok. As originally posted.
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Old Sep 22, 2025 | 10:30 AM
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They're not "trucks". They are multi-purpose vehicles (MPVs) as defined by standards, which govern size, weight, exterior dimensions, and other specifications. It's amusing. A friend has a Volvo V60 and V90CC, previously a regular V90. The V60 is classified as a passenger car. The V90 was, too. The V90CC, due to its slight increase in ground clearance that allows for occasional off-road usage, is actually considered (and labeled) an MPV.

The standard E wagon does not meet the requirements to be an MPV, so no factory window darkening. The All Terrain should, so it's an intentional product decision by MB to not classify it as such, given its similar capabilities, dimensions, and performance to the V90 Cross Country.

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Originally Posted by ua549
You chose to purchase a car, not a truck.
It is this exact same classification silliness that should be consigned to the dustbin of canceled regulations. Bureaucrats running amok, and justifying their jobs with ever-creeping introductions of such "regulations".

Calling a GLC as a "truck" and calling an All-Terrain Wagon as a "passenger car", when both of these are exactly the same, form and function wise, and then creating differentiated rules based on the classification difference.
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Old Sep 22, 2025 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Roweraay
I am not referring to post-sale tinkering via the aftermarket. I was talking about what comes from the factory, and as allowed by the ever-creeping "regulations". Calling a similar bodied GLE or GLC as a "truck" and calling an equally passenger and cargo friendly vehicle like the E-wagon as a "passenger car", with differing rules based on that classification difference, is an example of "regulations" running amok. As originally posted.
IMO an E class wagon an E class SUV are not similar vehicles. One is a car while the other is a truck. The SUV has a gross vehicle weight restriction (GVWR) that is approximately 1,000 pounds (18%) more than the wagon. There are safety reasons for tint restrictions. They are not regulations run amok.
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Old Sep 22, 2025 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ua549
IMO an E class wagon an E class SUV are not similar vehicles. One is a car while the other is a truck. The SUV has a gross vehicle weight restriction (GVWR) that is approximately 1,000 pounds (18%) more than the wagon. There are safety reasons for tint restrictions. They are not regulations run amok.
Please note that the payload of the All-Terrain wagon is around 1500 lbs (for comparison, I believe the Honda Accord's and Subaru Outback's payload is around 850lbs). Exactly the same as the GLE and the GLC, give or take a few pounds. The All-Terrain wagon can tow around 4500lbs. The GLC can tow 3500lbs.

The All-Terrain wagon weighs in at 4575lbs. The GLC weighs in at 4193 lbs. The 2024 GLE450 (which I owned), weighs in around 400lbs more than the All-Terrain. These are all in the same ballpark.

The car and "truck" classification is as silly as it gets. Probably greased well by the Big-3, when they sold passenger vehicles like Escalades, Suburbans, Tahoes and Expeditions (built essentially on pickup truck platforms), while getting away with worse emissions, just because these passenger vehicles were classified as "trucks". And from then on, the "regulations" started ballooning based on the classifications. The unibody based GLC or GLE are as non-truckish as you can get.
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Old Sep 22, 2025 | 01:18 PM
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I'm comparing an All Terrain wagon to an GLE 350. The allowable weight difference is about 1,000 pounds. The GLE 350 can tow 7,500 pounds. That is 2,000 pounds more than the All Terrain wagon.
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Old Sep 22, 2025 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ua549
I'm comparing an All Terrain wagon to an GLE 350. The allowable weight difference is about 1,000 pounds. The GLE 350 can tow 7,500 pounds. That is 2,000 pounds more than the All Terrain wagon.
Yeah, but the GLC also enjoys the "truck" status. So where does that rate in your logic, vis-a-vis the All-Terrain wagon ? Lighter than the wagon, weaker in towing than the wagon, weaker payload capacity, and comparable ground clearance that's within less than an inch of each other. And yet, the GLC, via the regulatory loophole, enjoys aspects that are unavailable to the "passenger car" All-Terrain.

PS: When I owned the 2024 GLE450, I found the "450" drivetrain, barely adequate for the GLE. The 4-cylinder "350" drivetrain is a sorry mess for such a big vehicle. BMW does not subject their X5s to a non-6-cyl drivetrain, and not sure why MB does that in the GLE.
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Originally Posted by Roweraay
Yeah, but the GLC also enjoys the "truck" status. So where does that rate in your logic, vis-a-vis the All-Terrain wagon ? Lighter than the wagon, weaker in towing than the wagon, weaker payload capacity, and comparable ground clearance that's within less than an inch of each other. And yet, the GLC, via the regulatory loophole, enjoys aspects that are unavailable to the "passenger car" All-Terrain.

PS: When I owned the 2024 GLE450, I found the "450" drivetrain, barely adequate for the GLE. The 4-cylinder "350" drivetrain is a sorry mess for such a big vehicle. BMW does not subject their X5s to a non-6-cyl drivetrain, and not sure why MB does that in the GLE.
This is incorrect. The GLC is actually certified as a passenger car, not a MPV/truck.


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Old Sep 22, 2025 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by wdimagineer
This is incorrect. The GLC is actually certified as a passenger car, not a MPV/truck.

Got it. If the GLC is classified as a "passenger car", while the GLE is classified as a "multipurpose vehicle", clearly it is a rigging of the system, in favor of the Big-3, when they orchestrated these classifications by influencing the regulators. They wanted their big money-makers like the Escalade, the Suburbans, the Expeditions and the Tahoes, to not have to meet stringent emissions standards that the passenger cars have to meet, and the classifications reflect those.

Of course they wanted the Honda CRVs, the Toyota RAV4s, the Mazda CX5s, the GLCs etc to all be subjected to the stringent emissions standards of "passenger cars" since these were competition for them, and the Big-3 never sold in this marketspace, till very recently.
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