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Old Sep 24, 2025 | 09:36 AM
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I love the soft close doors. They save me from getting out and walking around to a passenger door it when guests, usually children, don't close it all the way. I have not had any maintenance issues with them.
I have the soft close doors on my W214 E53. But frankly, the feature is seldom used since unlike my EQS SUV the W214 doors easily close. The EQS SUV could have benefited from soft close doors.
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Old Sep 24, 2025 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ua549
I love the soft close doors. They save me from getting out and walking around to a passenger door it when guests, usually children, don't close it all the way. I have not had any maintenance issues with them.
yah, I love my soft close doors too. I just wish others getting in/out of my car would learn how to close them w/o slamming....
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Old Sep 24, 2025 | 10:50 AM
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BMW has the right approach. One can open and close doors from the digital key app.
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Old Sep 24, 2025 | 01:50 PM
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BMW has the right approach. One can open and close doors from the digital key app.
this is even dumber somehow
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Old Sep 24, 2025 | 02:44 PM
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Don't you ever open the door for someone and wish that you didn't have to get out of the car to do so?
I encounter that situation almost daily when I need to open the rear door as a courtesy for a guest.
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Old Sep 24, 2025 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ua549
Don't you ever open the door for someone and wish that you didn't have to get out of the car to do so?
I encounter that situation almost daily when I need to open the rear door as a courtesy for a guest.
literally never
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Old Sep 24, 2025 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by E53DadWagon
literally never
Exactly right according to common courtesy, etiquette, manners, politeness, and chivalry.
Part of the process of the courtesy of opening a door for someone, is to put in the effort to get to the door as they arrive at the door, so you can hold it open for them, and be there to steady them or assist if need be.
How far have we strayed from those type of niceties?
Is it just a shadow of the past now?
If so, are we better off without it?
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Old Sep 24, 2025 | 03:46 PM
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It must be the difference between Southern hospitality and Northern insouciance.
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I tend to agree that it's pointless (the BMW solution). I remember years ago when my smug neighbor took delivery of one of the first Tesla Model X sold in Germany. He was showing off the "falcon wing" doors when they failed to recognize the sprinkler pipes and concrete beam above his parking slot. The glass shattered, and there was a huge dent in the sheet metal. He was so embarrassed. I secretly giggled. I get the convenience factor, but I don't trust the tech enough not to misjudge something and damage the car.
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Old Sep 24, 2025 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ua549
I love the soft close doors. They save me from getting out and walking around to a passenger door it when guests, usually children, don't close it all the way. I have not had any maintenance issues with them.
What has soft close doors got to do with the pop-out handles ? I had the soft-close doors in my 2022 E450 All-Terrain, which did not have the pop-out situation, and it worked like a charm. I have the soft-close in the 2025 All-Terrain too.

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Old Sep 25, 2025 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Roweraay
What has soft close doors got to do with the pop-out handles ? I had the soft-close doors in my 2022 E450 All-Terrain, which did not have the pop-out situation, and it worked like a charm. I have the soft-close in the 2025 All-Terrain too.
Guess they were trying to compare how more things mean more things might potentially break.
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Old Sep 25, 2025 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Roweraay
What has soft close doors got to do with the pop-out handles ? I had the soft-close doors in my 2022 E450 All-Terrain, which did not have the pop-out situation, and it worked like a charm. I have the soft-close in the 2025 All-Terrain too.
Soft close doors introduced into the topic in post 23 by Hicksra.
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Old Sep 25, 2025 | 03:44 PM
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I keep thinking there’s a trick to get them to pop out that I don’t know. It’s great when they proactively present when you walk to the car, but on the times they don’t I’ve taken to just pushing the unlock button on the remote because it takes about a dozen swipes to get them to pop out otherwise.
you DO NOT have to swipe them to open the door. that lie was perpetuated by numerous car reviews. all you have to do is touch the indent just like with all previous entry systems on numerous car manufacturers [they probably source the same vendor anyway] and it opens. did on my gle 450 and gls43 and audi s3, and s5 sportback. same on the Infiniti ex 35 and ex 60 I leased and before that the lexus is 350. its exactly the same. touch the button to lock, touch the button to unlock. if the door handles have popped out then you just pull the door. this has NEVER failed on my car.
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Old Sep 25, 2025 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by digital_b
you DO NOT have to swipe them to open the door. that lie was perpetuated by numerous car reviews. all you have to do is touch the indent just like with all previous entry systems on numerous car manufacturers [they probably source the same vendor anyway] and it opens. did on my gle 450 and gls43 and audi s3, and s5 sportback. same on the Infiniti ex 35 and ex 60 I leased and before that the lexus is 350. its exactly the same. touch the button to lock, touch the button to unlock. if the door handles have popped out then you just pull the door. this has NEVER failed on my car.
So one touch and it pops out 100% chance of the time? That's the ticket then!
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Old Sep 25, 2025 | 09:39 PM
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Perhaps one easy fix without having to replace anything for existing customers that want to is to program it to stay extended forever?
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Old Sep 25, 2025 | 10:05 PM
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They work with a swipe or a touch on the dimple a.k.a. the button. It's more reliable pressing the button than swiping, but the swipe works too. My default is to use the button to lock the car since the key fob is in my pocket and it's always unlocked automatically as I approach. My guess for owners having issues is that multiple keys are confusing the car or they are doing something else that is confusing the car. It's hard to say without seeing what's happening. Some may be over exaggerating the issues as well. Maybe some have defective cars. Who knows. It's odd that some of us have little or no issues while others are quite frustrated. I'm not using the digital key and only have one physical key when using the car. I have no issues and I happen to like the retracting handles even if they are unnecessary. I think they are cool. I also like the soft closing doors, the touch screen, the super screen, the ambient lights, and the leather accent panels over hard wood. Maybe I'm not refined enough to dislike these things. There is not much I don't like about this car. The double visor is truly missed and it would be nice to have a button or touch screen option to drop the rear seat backs from inside the car rather than only in the trunk. The missing ILS+ is criminal, but that is more the stupid US regulations rather than MB. I have driven just over 23K miles on this platform with two different cars and I'm still glad I bought it. I just hope it lasts 200K and at least 15 years with minimal issues. One year and 17K down, 14 years and 183K to go.

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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Perhaps one easy fix without having to replace anything for existing customers that want to is to program it to stay extended forever?
Unlike say the W213's grab-handles, that stay relatively tucked in, the W214's retractable handles project out of the body, when extended. That could have unintended consequences like wind noise and buffeting etc. Bottomline, the W214 is designed to stay flush, except when it needs to extend out.......and thus rigging things for the handles to stay extended, may not be the brightest of ideas
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Recently, a Tesla caught on fire, and 3 people burned to death inside, because the retractable handles didn’t work.
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Originally Posted by MB2timer
Recently, a Tesla caught on fire, and 3 people burned to death inside, because the retractable handles didn’t work.
Tesla driver and two kids burned alive because rescuers can't open electronic doors: reports


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Recently, a Tesla caught on fire, and 3 people burned to death inside, because the retractable handles didn’t work.
Is that the real reason? Link to the story with details would be helpful. The occupants couldn't open the doors from inside. The windows couldn't be broken? I don't know about Tesla, but the MB handles are supposed to force out in an accident to facilitate rescue. Even without retractable handles locked doors would prevent a person from opening the door from outside. I suspect there is more to this story than 3 people died because retractable handles failed.
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Originally Posted by L1Wolf
Is that the real reason? Link to the story with details would be helpful. The occupants couldn't open the doors from inside. The windows couldn't be broken? I don't know about Tesla, but the MB handles are supposed to force out in an accident to facilitate rescue. Even without retractable handles locked doors would prevent a person from opening the door from outside. I suspect there is more to this story than 3 people died because retractable handles failed.
See post above yours.
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Old Sep 26, 2025 | 03:24 PM
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I saw this after my post. I read the article and it doesn't say they died because the retractable handles didn't work. It's possible they contributed, but even that is not clear. The person trying to save them said the car was too hot to even touch and went to the other side and then couldn't open the door. They likely didn't know how to open a Tesla unless he has been in one. They may have been fully operational. In any case, if the car was that hot already the occupants were likely dead already or would have died even if he got the doors open. The same is true with more traditional handles. If they don't automatically unlock the doors won't open. I'm not saying the retractable handles don't create another obstacle, but to say they died because the handles didn't retract is a stretch based on the limited facts in this article.

In a MB, and I hope all cars, the doors should unlock in an accident. That requires electricity since the locks operate electronically. The handles should retract when that happens. If any part of that fails, you cannot open the door from the outside. They guy had a fire extinguisher. He could have smashed a window to help. The fire was likely too hot to do that.
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Yes, because Lithium Ion fires burn very hot, and very quickly. Almost explosively.
It can happen. It has happened.
It will likely happen again.
The retractable electronic handles certainly didn’t help.
Electronic upgrades to formerly mechanical controls have their advantages.
That’s until the chips are down, and you need a mechanism to work properly, and without any delay.
That to my mind is one of the biggest advantages to mechanical mechanisms.

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Yes, because Lithium Ion fires burn very hot, and very quickly. Almost explosively.
It can happen. It has happened.
It will likely happen again.
The retractable electronic handle ps certainly didn’t help.
Electronic upgrades to formerly mechanical controls have their advantages.
That’s until the chips are down, and you need a mechanism to work properly, and without any delay.
That to my mind is one of the biggest advantages to mechanical mechanisms.
Your probably right and the hot fire from the Lithium Ion batteries are likely more to blame than the handles. Mechanical may be better in some cases but I don't think they would be in this situation. If you lock your mechanical door locks when driving and have an accident, they remain locked unless you unlock them. If you are incapacitated then you cannot unlock them and a rescuer would not be able to open the doors. With electronic door locks the car can be designed to unlock automatically when in an accident. In the W214 and likely many other MBs the doors automatically unlock after an accident and the side windows are lowered. Can't do that with mechanical only controls. Some may say that the automatic unlocking could fail and are not 100% reliable. They are correct but mechanical only locks will not automatically unlock 100% of the time. Which is better.
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By the way, the Tesla door handles work very differently than a MB retractable handle. On the Tesla, a motor does not push them out. You have to push the handle in on one side to push the other side out like a lever. Then you can pull the side that is out or push in further to open the door. I would call them hidden and not actually retractable but that's just semantics. If you don't own a Tesla or haven't been in one, it can be very confusing how to open the door even when it's unlocked. Mercedes on the other hand has handles that automatically retract flush, but will present themselves when the car is unlocked. It's less confusing since when out, they look and operate like a regular door handle. The two are very different.

Here's what Gemini has the say about this.

The most critical difference lies in the backup safety mechanism and physical intuition.
  • Mercedes: Uses electric motors to extend the handle for aesthetics and access. Once extended, pulling it often incorporates a direct mechanical or a highly intuitive electronic/mechanical override into the handle itself (the pull-past-a-pressure-point mechanism) to ensure the door can still be opened quickly in an emergency.
  • Tesla (Model 3/Y): The external handle design is simpler and does not use a motor to extend. Crucially, the door latch operation is almost entirely electronic, with the backup mechanical releases (especially the interior ones) being separate, hidden, and non-intuitive, which has led to greater safety scrutiny.
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