The E450 drivetrain makes way MORE power than advertised

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Oct 26, 2025 | 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by geektoad

Sure, identical...except for the fact that the 214s don't have an electric supercharger, but rather a hybrid ISG (integrated start-generator) between the engine and transmission.

BOTH the X213, AND the X214, have a mild-hybrid ISG (Integrated Starter Generator), but NO Supercharger. In the X214, they have tweaked things a bit, and they call the ISG, "Gen.2".

Oct 26, 2025 | 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Roweraay

BOTH the X213, AND the X214, have a mild-hybrid ISG (Integrated Starter Generator), but NO Supercharger. In the X214, they have tweaked things a bit, and they call the ISG, "Gen.2".

Then what exactly are you trying to correct me on...all i said was that the 214 doesn't use the electric supercharger that the other guy claimed they did. I didn't say anything about what 213s used or didn't use.

Oct 26, 2025 | 01:08 PM

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Just because you say so means nothing. You need to provide proof for your claims.

Oct 26, 2025 | 01:09 PM

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Here's the crop from my 2022 E450 All-Terrain Wagon's window sticker:

Here's the crop from my 2024 E450 All-Terrain's window sticker:

Oct 26, 2025 | 01:13 PM

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Ok, got you. I misunderstood. Yes, neither the 213 (2021+ model year onwards), nor the 214 (2024+ model year) onwards, specifically pertaining to the E450, use any kind of supercharger.

The 213 of course is divided into "older" and "newer" versions. The "Older" one had a V6 engine with Bi-turbos. The "newer" version of the 213s (2021+ model year onwards) had the Inline-6 single-Turbo engine, with the 48V mild hybrid system, like with the 214s.

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Oct 26, 2025 | 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Roweraay

The below link from Motortrend, and the excerpt below, seem to mirror my thinking:
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...review-arrival

Thanks for posting. Didn't realize there were cup holders in the rear arm rest until I read the article. Kinda makes me wish a picked Sonoran Brown for my AT also.

Oct 26, 2025 | 01:30 PM

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Thanks for posting. Didn't realize there were cup holders in the rear arm rest until I read the article. Kinda makes me wish a picked Sonoran Brown for my AT also.

Here's my Sonoran Brown All-Terrain, when I was heading out on a trip the next day (hence the roof cross-bars):