Rattle at seatbelt shoulder adjustment




anyone else experience this? It’s bad enough that I will take to dealer just curious if others have experienced the same.








anyone else experience this? It’s bad enough that I will take to dealer just curious if others have experienced the same.
anyone else experience this? It’s bad enough that I will take to dealer just curious if others have experienced the same.
In one Mercedes, the audio speaker would randomly crackle in the frequency range of the human voice. That was multiple trips to the dealer to fix. At one point, the service advisor told me, "To fix it, Mercedes would need to redesign the doors." A $25,000 Toyota never has that problem, but a Mercedes Burmester sound system doesn't work with Mercedes doors. When my service advisor is stumped by a problem and gives me nonsensical answer like that, I just look at them for a few seconds like they are speaking a foreign language that I don't comprehend. I don't acknowledge the attempt at giving up. I then chat more with them amicably on other things Mercedes. Topics like "I have to agree with that customer that the B service on an 8-cylinder AMG is crazy expensive. Do you have any discounts on the six-cylinder E53 service?" are good for small talk.
When it comes to software issues in the control modules and MBUX, the service advisors will have seen so many of those that they will instantly know what the problem is and if there is a fix. The car is so smart now, that it even tells the advisor what the problem is.
For things like the seatbelt rattle, it is possible that only 500 cars in the US have that problem and the advisor will not know what it is. In that case, confident persistence is required on the owner's part. Once it has gone back a few times and they haven't succeeded in making you give up, they will assign it to a technician who is great at diagnosing problems. They may have the technician come out and speak with you directly. When you get to this point, it seems like the problem will never go away. Thoughts like, "this is the last Mercedes I will ever buy," start to come into your head more frequently. You start fantasizing about selling the car at a steep loss just to be rid of the seatbelt resonance that grates the core of your being. This is the point to hang on. Your problem is almost solved. Between the dealership's top technician, engineers in Germany and owners posting on the forums someone eventually gets a solution.
In this generation of Mercedes E-Class we have the turn signal indicators in the driver display hidden by the steering wheel. While that would take a software engineer about 30 minutes to fix, I am expecting to never see the turn signal indicators for the ownership lifetime. Sometimes Mercedes makes design choices seemingly made by a sleep deprived high school student who spent two minutes on the homework assignment. But that's just part of the experience. There are of course, many points of technical excellence which is why we sometimes buy Mercedes.
Last edited by Mercuccio; Nov 26, 2025 at 01:45 AM.
Trending Topics
Adjust your driving position or wheel position to see the turn signal indicators or any other portion of the driver's display.
I've had much better service and quality experiences with each of my MB cars than any of the 4 BMWs I've owned. Still BMW is better than many of it's competitors.
BMW has excellent performance when it isn't broken. My 540ix (G30) was in the shop for repair every month for the year that I owned it. In other words BMW = bring mechanic with.
Now that BMW has gone vegan and only offers two tone leather seats with grey sections in the 5 series I won't be buying another one.
The Best of Mercedes & AMG

Adjust your driving position or wheel position to see the turn signal indicators or any other portion of the driver's display..
Whether or not to recline or sit upright is an ongoing debate with no right answer. I prefer the upright position. I am used to sitting upright. It feels weird to me to recline. It also gives more legroom for back seat passengers, and it positions the seat belt better for crash protection. I'll just leave the seat upright and not see the turn signal indicators. I was trained to sit upright to feel yaw better through the back, but I'm not sure I buy that we feel that much yaw through the back. I bet we sense yaw more through the inner ear. Even when reclined we tend to have our heads straight, so the inner ear should work just as well reclined or straight.
BMW has excellent performance when it isn't broken. My 540ix (G30) was in the shop for repair every month for the year that I owned it. In other words BMW = bring mechanic with.
.
A G30 540ix being that bad is starting to scare me. Service at my local BMW and Mercedes dealers have both been good. It is much easier to get a loaner car at the Mercedes dealers than at the BMW dealer. I can also schedule service quicker at the Mercedes dealers.
I'm still waiting for a car with the reliability of a Lexus and the performance of a BMW.
Whether or not to recline or sit upright is an ongoing debate with no right answer. I prefer the upright position. I am used to sitting upright. It feels weird to me to recline. It also gives more legroom for back seat passengers, and it positions the seat belt better for crash protection. I'll just leave the seat upright and not see the turn signal indicators. I was trained to sit upright to feel yaw better through the back, but I'm not sure I buy that we feel that much yaw through the back. I bet we sense yaw more through the inner ear. Even when reclined we tend to have our heads straight, so the inner ear should work just as well reclined or straight.
Adjust your driving position or wheel position to see the turn signal indicators or any other portion of the driver's display.
...
You can easily see all notifications on the driver display.
...
I can imagine that there is some software challenge getting Atmos from CarPlay to work with the Mercedes system. There is no software challenge moving where the driver display indicators appear on an LCD screen.
Arms Out Driving Position
I typically sit a bit further back to have my legs and arms at 170°. Depending on the vehicle, I have to raise the rear portion of the seat that makes my body angle more than the 90° shown in the diagram.




the seatbelt adjuster rattles and it’s annoying
the dash turn signal indicators are in a dumb location that is hard to see unless you have xray vision and can see through the steering wheel
That said, I still bought another W214 because I know when I turn on my turn signals, and the car shuts them off automatically 99% of the time. I've decided I can live with the the 1%.
That said, I still bought another W214 because I know when I turn on my turn signals, and the car shuts them off automatically 99% of the time. I've decided I can live with the the 1%.
I'm 6' tall and the turn signal indicators are right in the middle of the open space above the hub and top of the steering wheel on my W213. If I lower the steering wheel I can see the indicators above the top of the wheel. I did notice that if I moved my seat closer to the wheel it could hide the indicators. That being said, I drive with the seat as far back as possible. I sat on a 2" cushion and could still see the indicators.
FWIW my 6'4" neighbor has a W214 and he said that he can also see the indicators with the seat all the way back and all the way down.
Last edited by ua549; Dec 16, 2025 at 02:39 PM.









