I have an extra Snap-On diagnostic scanner for sale, with cables & software for Mercedes through 2003. Despite claims to the contrary, the older "OBD-1" LH and HFM injection systems do have a lot of data available, including live data (engine running, or driving), and live actuator tests. This kit will also work on newer MB models with ME injection... although if you only have ME cars (most 1997-up), there are cheaper solutions available such as Carsoft. (Please note that Carsoft is entirely useless for models with LH or HFM injection - it will only show blink codes, if that. I tried it - trust me, it's awful on LH or HFM cars.) The Snap-On kit will only communicate with the major vehicle systems, so an impulse counter (LED blinker box) type reader is still required for sub-systems (central locking, ACC, etc) and also ABS/ASR. But for most 1992-1996 Mercedes with either LH or HFM injection, this is an awesome setup.

Please see the attached PDF file which shows exactly what live data paramaters are available for LH & HFM. For each of these systems, the scanner will also communicate digitally. This means: (1) you don't have to wait for 30 seconds to read code #30 from an impulse counter (and another 30 + 8 to clear it afterwards!), and (2) the scanner will show the same multi-digit code that the dealership's Star SDS/DAS or HHT would display. See the attached screen shot... an impulse counter shows "code #2", which can mean 6 different things. The digital scanner would show (for example) "code #008", which narrows the options considerably. The scanner also does actuator tests, version coding, and adaptation. On newer models, it will also communicate with the computer modules for the transmission, airbag, climate control, ME injection through v2.8, SIM4 injection, and electronic diesel injection (to '99).

I also will include (if you want it) a complete DTC reference guide for the W124 (LH & HFM) and W140 (LH / V8 only), covering 1992-1995, so you can easily decipher the codes without digging through the WIS. And, I'll throw in a copy of the EPC and WIS if you don't already have it. The kit includes a hard-shell carry case, with documentation & manuals in PDF format on a CD. The system is fully configurable so it can work with BMW, VW, Audi, domestic, and Asian imports as well. It's also updateable for Mercedes support through 2007 models (requires buying updated software from Snap-On... but if your car is that new, it's probably under warranty anyway!).

In case you were wondering, this is the same scanner that I currently have and plan to keep using - I'm selling an extra setup. So no, I'm not ditching a tool I didn't like!


Kit for Mercedes only: $500
Kit for Mercedes, BMW, VW, and Audi: $700 (shown in photos)
Kit for Euro, Domestic, and Asian: Email me for details & price.


The photos below show the Euro kit with for MB, BMW, and VW/Audi. More details, and photos, are available - please email me directly with any questions you have!

 

not trying 2 low ball u but will u take 100

 

LOL! $100? Um, nope. The Mercedes kit alone cost about $1695 new a few years ago, and nowadays you'd have a hard time finding all the same items for under $500. And if you did, they wouldn't include the WIS & EPC, and very likely wouldn't include the Snap-On Mercedes Vehicle Communication manual either. Trust me, I've been looking for this stuff for the past 8 months. Plus, my setup is guaranteed 100% working. Oh, and btw, the older Mercedes software (1999 or 2001) has much less functionality! So be careful if you're looking at someone else's kit...

Please see the attached PDF file for more information about the coverage & capabilities of the Mercedes software... I forgot to add that before.

 

thats not a lowball, thats an insult.

 

I have a 1999 E300D and 1999 S500 Grand Edition. Given your discussion, I assume the S500 has ME injection, not a LH or HFM system. So, will the kit "read" both cars' computers? Will an impulse counter be necessary to handle checking the cars' sub systems? Lastly, do you have DTC reference guides for both vehicles?
Thanks,

 

Hello Ed,

1) Yes, your 1999 S500 does have ME injection. The 1999 E300D has electronic controls for the diesel injection. The scanner will communicate with both of these injection systems. Both cars also have 722.6 electronic transmissions, and the scanner will talk to the tranny control module as well. Since I don't have access to any vehicles with those systems, I can't tell you exactly what data is available, but I would expect it to be equal or more than is available for the older LH systems. I can send you a copy of the Snap-On Mercedes manual if you'd like to read through it for more details.

2) An impulse counter will likely be required to talk to the sub-systems on these cars. However, I'm not sure exactly what systems that would include... I have never done a detailed investigation into either of those models. On the older 140, this would include things like the central locking, pneumatics, convenience systems, etc... stuff that's not related to the powertrain. For the late 140, and 210, I don't know what specific systems need the impulse counter.

3) The DTC reference guides for the 124 and early 140 are documents I created myself, from the WIS. I find it easier to have the WIS information consolidated into a single document, but it's not necessary. You can get all the information for both your cars from the WIS (which I will include for free if you want it). If you're not familiar with the WIS, click here for more information. I can send you a sample reference guide that I created... you could duplicate this yourself, for your specific cars, using the WIS. It would be difficult for me to create the document without having access to the specific vehicle - I could try, but it likely would not be 100% complete.



If you have any other questions, just let me know!

 

Dave,
Thanks for your quick response. Please check your PM's.

 

Tool still available? I am troubleshooting a very stubborn e300d running problem where it will start and run smoothly briefly at idle before dying, and dye immediately with throttle opening. Having exhausted local expertise and my own, the tool may bail me out.

 

No, sorry, it's sold... I forgot to update this thread. If you send me an email, I can tell you how to duplicate the kit. It may help if you have a 1995 E300 diesel (or any other car with OM606 diesel engine) since those computers have live data available, the older ones (OM602/603) are largely mechanical and only have blink codes, no live data.

 

hi guys,

i can get you a star diagnosis for 2500.00 and you can do anything on mercedes benz diagnosis from 1992 thru 2009 cars!!!! pm me if interested!!

thanks

rob

 

do you have any pics of the diagnosis system

 

....And is this a standard "scan" package or does it include "engineer mode" as well?

 

loool Not trying to lowball but will you take 20??

Some of the members are hilarious.

 

Are the available live data parameters the same with both the '95 W140 V8 and V12, and if not, does the V12 require a special reader kit?

Thanks!

 

The live data parameters will be almost identical between the V8 and V12... for the V12, you'll see "DI1" and "DI2", etc since there are two ignition modules, etc. The V12 doesn't require anything special, the same Snap-On cartridge works for 6, 8, and 12 cyl engines. Now that I've been using the unit for a while, I have found a few quirks and problems here & there, but it's still the cheapest way to access most of the live data available on these systems.

Oh, another bonus I recently discovered... you can reset the LH module adaptation values - very cool. I'm not sure if that is possible without a digital scanner, since pulling the module out of the car (i.e., removing power source) even for months doesn't reset the adaptation.

 

hi,
yah rod i m intrested to get this machine.plz tell me its price and also availibity,i want to use it in all mercedes cars...........
will it working

 

Hi- For pulling the codes on our fleet of 1987-1995 mercedes W124 and 201s and W126, I've used the code reader tool being offered at www.mercedesplanet.com and it worked well to diagnose the problems. Same tool also is being offered on ebay and the username there is porscheapriliafan. A bit over $40bucks US.

 

Just to clarify: The MercedesPlanet code reader is just that, a blink code reader. It has limited functionality, but does work fine to pull analog blink codes.

The digital scanner can display live data from models with electronic fuel injection (HFM and LH), basically 92-up models with M104 or M119 engines in the W124, as well as most other chassis. The scanner can also display 3-digit digital codes which are more specific than analog codes for certain systems; this is critical on models with HFM injection, and also useful on the E-GAS module on LH injection.

The hand-held blink code reader is very useful, and should be used in conjunction with the digital scanner for the most complete diagnostics (short of having a factory HHT or SDS, which is the ultimate setup).