Same problem. This morning it was wandering horribly for the first five minutes and required intervention, then it settled down.

My car also likes to take off ramps if they are close to a curve and the offramp is on the outside of the curve.

My 2015 Tesla Model S, with the original Mobileye software was dramatically better, and that was ten years ago. Tesla dumped Mobileye due to Musk NIH. Then Intel bought Mobileye, then later took it public to raise some cash. Whatever MB is using is more than ten years behind the development curve. MB is very good at mechanical engineering. Software, not so much...

 

I like the emergency braking system and have had the unpleasant experience of really needing it.

I was driving on the freeway in the middle lane. Just ahead of me in the fast lane was a car going slightly faster than I, and approaching very rapidly from behind was a pickup truck in the high speed lane going at least 30 mph faster than I and the other car in the high speed lane. As he passed me, he pulled into my lane, obviously intending to pass the car ahead of him. As there was very little space he basically cut me off with only a foot or two to spare. However since he was looking at me as he cut over, he completely missed the fact that the car ahead of him, seeing he was going very fast, had also pulled into my lane to let him pass. Since he had cut me off with almost no distance to spare, I had eased off the accelerator and was slowing slightly. The truck completed moving into my lane and, looking ahead, suddenly realized that the car he thought he was going to pass was directly in front of him, so he slammed on his brakes, almost coming to a stop, to avoid hitting the car ahead. I had seen the brake lights come on and was trying to get to the brakes myself. I had just touched the brake pedal when the emergency braking fired with an amazing display of warning lights on the dash and quite a few alarms sounding. As mentioned above, the seatbelts locked up, and my car slowed impressively. We maintained a distance of about five feet from the truck. There is no doubt that the emergency braking system prevented a very serious accident. I never could have braked fast enough and hard enough to avoid hitting the truck.

The emergency braking stopped when the truck ahead stopped braking and began accelerating back to highway speeds from a near stop. I started accelerating again too and was looking to see if there was any traffic behind me that I needed to worry about, then eased off when I saw no-one was behind me. It happened so fast that at first I thought the truck driver was brake checking me because I was in an EV. It was only later when I reviewed the dash cam that I realize the car ahead had changed lanes due to the truck rapidly gaining on him.

 

Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good.
You could have easily been totaled from any of 3 sides.
I hate situations like that.
Those types of situations box you in, leaving very few escape routes or alternative courses of actions.
At least you not only survived to tell the tale, but were none the worse for wear.

 

This is really odd, because I certainly don't have that experience at all. The EQE has the best ADAS and lane centering I've experienced for any car through model 2023, which my EQE is. It takes tight turns with gusto, slowing only if necessary, but keeping well in the lane, and in straightaways, it's always perfectly centered. Wonder why yours is behaving differently? My car "acknowledges" off-ramps occasionally, it'll start moving the wheel as if to take the exit lane but within half a second stops and straightens back out. It's nearly imperceptible, and only happens occasionally.

 

Great story, we've had a few close calls where Active Brake Assist saved our butts. One notable one was where my wife, in a 2014 GLK250 Bluetec with driver assistance package (had to order it), was exiting off a highway with a merge lane that made it nearly impossible to check for oncoming traffic to the left. The car in front of her proceeded into the intersection and my wife started looking hard left to see oncoming traffic and missed that the car in front decided to abort its merge. Thankfully the car noticed and stopped her. She was almost 9 months pregnant at the time with our first child, I shudder to think what could have happened. Recently, in her EQE, she didn't notice an oncoming cross-traffic situation. Because of an occlusion. The car did. It nudged the steering wheel to the left, and fortunately the cross traffic finally stopped as it should have. All 3 kids were in the car. There are plenty more of these, but yeah, it's absolutely a life-saving technology.

 

Its saving a lot of bumpers and fenders as well.

 

Coming back on this:

I still don't understand what the problem might be .

On the "radar screen" it always shows exactly where the car is between the lines .
so when it's hugging the left or right line, then this clearly shows.
so the car "knows" where it is, yet does not adjust it's trajectory ..

Here's an example how it handles a curve in the road.
It's maybe not so clear on camera, but the car is really close to the concrete separation
(definitely a moment where i fully keep both hands on the steering wheel...)
And after the curve you see it going back to the middle of the lane

 

Yeah, I'm seeing what you're seeing, of course from the dashcam perspective, it doesn't look as close. In the US, we have wider lanes, so I probably wouldn't see the behavior you're seeing in that case. I haven't seen the car do things that closely, only perhaps if the curve is very sharp. Yours look pretty shallow, so it should be possible for it to follow.

A possibility is that because the lanes are narrower and you have some changes in curvature, the car is trying to avoid being too abrupt in steering inputs. Put the car in Sport mode and see if it hugs the lines better. It may not, but it's worth trying. In Sport mode, the car is more assertive with steering inputs, among other things, at least in theory. Still worth mentioning a calibration to your dealer, but they may not see the car as performing outside of specification.

 

We are in the infancy, maybe even toddler’s stage of AI.
There are a limited number of driverless vehicles in operation, with the intent to increase that amount.
A driverless vehicle is, in essence, a form of crude AI.
Some driverless vehicles have had some very serious wrecks, and although rare, deaths due to driverless vehicles.
This can happen as the wrinkles get ironed out.
Ostensibly, this is all unintentional, yet still unable to avoid the worst dangers.
I wonder what can of worms will be opened with some OTA updates that are only partially received, or otherwise corrupted.
We need Isaac Asimov to imbue all these cybernetics with the three rules, to absolutely ensure that AI is 100% safe for humans.
Otherwise, we might get the terminator, and skynet, that can’t be bargained with, never sleeps, and thus never stops.
We are getting to a place where we are playing God, creating a Frankenstein, and finding out that filling God’s shoes is more far off in the future than we can imagine.
At any rate, who you gonna sue if AI brings a huge mess to your front door?

 

Just registered to share my experience with this.
Im from Spain and bought an EQE 350 MY2023 with less than 4.000KM early this year from MB fleet in Germany (Young Star program). From the very first day i have had problems related with software, and this one its one of the most anoying and unresolved one.
In my car, rolling through highway or fast roads it works flawlessly (bit conservative but this is MB decission), but in city streets i have red lights and emergency brakes almost every day.
Last week, i was parking and one passanger on the rear seats just unlocked his fastbelt when the car made a emergency brake and this passanger hited the front seat with his head. No injuries but i felt really ashamed for this situation.

Apart from this, i had to wate my time 4 times leaving my car in the dealership for problems with the door handlers (control module firmware issue) and othe problems related with the software and the digital extras, so totally agree with those that claims MB its years behind competitors in SW.
This is my first and last MB, probably moving to BMW with my next car.

 

I recommend you take it to the dealer and have them calibrate the system.

 

Sorry for your experience, I'm sure it was a frustrating one. As I and others have mentioned, make sure your car is aligned and that Distronic/Brake Assist is calibrated. It's generally a self-calibrating/self-learning system, but if the offset isn't much, it needs to be initiated by MB.

I've seen a variety of L2 ADAS from various manufacturers. Phantom braking is prevalent in all of them, it's just not possible to avoid it because of the primary emphasis on safety. Things that our brains ignore gladly because of contextual information may appear life-threatening to the sensory systems of a car. I can say that in my years of driving MBs with Distronic, the number of phantom braking events has been either none (in some of my cars) to very few - maybe one per year if that. And in most of those cases, there was an external trigger. The last phantom braking event we had in an EQ was driving out of Chicago on State St after a visit for a vacation. A very low, narrow tunnel, perfect for RADAR echoes, along with the car in front of us stomping on their brakes, initiated an early panic stop. The thing is, the car wasn't that far off - the person in front did stop very quickly, and at most, I'd have had another second to do the same. Early, yes, but completely incorrect, no.

That's not to mention the many, many phantom braking incidents from camera-only systems. Yes, they impress with lax security implementations (the users are the beta testers!) that yield highly functional (but sometimes dead wrong) and impressive tech demos, but the reality is, every car suffers from these events.

MB, BMW, and a few others are partnering with Momenta next year. You've probably seen the tech demos on the CLA a month or two ago showing unassisted "Level 2 plus plus" navigating dense city streets on their own. This tech is coming next year, probably in the second half, and will be available on a number of platforms, including the new GLC EV as well, I'd imagine. It'll be a very interesting system. For me, Distronic handles the tedious long stretches and city traffic, which is just about all I need it to do - while it'd be cool to have a hands-off system, I personally enjoy driving enough that it's not critical.

Anyway, again, sorry you had a rough experience, but do keep in mind these issues are endemic to every car equipped with ADAS, no matter the brand or software stack developer. It will take time to improve, but these events, though rare, will still happen for the foreseeable future.

 

Impressive post, bytemaster0.
As regards phantom braking, if a pothole detection system was developed to stop a car, or slow it substantially prior to contact with the pothole, I would not be opposed to that.
The biggest problem I see with these panic stop automatic systems is, no consideration, that I have seen, is given to the traffic behind you.
Panic stops at highway speeds, in even moderate traffic, will increase the likelihood of being rear ended substantially.
A swerve autonomous reaction would be just as problematic.

 

Boy, yeah, pothole detection would be fantastic. I hit a pretty nasty dip in the road a few weeks ago in the sedan, I'll admit, I may not have been paying 100% attention to that spot. No damage as far as I can tell, but it'll make you bristle, that's for sure! And yeah, agreed on the rear-ending side of things, it's a risk, and as soon as it started applying brakes, I was looking behind. Chicagoans aren't known for leaving a lot of distance, lol. But it worked out okay that time. The one other time I notice speed reductions (but not panic braking) is next to semis with aero wings on the underside. Something about the radar echoes causes the car to panic a little bit.

I will say that after a trip back at night from Nashville, we had such dense fog just past the Kentucky border, that none of us had chance at visibility. The radar could see right through it, which was a big relief.

 

Is that video from the Heads Up Display?
One of my most unfounded dreads, is that I will find myself in a multi car pileup in a thick bank of fog.
Once you are in it, in anything but light traffic, you are in a heap of trouble, as Sheriff Buford T. Justice(Aka Jackie Gleason aka The Great One) would say.

 

It's from the integrated dashcam, yeah. The dashcam tends to be a bit on the darker side at night, but the visibility it portrays was spot on. It was nearly impossible to see.

For the curious, all camera-based ADAS functions did stop working - steering assistant, active lane keeping, and Distronic functions (because steering assistant was unavailable). The collision prevention assistant displayed a yellow icon, meaning partial or reduced functionality. That said, the RADAR-based portion was still working just fine. I have no doubts it would have adequately warned of an impending collision concern, and braked accordingly. Still, we slowed down to about 25 MPH and eventually formed a convoy with the vehicles and trucks ahead, each car about 100 feet ahead. The hazard lights were all you could see.

 

I’ve noticed a new issue when using adaptive cruise control / Autopilot.

The car slows down for trucks well before they appear on the radar display.

There is still a distance of about 400–500 meters (1,300–1,600 feet) between my car and the truck when this happens.

(with cars it works as it should)

This doesn’t seem normal?

I'm definitely making an appointment to have this checked out (and the problems mentioned earlier in this thread),
but it's always good to have some feedback from others.

Below are two clips, shown back to back, that demonstrate the problem (set cruise speed is 140km/h)

 

I've spent a lot of time traveling through Germany (read: LOTS of trucks) and I've never noticed a difference in Distronic behavior between cars and trucks on my EQE SUV. I think it's good that you're having it checked out.

 

The bigger the RADAR signature, and the greater the speed differential, the earlier it will react. 500m is quite early, but if you're going VERY quickly with a high speed differential, it will pick up the truck early due to large RADAR signature, and then slow you down earlier so that your speed differential doesn't cause sudden braking. Trucks tend to be quite slow in Europe due to maximum speed limits, so I'd expect this behavior.

 

Still, why doesn't it show in the radar screen and why does it start braking even before the green line appears?
the trucks are so far away that you hardly even see them yet
the car brakes well before the moment you would start to change lanes to overtake the truck

 

car was at dealer for 2 days

they found nothing wrong. according to the technician:
- car behaves between the lanes as it should
- the fact that it picks up trucks before they even appear in the radar screen is normal too

so basically the car does a worse job than my previous 2 E-classes ....

Still; it seems they have managed to fix the 2 squeaky front seats...

For a 109.000 euro car i am NOT impressed ...

(won't make a joke about it being USA built ;-)

 

As you shouldn’t since
EQE Sedan is Made in Germany Bremen plant

 

I have the SUV
reason i post here, is because it's more active than the SUV sub forum