Why doesn't MB offer a no frills EQS SUV for under $80K?
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Why doesn't MB offer a no frills EQS SUV for under $80K?
Before I retired I used GL450 SUVs in my small business. I rarely drove further than 150 miles for supply runs or exhibiting at car shows. The 305 mile range would have been more than adequate. Both my 2010 and 2013 GL450s had MSRPs below $80K. I think there would be a market for an "entry level" EQS SUV equipped more like a GLS450. I think the RWD EQS SUV could be de-optioned to bring the price below $80K. Things I would change to bring the price of the EQS 450+ down to $80K:
1) Make leather interior optional. Offer MBtex interior.
2) Make Sun roof optional. Change Sun roof to fixed glass, but retain shade (eliminating the glass roof all together would require too many interior/exterior changes).
3) Drop the free 30-minute EA DC charging.
4) Make power second row seats optional. Five seat only with fixed rear seating and manual folding rear seat backs.
5) Make RAS optional.
6) Change warranty to 3-year/36K miles.
7) Drop 20K mile complimentary service.
8) Make Burmester sound system optional.
9) Make heated/ventilated front seats optional.
10) Make power folding mirrors optional.
Even if MB never sold a single stripped down EQS SUV they could advertise an $80K entry level price that qualified the SUV for the $7500 tax credit.
1) Make leather interior optional. Offer MBtex interior.
2) Make Sun roof optional. Change Sun roof to fixed glass, but retain shade (eliminating the glass roof all together would require too many interior/exterior changes).
3) Drop the free 30-minute EA DC charging.
4) Make power second row seats optional. Five seat only with fixed rear seating and manual folding rear seat backs.
5) Make RAS optional.
6) Change warranty to 3-year/36K miles.
7) Drop 20K mile complimentary service.
8) Make Burmester sound system optional.
9) Make heated/ventilated front seats optional.
10) Make power folding mirrors optional.
Even if MB never sold a single stripped down EQS SUV they could advertise an $80K entry level price that qualified the SUV for the $7500 tax credit.
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Mb’s percentage of profits are much higher selling the public “bundles” of accessories, many that someone may never use. A lower priced stripped down version would sell enough to kill the money they make now on the higher end versions. They are a “for profit” company.
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Before I retired I used GL450 SUVs in my small business. I rarely drove further than 150 miles for supply runs or exhibiting at car shows. The 305 mile range would have been more than adequate. Both my 2010 and 2013 GL450s had MSRPs below $80K. I think there would be a market for an "entry level" EQS SUV equipped more like a GLS450. I think the RWD EQS SUV could be de-optioned to bring the price below $80K. Things I would change to bring the price of the EQS 450+ down to $80K:
1) Make leather interior optional. Offer MBtex interior.
2) Make Sun roof optional. Change Sun roof to fixed glass, but retain shade (eliminating the glass roof all together would require too many interior/exterior changes).
3) Drop the free 30-minute EA DC charging.
4) Make power second row seats optional. Five seat only with fixed rear seating and manual folding rear seat backs.
5) Make RAS optional.
6) Change warranty to 3-year/36K miles.
7) Drop 20K mile complimentary service.
8) Make Burmester sound system optional.
9) Make heated/ventilated front seats optional.
10) Make power folding mirrors optional.
Even if MB never sold a single stripped down EQS SUV they could advertise an $80K entry level price that qualified the SUV for the $7500 tax credit.
1) Make leather interior optional. Offer MBtex interior.
2) Make Sun roof optional. Change Sun roof to fixed glass, but retain shade (eliminating the glass roof all together would require too many interior/exterior changes).
3) Drop the free 30-minute EA DC charging.
4) Make power second row seats optional. Five seat only with fixed rear seating and manual folding rear seat backs.
5) Make RAS optional.
6) Change warranty to 3-year/36K miles.
7) Drop 20K mile complimentary service.
8) Make Burmester sound system optional.
9) Make heated/ventilated front seats optional.
10) Make power folding mirrors optional.
Even if MB never sold a single stripped down EQS SUV they could advertise an $80K entry level price that qualified the SUV for the $7500 tax credit.
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As an EQE SUV owner I think it's a great idea. If you sell someone a car with creaky plastic and rattles for $100K they're not likely to buy a more expensive one for $150K and they certainly won't buy a Maybach with creaky plastic and rattles. They might, however, buy a cheaper Mercedes in the future where the cheap materials won't be as big of a deal.
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That's what the EQE SUV is for. And even if you take a look at the current GLS, it has a nearly 90K starting price now with standard burmester, vented seats, power fold mirrors, and pano roof. It doesn't make sense for MB to offer the possibility to build a car spec that would sell so little.
Offering the minimally optioned version would get more people in the showroom, even if they did not sell a single one. I once had a school picture photographer as a client. He offered one package with three wallet sized photos of your kid for $2.95. He never sold a single package. But, schools awarded him the photography photo contract because he offered the lowest price compared to his competitors.
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If MB EV sales continue to lag it may make sense to offer the stripped down EQS SUV version I described in order to amortize the tooling cost of the core vehicle. There are very few EQS SUVs on the road. After just under a year and 23K miles I have yet to see another one on the road. So far, other than on dealer lots ,I have not seen a single EQS SUV, except for one at an EA charging station in Los Angeles. In contrast, I see Teslas practically every time I stop at a red light. Well, maybe not every light, but you get the idea.
Offering the minimally optioned version would get more people in the showroom, even if they did not sell a single one. I once had a school picture photographer as a client. He offered one package with three wallet sized photos of your kid for $2.95. He never sold a single package. But, schools awarded him the photography photo contract because he offered the lowest price compared to his competitors.
Offering the minimally optioned version would get more people in the showroom, even if they did not sell a single one. I once had a school picture photographer as a client. He offered one package with three wallet sized photos of your kid for $2.95. He never sold a single package. But, schools awarded him the photography photo contract because he offered the lowest price compared to his competitors.
1) How many potential MB buyers have "low price" as their #1 criterion.
2) Does MB want to risk brand "cachet" by offering low-price versions of their top vehicles.
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As to risking the brand status, why has it been okay to offer GLS Class SUVs with MBtex interiors and without RAS for the last 20 years.
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Whats worst is that even the 2023 EQS Electric motors is not from Benz. It's from Valeo Siemens. Imagine paying premium cost for your S Class where it's internal combustion engine is not from Benz. Then why pay Benz S Class pricing at all ?
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