Anyone regret getting a 450 vs a 580?
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3 sec to pass a semi On an ICE 2 secs to downshift and rev 3 sec more to pass the truck. You obviously haven't driven an EV. That why on acceleration from 50 mph EVs leave cars with bigger numbers behind with ease. A more powerful car will catch it, but by then who cares? By then they are well over 100mph. Have you driven the 450? My obvious conclusion is no since you don't have a clue. The car is FAST, period. Again, as fast or faster than 90 percent of the cars on the road. Even an entry porsche Macan is slower, you know Porsches are just slowww.
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Well, let's leave it there. We clearly have different backgrounds in cars and that includes EVs. You are comparing things to a Honda Accord apparently while I DD AMGs. We clearly live in different worlds.
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I driven everything from Lambos on down. I simply understand that cars that sell less than a thousand cars a year worldwide don't a market make. 90% of the market is cheap crossovers, pick-ups and japanese or korean midsize sedans, none of which goes much faster 90 miles per hour at the 1/4, you know, the REAL world. That's without counting the 25 percent of cars on the road that are jalopies.
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I driven everything from Lambos on down. I simply understand that cars that sell less than a thousand cars a year worldwide don't a market make. 90% of the market is cheap crossovers, pick-ups and japanese or korean midsize sedans, none of which goes much faster 90 miles per hour at the 1/4, you know, the REAL world. That's without counting the 25 percent of cars on the road that are jalopies.
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I driven everything from Lambos on down. I simply understand that cars that sell less than a thousand cars a year worldwide don't a market make. 90% of the market is cheap crossovers, pick-ups and japanese or korean midsize sedans, none of which goes much faster 90 miles per hour at the 1/4, you know, the REAL world. That's without counting the 25 percent of cars on the road that are jalopies.
The OP has a Plaid and is asking a question. For an EV, the 450 is not quick. A regular Model Y LR will be quicker and so will many ICE’s.
Nobody said it has to be as it serves the luxury segment but the OP may consider the 580 for AWD and a bit more juice…
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To the OP. If you want to pass 5 cars on a two lane road in 1/2 mile, don't get the 450. I also hope you are not driving anywhere near me. However, as I said before, the 450 is not slow or underpowered. It is a capable daily driver for the majority of driving situations which a reasonable driver might encounter. Hope that answers your original question.
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To the OP. If you want to pass 5 cars on a two lane road in 1/2 mile, don't get the 450. I also hope you are not driving anywhere near me. However, as I said before, the 450 is not slow or underpowered. It is a capable daily driver for the majority of driving situations which a reasonable driver might encounter. Hope that answers your original question.
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2022 EQS 450+
My only real concern is acceleration (not drag racing
… more about being able to pass other cars with enough ease). My perspective is skewed because I daily a Tesla Plaid, and basically everything now feels slow compared to that violence-mobile. My wife thought the 450 was “quick enough” but I’m wondering if anyone could comment on the power level for everyday driving.
I’m looking to purchase an EQS in the next week, and am quite excited by the car, they’re really great.
Thanks a lot!
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I’m looking to purchase an EQS in the next week, and am quite excited by the car, they’re really great.
Thanks a lot!
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I just drove down to LA and picked up an Onyx Black 450+ and drove it back to the Bay Area.
I have zero regrets, the car has ample speed for pretty much anything you’d do if you were sane and mostly normal
.
the things I was worried about, namely being able to pass other cars easily in most situations, were no problem at all, even up big hills , etc.
fantastic car, really enjoying it.
I just drove down to LA and picked up an Onyx Black 450+ and drove it back to the Bay Area.
I have zero regrets, the car has ample speed for pretty much anything you’d do if you were sane and mostly normal
![Wink](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
the things I was worried about, namely being able to pass other cars easily in most situations, were no problem at all, even up big hills , etc.
fantastic car, really enjoying it.
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My question was really about practical day to day driving, does anyone find the 450 to be insufficient. It wasn't a comparative match between car x and car y, which is crazy these days because cars have gotten FAST (my Plaid being a good example, although it comes at the cost of having to fix creaking noises with electrical tape!)
Any feedback from 450 owners about their satisfaction or dissatisfaction would be most appreciated.
Any feedback from 450 owners about their satisfaction or dissatisfaction would be most appreciated.
If you end up around San Jose and want to give it a test drive, let me know.
By the way, the big reason not to get a 580 is the stupid crazy markup. Those things are so rare, you will be hard-pressed to find one with a markup below 50k. But no matter what, you won't be paying MSRP, unlike a Tesla.
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Right before I got my MSRP 450+, a dealership offered me a 580 for 10k over MSRP. I declined, as It wasn’t as well equipped as the 450 in a few key ways.
I had a few others get to 20k mark up. But these are rare!
there’s also a 450 with Hyperscreen in Pleasanton , but I didn’t like the interior color scheme as much.
I had a few others get to 20k mark up. But these are rare!
there’s also a 450 with Hyperscreen in Pleasanton , but I didn’t like the interior color scheme as much.
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Right before I got my MSRP 450+, a dealership offered me a 580 for 10k over MSRP. I declined, as It wasn’t as well equipped as the 450 in a few key ways.
I had a few others get to 20k mark up. But these are rare!
there’s also a 450 with Hyperscreen in Pleasanton , but I didn’t like the interior color scheme as much.
I had a few others get to 20k mark up. But these are rare!
there’s also a 450 with Hyperscreen in Pleasanton , but I didn’t like the interior color scheme as much.
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UPDATE
I just drove down to LA and picked up an Onyx Black 450+ and drove it back to the Bay Area.
I have zero regrets, the car has ample speed for pretty much anything you’d do if you were sane and mostly normal
.
the things I was worried about, namely being able to pass other cars easily in most situations, were no problem at all, even up big hills , etc.
fantastic car, really enjoying it.
I just drove down to LA and picked up an Onyx Black 450+ and drove it back to the Bay Area.
I have zero regrets, the car has ample speed for pretty much anything you’d do if you were sane and mostly normal
![Wink](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
the things I was worried about, namely being able to pass other cars easily in most situations, were no problem at all, even up big hills , etc.
fantastic car, really enjoying it.
congrats!! Got mine in December and love it too!
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