hlothery

I'm consistently getting >4mpkWh using normal regen, and toggling to strong regen and using one pedal driving in heavy traffic. Not sure how much more efficient it could be. I agree the coasting is amazing, almost weird. It freaks me out, because I don't believe the radar response is quick enough, and then the brake feel is strange. I just want more control, not ready yet to trust all these driver assistance programs. Admittedly, the way I do it makes the car feel like a sports car with a manual transmission, using the gears to help braking. I like that. YMMV.

c4004matic

4mpkw is actually quite good. Hwy driving should be about 3. City driving should be the thriftiest given the constant use of regen. If there is one thing the EQ is a champ at it's regen. The 580 can max out at 290 KW.​​​​​​​Another thing Im curious about is how the 450 and 580 differ in regen "feel". Its not possible that they "feel" the same. The 450 is doing all the regen braking with the rear axle while the 580 proportions both. Inquiring minds want to know......

stealth.pilot

That's pretty amazing efficiency. I get a lot less.

hlothery

OK. So I tried the braking with no regen today, and you are right, it does feel the most normal of them all. And coasting is absolutely amazing.....so much so that it is scary!. I have gotten used to the brake feel now in normal regen, and totally trust it. I will continue to run in that mode, except for traffic, where I will continue to use strong regen and practice one pedal driving. I only got 3.2 mpkWh on the way to the golf course this morning. No traffic, doing the speed limit most of the way with Spring Break here. However, heavy traffic again on the way home and I again got 4.5 mpkWh using strong regen. This is an amazing city car, especially since you are doing all this in such comfort and quiet. I would suspect the 580 would be amazing in traffic as well, although I'll bet MB modulates the feel of strong regen for the twin motors? Would love to drive a 580 to see how it compares.

AppleFan1

I finally got an update this morning. My EQS 580 is on the Sirius Highway vessel on the way to Baltimore. The ETA to Baltimore is March 24. The general manager is guessing that I'll have it either at the end of this month or early April. Can't wait!

c4004matic

When did your order?

AppleFan1

Originally, I ordered way back in June but I think the system didn't really confirm the build until early October.

c4004matic

Maybe Ill get lucky......🤞

hlothery

Ok. At the risk of , I'll post just one more mileage experience. Today I played golf, which I do 5 days a week. The golf course is 22.6 miles Northwast of my house. I drove today, in no traffic, at 70-75 mph into a strong NW wind of 20-30mph to the course, at 53 degrees ambient temp, and got 2.7mpkWh, one of my lowest readings. So, slick as it is, headwinds make a huge difference in mileage. I drove home in traffic, using strong regen as usual, downwind, 68 degrees, and got 5.0 mpkWh, my highest reading ever. Crazy what existing conditions do to an EV. OK, I promise, I'll stop now.

MBNUT1

What is the elevation change between your home and the golf course?

hlothery

Not sure, probably not more than several hundred feet. Pretty flat to there. Seems to all revolve around morning vs afternoon temps, and traffic. High speed, low traffic runs where there is no opportunity for regen are not nearly as efficient as lower speed, heavy traffic runs with warm temps and the frequent use of strong regen. The wind usually is SE....todays strong NW wind just added an extra element of variability which I though was interesting.

c4004matic

No worries these are all good data points. And yes indeed climate conditions, in particular head or tail wind will make a significant difference. We must remember 108kw is about the same energy as 3 gallons of gas! If you take into account the thermodynamic losses of an ICE engine (about 60%) its still only about 5 gallons total. The best hybrids in the market provide around 50mpg. With that efficiency all you would ever get is 250 miles on 5 gallons. Sooo not bad at all! Again the EQS, despite being a big lardass provides 92mpge!

Radman991

FYI. Just heard from my nephew who’s girlfriend works for the company that owned the car carrier that recently caught on fire and sunk. Fire apparently started with a Volkswagen ID 4 sparking and the crew tried to extinguish it and seal off compartment but they didn’t have the proper equipment to put the fire out and it spread to other Volkswagens. She said now insurance companies are balking at insuring the carriers with electric cars because they don’t have the necessary equipment to handle electric car fires. On a positive note said WWL is continuing to ship cars now but who knows what the future will hold. Just what I need. I’ve been waiting forever already for my 580 and don’t need any further delays.

AppleFan1

That could be a problem for the EQS down the road. I sure hope not, though.

Soulman

Damn, that is great man!

AppleFan1

I have a new ETA to Baltimore for my EQS 580. It was stuck at a Belgian port (ZEE BRUGGE) for days. The new ETA is April 1. The good news is that it's now on its way to Baltimore. There are no other planned stops. I'm following the progress on a map.

c4004matic

Double

c4004matic

Temper your hopes.....After arrival in port it can still takes weeks before delivery. Hope for a week, but expect up to a month🥺

Radman991

Underway doing 16.6 knts off the coast of Dover. I also tracked my previous S class cars from Germany to Baltimore. Once the carrier gets far enough offshore I had to subscribe to a satellite based AIS tracker to follow the ship across the Atlantic. I’m planning on doing the same when my 580 order finally gets to production.

AppleFan1

I was told by the General Manager at my dealer that's no longer the case (That use to be the case until a month or two ago) since this was already done near the port in Germany. He said that it now only takes 1-3 days at the VPC. I'm hoping that I'll have it by about April 10.

jhpiipe

My EQS AMG arrived in Baltimore on the 14th of March and is still there, hoping it gets on a truck to Pittsburgh in the next few weeks, my dealer said could be a month or more. Keep your fingers crossed BeanTrader, that is all we can do! 🤷🏼‍♂️

hlothery

Having looked at this for another couple of weeks, i'm wondering if elevation change is the difference. There is a 550ft elevation increase to get to the golf course. I've had wind from both directions, cold and hot, and both traffic and no traffic both ways. But, try as I might I cannot get better than 3.2mpkWh going to the golf course, but regularly get 4.3-4.8mpkWh coming home. No mileage difference, similar ET, and average speeds. Any other thoughts?

Soulman

My thought is it has to take more energy to get a 2 ton car up 550' elevation gain than it does going down, plus are you using regin going down the hill?

c4004matic

560 ft will make no difference at all. Furtheremore, if you take the same route up and down its effect will be mostly offset by the "down leg" of the trip.

hlothery

Over 23 miles the 550 foot elevation change certainly seems imperceptable. I probably do use strong regen a little more on the trip home, because afternoon traffic is usually a little worse, and I use that in traffic. Happened again today, 3.2mpkWh goiing, 4.8 coming home. AC on full each way, traffic about the same. Hardly used strong regen at all either way. It's interesting. Wish I could explain it.