Car wash
Water Spots. Even the auto car washing facilities with super hair driers are prone to water spotting. Most facilities use city industrial water – which isn’t filtered and contains higher calcium deposits or other minerals. As water dries on the surface, those deposits will dry rapidly, and leave dried mineral deposits that are difficult to remove.
The brushes are meant for durability and not for their gentleness to the paint. The dirt would stick to those brushes when not in use and when a car comes in for a wash, you can imagine what those brushes would do to your paint.
Last edited by C2 Turbo; May 19, 2022 at 08:56 PM.
Is it at least coated or does it have ppf? Or both?
But a lot of people don’t have the time to wash their car, take care of their garden, or even walk their dog… so they hire someone!
What I have done to keep the car clean is protect the car with a ceramic coating, when the car gets dirty I take it through a touch less car wash.
When the car is too dirty for a touch less wash I either wash it myself or I either take it to get hand washed or I call a mobile service.
NEVER will I take my car through a torture tunnel… even if I had a full body ppf I wouldn’t mistreat my car like that…
My ford however… yeah I take that thing through that scratch gauntlet… because it’s a Ford lol
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Sometimes the damage is not visible until few years later.
However, it is your daily driver so who cares about the swirl marks etc etc...... a clean car is still way better than driving a nasty dirty car.
Enjoy your car
Sometimes the damage is not visible until few years later.
However, it is your daily driver so who cares about the swirl marks etc etc...... a clean car is still way better than driving a nasty dirty car.
Enjoy your car
Guys, modern paint is 2 coats of base color with 3 or 4 coats of clear over it! The clear is fully transparent! It will keep the base coat in perfect condition for decades in a garaged car! The only scratches that will ever be visible with the naked eye are scratches that extend through the layers! Everything has swirl marks if you use a bright enough light and a magnifying glass! A coat of any wax will fill them and make them "disappear"! If you protect your car from day one with a silicone dioxide containig product you never have to do anything other than wash it and clay off the tar and stuff that sticks to the paint one or twice a year. The paint will be as new essentially as long as the car lasts. Any product that claims to last for years or that costs more than 20 bucks is a rip-off.
Last edited by c4004matic; May 20, 2022 at 08:19 PM.
Guys, modern paint is 2 coats of base color with 3 or 4 coats of clear over it! The clear is fully transparent! It will keep the base coat in perfect condition for decades in a garaged car! The only scratches that will ever be visible with the naked eye are scratches that extend through the layers! Everything has swirl marks if you use a bright enough light and a magnifying glass! A coat of any wax will fill them and make them "disappear"! If you protect your car from day one with a silicone dioxide containig product you never have to do anything other than wash it and clay off the tar and stuff that sticks to the paint one or twice a year. The paint will be as new essentially as long as the car lasts. Any product that claims to last for years or that costs more than 20 bucks is a rip-off.
Last edited by hlothery; May 21, 2022 at 01:24 PM.
Have never ever had a finish problem.




As for hand washing being more gentle in general, that's been debunked by a study done at the Technical University of Munich, and later substantiated by the University of Texas. They both found that hand washing causes deeper scratches than commercial washes even after only a short time. Even when using the two bucket method you trap debris in a small cloth that gets dragged over the paint. There's more getting stuck in there than you think. The commercial brushes have much bigger surface areas for the debris that gets caught to spread out.
Now, I don't just go to any commercial car wash. As said, here in the USA I use a touchless wash, but I did a 2 months European Delivery with my current car and had to wash it occasionally while criss-crossing through Europe. I went to high-end washes only, and in particular those who said they can accommodate my wide rear wheels. Ultimately with the entire month of May raining and then getting splattered by bugs in June, washing it was ultimately better for the paint than letting all the stuff sit for 2 months. Not to mention that I was required to wash the car before they shipped it or worse somebody who didn't care at the port would have washed it.
https://samscarwashkl.com/university...r-cars-finish/
Last edited by superswiss; May 24, 2022 at 01:27 PM.
As for hand washing being more gentle in general, that's been debunked by a study done at the Technical University of Munich, and later substantiated by the University of Texas. They both found that hand washing causes deeper scratches than commercial washes even after only a short time. Even when using the two bucket method you trap debris in a small cloth that gets dragged over the paint. There's more getting stuck in there than you think. The commercial brushes have much bigger surface areas for the debris that gets caught to spread out.
Now, I don't just go to any commercial car wash. As said, here in the USA I use a touchless wash, but I did a 2 months European Delivery with my current car and had to wash it occasionally while criss-crossing through Europe. I went to high-end washes only, and in particular those who said they can accommodate my wide rear wheels. Ultimately with the entire month of May raining and then getting splattered by bugs in June, washing it was ultimately better for the paint than letting all the stuff sit for 2 months. Not to mention that I was required to wash the car before they shipped it or worse somebody who didn't care at the port would have washed it.
https://samscarwashkl.com/university...r-cars-finish/




Last edited by superswiss; May 24, 2022 at 03:22 PM.
Have never ever had a finish problem.
If you were to do it yourself or hire someone who puts in the necessary time and attention, it's a different story. The best technique in my opinion is to use a foam gun and pressure washer to get rid of the dirt before hand washing. A foam gun can be loaded with a lubricating wash (add some waterless car wash to the car wash mix) which lifts the dirt into suspension with the foam. Then use the hose to remove the foam suspended dirt. After that you can gently hand wash with a fresh microfiber mitt to get the small bits of dirt. Finally you can use a deionized rinse which eliminates the need to dry the car. A deionized rinse combined with a blower to 90% dry the car will leave it spotless with no abrasion from drying towels. This approach will be vastly superior to any machine wash - even a touchless one.









