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Old Jun 17, 2022 | 12:30 PM
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Should we expect to pay MSRP?

This seems pretty standard across the board but I've seen some people getting a few pennies off so I thought I'd ask. There seems to be several EQS across the bay area dealer's lot so it's not like we're completely out like some other vehicle. I have not own a MB in 5 years so loyalty discount is out of the question. I do have an X7, are they still doing things like competitor discounts or what not? Are dealers even budging?
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Old Jun 17, 2022 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dannieboiz
This seems pretty standard across the board but I've seen some people getting a few pennies off so I thought I'd ask. There seems to be several EQS across the bay area dealer's lot so it's not like we're completely out like some other vehicle. I have not own a MB in 5 years so loyalty discount is out of the question. I do have an X7, are they still doing things like competitor discounts or what not? Are dealers even budging?
If you want a 580 expect to pay a premium. If you want a 450 you may be able to get MSRP. Depends on the dealers allocation situation.
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Old Jun 17, 2022 | 03:17 PM
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MSRP is a gift on a new model that is virtually sold out for mths if not a year. If you can find one in a dealer that you like for MSRP run away with it. I never buy lot cars since if Im paying 100k for something, I want it tailored exactly to my taste. Ergo, I always pay MSRP. That said the EQS is kind of a bargain to begin with. I probably could have stomached a 7% surcharge.
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Old Jun 17, 2022 | 05:16 PM
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I was able to get about $1,500 off MSRP for a fully loaded 450 I picked up off the lot in March.
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Old Jun 20, 2022 | 02:04 PM
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I won't pay above MSRP, upon which itself is already an inflated price.
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Old Jun 20, 2022 | 06:12 PM
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I won't pay above MSRP, upon which itself is already an inflated price.
At what point, just out of curiosity, does any manufacturer’s suggested retail price shift from being reasonable to “inflated,” and how did you gain your knowledge of determining such a position?
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Old Jun 20, 2022 | 08:19 PM
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[QUOTE=dannieboiz;8581877] There seems to be several EQS across the bay area dealer's lot so it's not like we're completely out like some other vehicle. I/QUOTE]
Not sure which dealers you are looking at but I know dealers who have several 580s listed but they all are pre ordered, they are not at the dealership and are either in Bremerhaven or in transit, so they are trying to play off the original orderer with folks responding to their website listings. Just expect a bidding auction if you contact them.

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Old Jun 21, 2022 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Newbyloub
At what point, just out of curiosity, does any manufacturer’s suggested retail price shift from being reasonable to “inflated,” and how did you gain your knowledge of determining such a position?
After decades of conditioning to "haggle" for a deal, and now thanks to the Internet, we have the tools at our disposal to know what dealer markups are, we can judge what a "reasonable" profit margin is even when sold under MSRP. I realise the supply/demand curves should intesect at the MSRP, and should the demand skyrocket, it will have an impact on the price of a good/service, unfortunately, I do not see any added value in paying more. Unless you keep the vehicle throughout its entire life cycle, you will never recoup the amount paid above MSRP should you resell it at any point (please don't bring up niche/exotics or non-mass-market cars to counter the argument as it is not the same thing).
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Old Jun 28, 2022 | 01:33 PM
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Just picked up a 450+ in Florida for MSRP. The dealer did try quite a few mark ups initially almost adding another $10K...but common sense prevailed in the end!!
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Old Jun 29, 2022 | 11:28 AM
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Got a call from the sales person asking if I was still interested in the EQS as it's still available. Perhaps the EQS isn't moving as quickly as it seems, they're just short supply.

Or perhaps the one I drove was pretty much the base model and no one wanted it.
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Old Jun 29, 2022 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dannieboiz
Got a call from the sales person asking if I was still interested in the EQS as it's still available. Perhaps the EQS isn't moving as quickly as it seems, they're just short supply.

Or perhaps the one I drove was pretty much the base model and no one wanted it.
I live in the northeast. From what my dealer told me there has been no interest in the 450. All of his 580’s have been pre-sold. I put a deposit on June 1, 2021. I’m still waiting for an allocation. Was told I would be their first 2023 model. I was the 7th 580 on his order sheet. No one put an order in for a 450. I’m getting my 580 at MSRP. He has 3 AMG’s on order and all pre-sold. I suspect you’re talking about a 450, because 580s go out the door pretty quickly unless they are looking for a ridiculous mark up.
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Old Jun 29, 2022 | 05:29 PM
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I live in the northeast. From what my dealer told me there has been no interest in the 450. All of his 580’s have been pre-sold. I put a deposit on June 1, 2021. I’m still waiting for an allocation. Was told I would be their first 2023 model. I was the 7th 580 on his order sheet. No one put an order in for a 450. I’m getting my 580 at MSRP. He has 3 AMG’s on order and all pre-sold. I suspect you’re talking about a 450, because 580s go out the door pretty quickly unless they are looking for a ridiculous mark up.
Correct, it was a base model 450 with a MSRP of 103k and change.
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My guess is that whenever posible Mrcedes will revert to their all AWD strategy in the USA. For example all EQS in Canada are the 580 variety. Once a 450 AWD is vailable I fairly certain the RWD version will be discontinued.
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Old Jul 16, 2022 | 11:35 AM
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My dealer, the one I have a deposit with for an EQG, has a changeable allocation for an EQS 450 at $5k over - message me if interested.
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Old Jul 17, 2022 | 04:03 PM
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@ dannieboiz,What dealer did you contact in the Bay Area?
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Old Jul 18, 2022 | 09:00 PM
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My 580 has already been produced and is waiting for a ship assignment. My Bay Area dealer told me a few months ago they were asking for $30K in markup and said this could change depending on availability when the car is actually delivered. Turns out it's still a $30K markup on the 580, and I refuse to pay it. Going to have to wait at least 6 more months for delivery of a MY2023 instead with the same specs. I hope the markups go down by then. I understand supply and demand, but this is ridiculous.
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Old Jul 18, 2022 | 10:08 PM
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The dealer I bought my EQS from charges $30k over MSRP for a 580 of the lot, but they only offered me $12k below MSRP on my trade in of an EQS580.

This should tell you everything you need to know. It would be dumb to pay over MSRP unless you don’t care about depreciation.
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[QUOTE=eqs;8600473]My 580 has already been produced and is waiting for a ship assignment. My Bay Area dealer told me a few months ago they were asking for $30K in markup and said this could change depending on availability when the car is actually delivered. Turns out it's still a $30K markup on the 580, and I refuse to pay it. Going to have to wait at least 6 more months for delivery of a MY2023 instead with the same specs. I hope the markups go down by then. I understand supply and demand, but this is ridiculous.[/QUOTE
That is ridiculous. I’ve have been waiting for quite a while but finally my 580 is being built on 27 July. I was told it is a MY 2023. I am getting it at MSRP. I learned years ago to never pay over list price. You only lose in the end. In fact, this is only the second car I have bought that I was even willing to pay sticker price for. I guess some people have money to burn if they are willing to pay 30k over sticker.
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I was late to the game in my hunt for a 580, actually May of this year. Of the 6 nearest dealers none had a 580 available, 3 had 450’s, 2 wanted MSRP plus a modest Market Adjustment. One was MSRP with no Market Adjustment, however that particular 450 was a rather uninspired build. One was expecting an AMG in August, which would apparently go to the highest bidder, expected Market Adjusted price of 70 to 100K. It bothers me that customers who ordered in good faith, are paying any kind of Market Adjustment, unless it was presented at the time of ordering. Of the 6 dealers I reached out to concerning a 580, 4 had MA pricing of +25k, 2 were +15k. The one I purchased from I was able to negotiate with. Their prospective buyer backed out upon completion of his build after waiting 8 months, by luck, I just happened to call at the right time. My deal MSRP +10k MA.

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Old Jul 19, 2022 | 11:38 AM
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I'm Getting my 580 for MSRP. My car is still waiting for the ship. It was built on July 1st. I do however have a question, my dealer said that MSRP is not established until the car reaches USA.Is this true and does the price change much from the build price? He said usually price doesn't change too much.
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Originally Posted by bgrewal
I'm Getting my 580 for MSRP. My car is still waiting for the ship. It was built on July 1st. I do however have a question, my dealer said that MSRP is not established until the car reaches USA.Is this true and does the price change much from the build price? He said usually price doesn't change too much.
MBUSA can change the price anytime they want. There was a pretty big price increase a couple months ago.
There is no price protection either.
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