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Old Mar 10, 2023 | 11:01 AM
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Question on Charging Break

I would like to program my car to only charge from 12am-11am when I am at home. Is the following setup correct?

Activate Standard profile
But set Home profile to be location aware (The manual said Home will be activated automatically when I get home?)
Set charging break from 11am-12am

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Old Mar 10, 2023 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tourbillon
I would like to program my car to only charge from 12am-11am when I am at home. Is the following setup correct?

Activate Standard profile
But set Home profile to be location aware (The manual said Home will be activated automatically when I get home?)
Set charging break from 11am-12am

TIA
That is the correct setting for the pause in charging. However, those of us who have tried it ran into an unusual problem. Depending on what type of home charger you have, the home charger may click periodically as it asks the car if it wants to start charging. This happens about every five minutes with my ChargePoint Homeflex. But one member, who had a Clipper Creek charger, had it happen every few seconds. This was worrisome for me, and for the other member, and we both discontinued charging pauses because of this. I, now, plug my car in before going to bed, to have it charge overnight. Software changes in the future may fix this problem, but I am not aware that it is currently any different. I talked to ChargePoint, and they said it was nothing to worry about, but I didn't like the clicking, and the thought that it was happening. It might not bother you. Anyway, charging pauses are not without some hiccups currently.
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Old Mar 10, 2023 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Tourbillon
I would like to program my car to only charge from 12am-11am when I am at home. Is the following setup correct?

Activate Standard profile
But set Home profile to be location aware (The manual said Home will be activated automatically when I get home?)
Set charging break from 11am-12am

TIA
I don't know if the EQS is the same as the W223 hybrid but I only get a prompt to activate home profile when I arrive home. The home profile does not get activated automatically unless I acknowledge the prompt. I assume this is because I have configured the charging socket to be detachable after the charging session. Unnecessary safety in my opinion. If I was concerned about my charging cable being stolen when the car is charged near my home, I would not activate the cable release for the home profile. I actually have not tried home profile without the option to release the cable after the charging session.
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Old Mar 10, 2023 | 03:21 PM
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That is the correct setting for the pause in charging. However, those of us who have tried it ran into an unusual problem. Depending on what type of home charger you have, the home charger may click periodically as it asks the car if it wants to start charging. This happens about every five minutes with my ChargePoint Homeflex. But one member, who had a Clipper Creek charger, had it happen every few seconds. This was worrisome for me, and for the other member, and we both discontinued charging pauses because of this. I, now, plug my car in before going to bed, to have it charge overnight. Software changes in the future may fix this problem, but I am not aware that it is currently any different. I talked to ChargePoint, and they said it was nothing to worry about, but I didn't like the clicking, and the thought that it was happening. It might not bother you. Anyway, charging pauses are not without some hiccups currently.
So maybe I should just stick with Scheduled Departure time?

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I don't know if the EQS is the same as the W223 hybrid but I only get a prompt to activate home profile when I arrive home. The home profile does not get activated automatically unless I acknowledge the prompt. I assume this is because I have configured the charging socket to be detachable after the charging session. Unnecessary safety in my opinion. If I was concerned about my charging cable being stolen when the car is charged near my home, I would not activate the cable release for the home profile. I actually have not tried home profile without the option to release the cable after the charging session.
I guess I will find out tonight when I try to charge. This is only the 3rd day we have the car and I charged with scheduled departure time last night. But I don't need the car to filter the air and pre-condition the cabin temperature especially when it is not plugged in.

Coming from a Tesla and a Porsche Taycan, I have to say the Tesla setup is most intuitive and the Germans do have a different mindset when designing the UI.
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Old Mar 10, 2023 | 03:31 PM
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I don’t think the Germans consider home charging as a normal option.
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Old Mar 10, 2023 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Tourbillon
So maybe I should just stick with Scheduled Departure time?



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You can do that. I don't know if the same thing happens during the pause before it starts charging. Which charger are you using? I just plug in at night before I go to bed. The car charges, then turns itself off when it is charged. I unplug in the morning. That method is working well for me. I hope they correct the software glitch which causes the constant clicks in the future. I really like the programmed pauses while I tried them. You could just pull into the garage and plug in, and the charging would start later, but I was too worried about what was going on in the charger with the clicks to continue doing that.
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Old Mar 10, 2023 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by hlothery
That is the correct setting for the pause in charging. However, those of us who have tried it ran into an unusual problem. Depending on what type of home charger you have, the home charger may click periodically as it asks the car if it wants to start charging. This happens about every five minutes with my ChargePoint Homeflex. But one member, who had a Clipper Creek charger, had it happen every few seconds. This was worrisome for me, and for the other member, and we both discontinued charging pauses because of this. I, now, plug my car in before going to bed, to have it charge overnight. Software changes in the future may fix this problem, but I am not aware that it is currently any different. I talked to ChargePoint, and they said it was nothing to worry about, but I didn't like the clicking, and the thought that it was happening. It might not bother you. Anyway, charging pauses are not without some hiccups currently.
You can set a charge schedule with your Chargepoint Homeflex if you are that concerned about the Homeflex checking in with the car.
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Old Mar 10, 2023 | 06:17 PM
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Agree with that. Coming from Teslas, I am still constantly struggling with the EQS interface. Can't start or stop charging from the app or the car screen...but most surprising - not only does charging lid not auto-close, there isn't even an option to close it from inside the car.
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Old Mar 10, 2023 | 07:48 PM
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You can do that. I don't know if the same thing happens during the pause before it starts charging. Which charger are you using? I just plug in at night before I go to bed. The car charges, then turns itself off when it is charged. I unplug in the morning. That method is working well for me. I hope they correct the software glitch which causes the constant clicks in the future. I really like the programmed pauses while I tried them. You could just pull into the garage and plug in, and the charging would start later, but I was too worried about what was going on in the charger with the clicks to continue doing that.
I use a Tesla Mobile charging cable with a J1772 adaptor. I am actually used to that clicking sound and never realized that it is the charger checking on the car. :-)
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Old Mar 10, 2023 | 07:50 PM
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Agree with that. Coming from Teslas, I am still constantly struggling with the EQS interface. Can't start or stop charging from the app or the car screen...but most surprising - not only does charging lid not auto-close, there isn't even an option to close it from inside the car.
Our last car was a Taycan, and it also has its own list of oddities. To schedule a home charging profile actually involves two different setup screen. Once to turn on geolocation and then you can only set max charge when you create a timer. Took me a few days to figure it out. Why can't they design it so everything is under one profile with a max charge, location and charging time under one single screen and profile???
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Old Mar 10, 2023 | 08:09 PM
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Clearly these are established car companies that are now breaking into EV markets so they still have some the baggage. Tesla on the other hand was a brand new company that created a brand new segment, so much more forward thinking. To be clear - they have a lot of issues to sort out too (which is why we moved to Mercedes after several Tesla purchases). Wish we could combine the simplicity and usability of Tesla with the luxury quality and experience of Mercedes.
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Old Mar 11, 2023 | 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Tourbillon
I guess I will find out tonight when I try to charge. This is only the 3rd day we have the car and I charged with scheduled departure time last night. But I don't need the car to filter the air and pre-condition the cabin temperature especially when it is not plugged in.
You can find the selected/active charging profile any time. Just drive home, park the car and check e.g. from Mercedes me app if it has selected the Home profile.

All I want from the "Home profile" is to charge up to 80% only. On the hybrid the default profile has a fixed 100% charging level setting. If it was possible to change "default profile" to 80%, I wouldn't care about the home profile.

It probably is my wallbox but if I set a departure time, the hybrid actually starts to charge immediately and then preconditions the cabin for the departure time. Even if the car is still plugged, it does not precondition "from the plug" but from the battery. I have to split this to two, first charge the car, then unplug and plug again and set the departure time. I have a "non-branded" German wallbox and have not tried any other charger, not even the single phase Mercedes charger that came with the car.
EDIT: I just tried charging the car with home profile but the charging cable release disabled. Not sure if this was just random but now I was able to activate preconditioning after the charging session without unplugging and plugging the cable.

Originally Posted by rahulkapur
Agree with that. Coming from Teslas, I am still constantly struggling with the EQS interface. Can't start or stop charging from the app or the car screen...but most surprising - not only does charging lid not auto-close, there isn't even an option to close it from inside the car.
"Most surprising"? Perhaps me coming from ICE cars where the cap and flap anyway need to be closed manually, I would consider a zillion additions more important than automatic closing of the charger flaps (inner and outer). You anyway need to remove the charging cable manually from a Tesla too.

The MBUX generation Mercedes cars have a lot more freedom for individual preferences than older Mercedes models did but certainly many more would be welcome. Some even existed on the Mercedes but not any more.

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Originally Posted by Tourbillon
I use a Tesla Mobile charging cable with a J1772 adaptor. I am actually used to that clicking sound and never realized that it is the charger checking on the car. :-)
And it may not matter....who knows? I tried scheduling through the ChargePoint app itself. However, when I do that I get a charging error from the car when charging tries to start. There is just no comfortable way for me to pause charging with the current software/firmware on my car and charger.
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I have the charge point and have found no joy in setting it to start on time. I get a charging error but the funny thing is that the car gets charged. Then there are times that it does not work at all, so now I just plug it and let charge.
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