nik2shah

Hi All,

So we have purchased a pre-built EQS in the UK this month and judging by the US order guides we are at risk of missing out on some really cool features that will be included as standard such as the MBUX Hyperscreen.

We have purchased this separately but I am concerned there might be other features that we would be better off waiting for a couple of months for in the 2024 versions.

Does anyone happen to have the 2024 order guide for Europe or better still the UK available to help us decide whether to cancel this purchase and re-order in January?

Thanks in advance.

Eaton

https://tools.mercedes-benz.co.uk/cu...chures/eqs.pdf

eqs5804matic

The link belongs to the 2023 model, not 2024.

nik2shah

Yes, I noticed the same thing and just assumed that the 2024 models might be the same as the 2023 ones but please correct me if I am mistaken and there is more information on 2024 models somewhere.

Thanks for sharing anyway

bnzvett

Have they started production of the 2024 EQS yet? A local dealer mentioned that he hadn't received any news about his 2024 allocations. Also is there an equivalent Executive Interior Package - DB7 on the regular S class? I noticed that no price was listed and I wanted to get a ballpark. One more item, does anyone know what the Night Package - DC1 consists of?

Crito

MB in Plano TX claims to have a few of them in stock and ready to sell, for example:
https://www.mbplano.com/new/Mercedes...cb37dbec14.htm

But no pictures yet so according to Interwebz rulez it doesn't really exist.

BenjaminKohl

There's an early production 2024 EQS with drive pilot for sale in California, I haven't seen any other 2024s with pictures but I think they're on the way to dealerships. There's no equivilent to DB7 on the S; on the EQS it is just an alternative seat style. And DC1 includes nblacked out mirrors, bumper pieces, window surrounds, and side blades.

ivanvach

So disappointed by the lack of any mentioning of "Drive Pilot" after so much of media coverage and regulatory approval in CA and NV.
It is my understanding that Drive Pilot is available in Germany for a while now. So the technology is there and the regulators approved it here in CA. What is the show stopper now ?

Eaton

"Customer deliveries of DRIVE PILOT equipped Model Year 2024 EQS Sedan and S-Class models will be available in early 2024 through participating authorized Mercedes-Benz dealers in California and Nevada"

ivanvach

Says who ? Local dealers here in California are showing 2024 EQS inventory already at their web sites and I’m yet to see a single Drive Pilot enabled vehicle. Drive Pilot is missing from the 2024 ordering guide published here. If MB is to deliver it than it should’ve been included with an asterisk for CA and NV only.

Eaton

That quote is from last month's press release.

BenjaminKohl

I posted a thread a bit ago about one I saw for sale.

Tjdehya

https://mbworld.org/forums/eqs/88034...available.html

ivanvach

Interesting , available in a state that it is not legal to use and at the same time I can't find any here in Sothern California, where it is legal.

bnzvett

Contacted my local dealer again, still no allocations for the 2024 EQS 580. Also is it normal for Mercedes to wait before they switch the model year on their web site? mbusa.com is still showing and allowing users to build the 2023 EQS 580.

Eaton

Yes, every year it takes forever for them to update it.

sarhoshamiral

Does this mean it would be a 2nd quarter of 2024 essentially for deliveries?

Radman991

Funny, my 23 580 sedan had a built date of July 22.

ivanvach

Just talked to a local dealer in California about the availability of 2024 EQS and more particularly the Drive Pilot feature that is legal now in CA and NV.

He said that 2024 EQS will come mid April 2024.
Drive Pilot however will NOT be available until 2025. He mentioned that CA and NV roads and freeways are "not ready" for it yet. He also added that this is 150% confirmed information, inflating the percentage above 100% just to show solid confidence.
I countered that the technology (cameras, lidar, radar, sensors) is supposed to be inside the car and not on the road, but he insisted.

So folks this is the latest from me. Does anyone know more or different ?

Regards,

sarhoshamiral

One thing I know is to never trust what a dealer says. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if he told you that to push you towards buying one now and don't actually have any clue when DrivePilot will be available.

Saying that I personally wouldn't get one this time around anyway even if it was available in Washington. I would rarely have the chance to activate it and I don't foresee allowed usage expanding within next 2-3 years. The existing driver assistance for highway driving already does a really good job.

QuadBenz

I think this is false. There are already EQS sedans on dealer lots with the Drive Pilot hardware installed (free option btw, I think there's a subscription fee for the service). They began hitting dealer lots in the beginning of January.

Drive Pilot is fully legal in CA and NV. Not sure what he's talking about as far as the roads and freeways not being ready for it. Sounds like yet another salesperson who is drastically misinformed or undereducated.

BenjaminKohl

I've only seen Drive Pilot on one EQS so far but I haven't been looking incredibly hard and it was a relatively early production car, maybe they didn't mean to release it. Anyway, 2024 EQS Sedan;s are already all out, maybe he was confusing the release date for the EQS SUV which doesn't get Drive Pilot.

Eaton

Updated EPA range, range improved for MY24:

• EQS 580 4M & 450 4M: 345 miles
• EQS 450+: 352 miles

sarhoshamiral

That's really good improvement, I wonder if real-life will be a lot closer to EPA estimates now. If these continue to beat EPA estimates like 2023's did, we are talking about >370miles range now.

ivanvach

Well there are more updates about EQS MY2024

1. Uses heat pump for more efficient HVAC.
2. Decouples the front drivetrain when not used for increased efficiency (applicable to 4 matic models)
3. Larger battery for the SUV line. Not sure if some of the upscale sedans will get it as well.
4. Drive Pilot - First in the world Level 3 self driving system approved in CA and NV in the USA.

I'm yet to see MY2024 EQS sedan here in California. If someone has seen one please post the Window Sticker here. Mercedes is notorious for offering various features in various markets. While the above features are well documented online, it is possible that some of them may not make it to the US market.

As far as the range goes I was reaching 400 miles easily with my first 2022 EQS 450+ with summer tires and in good weather. I have 2023 EQS 450 4Matic now with all season tires. The 4 matic takes 5% and the tires take another 5% away from the range. So my range is easily 360 now. When I say "easily" I mean driving and accelerating and using brakes and air conditioning as I would normally without special attention to energy savings. If my goal was to focus on energy saving than 420 miles and 390 miles are achievable for the above models. I'm saying all that because the EPA ratings quoted above seem too low provided the energy savings features coming with MY2024.