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Old Nov 28, 2023 | 09:18 PM
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EQS 580 vs EQE AMG

Hi all, I am debating between leasing either of these. I test drove the 580 and liked it although it is a bit floaty. The luxury is great of course. The EQE AMG I am considering is loaded (125K) and the 580 is 135K (not pinnacle trim). I am coming out of a Lexus RCF so I do like cars that have more accuracy but miss some luxury. Do you guys think the EQE provides enough of a luxurious feel? It does not have the wraparound screen but that is not a deterrent for me although I do like it. Any thoughts are welcome from those who perhaps considered both. Thanks.
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Old Nov 28, 2023 | 10:01 PM
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Hi all, I am debating between leasing either of these. I test drove the 580 and liked it although it is a bit floaty. The luxury is great of course. The EQE AMG I am considering is loaded (125K) and the 580 is 135K (not pinnacle trim). I am coming out of a Lexus RCF so I do like cars that have more accuracy but miss some luxury. Do you guys think the EQE provides enough of a luxurious feel? It does not have the wraparound screen but that is not a deterrent for me although I do like it. Any thoughts are welcome from those who perhaps considered both. Thanks.
Just some feedback on the AMG EQS lease, it leases badly. The 3 year 7,500 miles per yr resid is 50%. Add in a lack of fleet incentive or discounts from dealers and you’re looking at a really really really bad AMG lease compared to a EQS 580 sedan.


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Old Nov 28, 2023 | 11:58 PM
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Just some feedback on the AMG EQS lease, it leases badly. The 3 year 7,500 miles per yr resid is 50%. Add in a lack of fleet incentive or discounts from dealers and you’re looking at a really really really bad AMG lease compared to a EQS 580 sedan.
I am comparing EQE AMG, not EQS, to EQS 580. EQS AMG I can get for a good lease comparatively but I don't want to pay that much....
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Old Nov 29, 2023 | 12:22 AM
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To me e vs s is all about the back seats. I rarely have a front passenger let alone anyone in the back so the EQE just made more sense, for me.
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Old Nov 29, 2023 | 12:45 AM
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It's a tough comparison, and coming from an RCF, I think you want a lighter car. I don't think the EQE is that much lighter than an EQS but maybe about 400 lbs. if you are OK with the 2 separate screens in the EQE, then go for that one. I have the EQS AMG, and coming from a 7er that weighs in at 4700ish lbs. you feel the weight of the EQS on curves. It's like driving an LX on rails. However, the direct drive will blow the doors off most traditional tranny vehicles.
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Old Nov 29, 2023 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MB37
It's a tough comparison, and coming from an RCF, I think you want a lighter car. I don't think the EQE is that much lighter than an EQS but maybe about 400 lbs. if you are OK with the 2 separate screens in the EQE, then go for that one. I have the EQS AMG, and coming from a 7er that weighs in at 4700ish lbs. you feel the weight of the EQS on curves. It's like driving an LX on rails. However, the direct drive will blow the doors off most traditional tranny vehicles.
Thank you for the feedback. I don't really mind heavy cars, but the 580 feels its size more than the EQS AMG. I did test drive one of those but the lease currently is still not all that great. Maybe next month, but don't know if I should wait as maybe deals will be worse... the EQS AMG was my first choice actually
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Old Nov 29, 2023 | 10:35 AM
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From the driving perspective, the AMG is a slightly sharper and slightly faster 580. Comfort is the same. The buggest issue is range. The AMG loses about 25% right off the top. In my area that 25% is crucial particularly in winter.
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Old Nov 29, 2023 | 11:40 AM
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few things
Range: EQS580 has more range vs EQE AMG
Rear seat comfort: EQS rear seat area is longer and wider.
Screen: EQS580 has hyper screen which is much luxury feel than EQE
Sportily: EQE AMG is sharper handling, faster too
Pricing: don't think there are too much difference.
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For better road bump absorption, the 275\40\21 is not great at all. I can't imagine what the 22". I think you have to go at least with xxx\45\xx to get a "smoother" ride. I drive daily in the part of downtown that has railroads, uneven road, cracks, manhole dips, and just about every terrible condition you can imagine for paved roads. Sadly, my car goes through a suspension exercise every morning. I was looking at the EQE AMG too, but the kiddo in the back made me changed my mind. If you don't care for the MBUX techy vs. Tesla, the MS Plaid is compelling when shopping for the EQE AMG.
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Originally Posted by guess2098
few things
Range: EQS580 has more range vs EQE AMG
Rear seat comfort: EQS rear seat area is longer and wider.
Screen: EQS580 has hyper screen which is much luxury feel than EQE
Sportily: EQE AMG is sharper handling, faster too
Pricing: don't think there are too much difference.
Oops got my AMG's mixed up. The EQE is significantly faster and more agile than the EQS. Its also more compact in the rear.....and..... it has a much shorter range. Personally I would not buy an EQE AMG in an area where long road trips were a day to day need. But it is the most "AMG" EQ you can get. Numberswise, it's an electric alternative to a gas E63.

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For better road bump absorption, the 275\40\21 is not great at all. I can't imagine what the 22". I think you have to go at least with xxx\45\xx to get a "smoother" ride. I drive daily in the part of downtown that has railroads, uneven road, cracks, manhole dips, and just about every terrible condition you can imagine for paved roads. Sadly, my car goes through a suspension exercise every morning. I was looking at the EQE AMG too, but the kiddo in the back made me changed my mind. If you don't care for the MBUX techy vs. Tesla, the MS Plaid is compelling when shopping for the EQE AMG.
I actually feel 275/40/21 is very good, 45 will make your car looks like an SUV. S-class and 7 series has 35 sidewall tire.
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Old Nov 29, 2023 | 03:48 PM
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I actually feel 275/40/21 is very good, 45 will make your car looks like an SUV. S-class and 7 series has 35 sidewall tire.
My 7er has 40 in the fronts and 35 in the rear with staggered setup. When I set it to comfort or comfort+, it's noticeably more smoother than the AMG's comfort setting. It also uses air suspension and has IAS and ARS (not sure if that makes any difference).

The AMG's comfort suspension is quite stiff. Additionally, the psi on the EQS calls for 38 psi in the front and 42 psi in the rear. I have 35 psi F and 38 psi R on the 7er.
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Old Dec 1, 2023 | 12:30 AM
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My choice would be EQS - just because trunk. I hate eqes how trunk is done - I know, reason is that EQE is too short for better hinge location. Buy EQS, maybe AMG 53?
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Old Dec 1, 2023 | 01:32 AM
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My choice would be EQS - just because trunk. I hate eqes how trunk is done - I know, reason is that EQE is too short for better hinge location. Buy EQS, maybe AMG 53?
Test drove both finally tonight. I like both but they are pretty different. The eqe amg handling is of course superior but I don't care for the non hyper screen in it. The 580 eqs is super nice and so smooth but not very engaging to drive plus it's really long. Yes I agree that the hatchback is way better than the trunk in the eqe
In any case I decided to wait and see if deals will be better in Dec. Hope I don't regret it
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40 is 40% of the width of tire
7 series and S class front 40 is not 275 wide. normally they are either 235 or 245 front. that is much shorter than 275/40.
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My 7er has 40 in the fronts and 35 in the rear with staggered setup. When I set it to comfort or comfort+, it's noticeably more smoother than the AMG's comfort setting. It also uses air suspension and has IAS and ARS (not sure if that makes any difference).

The AMG's comfort suspension is quite stiff. Additionally, the psi on the EQS calls for 38 psi in the front and 42 psi in the rear. I have 35 psi F and 38 psi R on the 7er.
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Old Dec 2, 2023 | 09:21 AM
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for those of you with the one giant screen - do you suffer from reflection issues? I have very sensitive eyes. I probably can turn it off most of the time, but my concern is that it will then become a giant 'mirror' thus prone to light reflections.
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for those of you with the one giant screen - do you suffer from reflection issues? I have very sensitive eyes. I probably can turn it off most of the time, but my concern is that it will then become a giant 'mirror' thus prone to light reflections.
I have the hyperscreen on my EQE SUV and so far, glare has not been a problem. BUT...I need to qualify that with the fact that I only took delivery of the car a month ago and we currently have mostly short, grey days where I live.
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for those of you with the one giant screen - do you suffer from reflection issues? I have very sensitive eyes. I probably can turn it off most of the time, but my concern is that it will then become a giant 'mirror' thus prone to light reflections.
Yes, from the sun. in certain angle when sunlight come in from passenger's window and reflect to my eye. so only happen when your heading north or south and sun in your right.
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Yes, from the sun. in certain angle when sunlight come in from passenger's window and reflect to my eye. so only happen when your heading north or south and sun in your right.
OK, so as long as I don't travel north or south in the sun, I should be fine I will test drive again but during the day.
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Our EQS 580 SUV of course has the Hyperscreen and after 18 months I can say we have no issues with glare. I wouldn’t buy another EQ model without a Hyperscreen.
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Just some feedback on the AMG EQS lease, it leases badly. The 3 year 7,500 miles per yr resid is 50%. Add in a lack of fleet incentive or discounts from dealers and you’re looking at a really really really bad AMG lease compared to a EQS 580 sedan.


Just a quick update on something I said a few months ago. This month, the 2023 AMG EQS is leasing amazingly well for consumers. Mercedes is trying to blow out the remaining stock of 2023 AMG EQS. The EQS 580 Sedan is still slightly cheaper, but there isn't such a huge chasm between the AMG and 580 EQS Sedans as before.

California residents should be able to get into a reasonable AMG EQS configuration (around $160k MSRP) for about $875 monthly effective (payment plus amortizing up front due at signing costs over the life of the lease). I don't know how things are looking elsewhere in the USA, but I suspect the deals could be similar.
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