Conflicting info on the web
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Please, can a few EQS owners speak about extended time in heavy stop and go traffic and its impact on range.
In very hot, very cold and then non climate control conditions.
I searched the web and amazingly there is about an equal split on claims of lost range vs gained range vs no impact on EV's...
The owners here should be able to set me straight.. I spend time in LA and houston ... houston stop and go is bad..but LA is on a whole nuth'r level... wondering what to expect with an EQS
In very hot, very cold and then non climate control conditions.
I searched the web and amazingly there is about an equal split on claims of lost range vs gained range vs no impact on EV's...
The owners here should be able to set me straight.. I spend time in LA and houston ... houston stop and go is bad..but LA is on a whole nuth'r level... wondering what to expect with an EQS
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EVs in general (and my EQS 580 SUV in particular) love stop-and-go traffic. The Distronic adaptive cruise control handles this well. And you probably get just about the best range in these conditions (though of course it'd take you a long long time).
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stop and go traffic is bad for ALL the vehicles. more wear on tire and brake, consume more energy/gas
EV and hybrid are more efficient than ICE car under stop and go condition but not benefit.
EV and hybrid are more efficient than ICE car under stop and go condition but not benefit.
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Right, but the OP was asking specifically about range. The range of the EQS (and other EVs) in stop-and-go traffic would be almost as good as you could get; the only situation that would give you better range would be continuous low-speed driving. Unless it's very cold (or very hot) outside, in which case your cabin heater (or A/C) hurts your range due to you having to sit in the car for longer.
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I'm gonna say it depends how much time you spend stopped and how much time you spend going. Consumption stopped is infinity wh/mi. If you want to save the planet hire people with enough brains to time two traffic lights in a row.
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The low speed consumption will be a combination of as you point out HVAC load and the point that Crito is making that it is also a function of how long you sit around. An EV will also have electrical overhead beyond HVAC. Any nonzero number divided by zero will be infinite.
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So, if the Ambient didn't require climate control, then a 60 mile stop and go (LA) would provide more range than the same trip/conditions at 65mph?
Then i assume you reduce range by some percent (6% or?) for AC..... and maybe 15-20% for heat.
i assume that the battery requirement for resistive heating plus a much greater heating temperature delta ( i.e. 30 to 70 = 40 degree increase vs 95 to 70 = 25 decrease for AC) will result in greater decrease in range for heating... in addition to the cold battery range loss.
then there is.... how long in traffic.... the range percentage loss should continually increase as the stop and go time lengthens... definitely interesting
Ironically, when you think about it, ICE vehicles have the exact same issue with regard to decreased range when in stop and go... and we have all just lived with it....now for some reason i need to know....funny...
at the end of the day, you watch your battery level just like your fuel gauge i guess.... you learn...and you live with it
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Then i assume you reduce range by some percent (6% or?) for AC..... and maybe 15-20% for heat.
i assume that the battery requirement for resistive heating plus a much greater heating temperature delta ( i.e. 30 to 70 = 40 degree increase vs 95 to 70 = 25 decrease for AC) will result in greater decrease in range for heating... in addition to the cold battery range loss.
then there is.... how long in traffic.... the range percentage loss should continually increase as the stop and go time lengthens... definitely interesting
Ironically, when you think about it, ICE vehicles have the exact same issue with regard to decreased range when in stop and go... and we have all just lived with it....now for some reason i need to know....funny...
at the end of the day, you watch your battery level just like your fuel gauge i guess.... you learn...and you live with it
Thanks folks
The low speed consumption will be a combination of as you point out HVAC load and the point that Crito is making that it is also a function of how long you sit around. An EV will also have electrical overhead beyond HVAC. Any nonzero number divided by zero will be infinite.
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Don't forget that short trips will have greater consumption as the car is less efficient until the battery get up to temperature. Since short trips tend to be stop and go, this could factor into the equation. I get best range on my normal 12 mile commute on city streets, but not high traffic conditions.
