EQS AMG Underestimated
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23' EQS AMG
EQS AMG Underestimated
The 22-23" EQS AMG range was estimated at 277 miles despite having the same HV battery capacity as the 580. For 2024, I read somewhere that the AMG estimate increased to 300 miles.
I have a 23' April production date, and I've been charging to 80%, and only one time did I get 254 miles estimates (100% would be 317 miles). Most of the time, I get 264, 271, 275, 284, etc. miles at 80%, which translate to 330-355 miles on a 100% charge. I get that the AMG motors are slightly different from the 580 motors, but I guess that if you can baby the output of an AMG, you can achieve the range of the 580. My daily drive of 77-82 mph freeway with 30-35 mph stop/go city. It averages out to 30-35 mph daily trips. I do take advantage of the torque sometimes for fun but not every chance I get.
I charge eco and at home only, and I charge when SoC is below 35-40%. If I can keep this up for 10 years and lose 10% capacity, I'll be a happy camper.
I have a 23' April production date, and I've been charging to 80%, and only one time did I get 254 miles estimates (100% would be 317 miles). Most of the time, I get 264, 271, 275, 284, etc. miles at 80%, which translate to 330-355 miles on a 100% charge. I get that the AMG motors are slightly different from the 580 motors, but I guess that if you can baby the output of an AMG, you can achieve the range of the 580. My daily drive of 77-82 mph freeway with 30-35 mph stop/go city. It averages out to 30-35 mph daily trips. I do take advantage of the torque sometimes for fun but not every chance I get.
I charge eco and at home only, and I charge when SoC is below 35-40%. If I can keep this up for 10 years and lose 10% capacity, I'll be a happy camper.
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I asked this question before and a member posted a video from YouTuber, the difference between 580 and amg is small. although EPA is like 50 miles off.
also per Porsche taycan, range between 4 and turbo S are only 20 miles. HP are about 350HP difference.
MY24 Taycan 4S Performance Battery Plus 235mi, HP 402
MY24 Taycan GTS 246
MY24 Taycan Turbo 238
MY24 Taycan Turbo S 222mi, HP 750
I think for EV, motor output doesnt mean less range. as we can control the input, unlike ICE engine.
however, when the number of motor increases, range decrease.
also per Porsche taycan, range between 4 and turbo S are only 20 miles. HP are about 350HP difference.
MY24 Taycan 4S Performance Battery Plus 235mi, HP 402
MY24 Taycan GTS 246
MY24 Taycan Turbo 238
MY24 Taycan Turbo S 222mi, HP 750
I think for EV, motor output doesnt mean less range. as we can control the input, unlike ICE engine.
however, when the number of motor increases, range decrease.
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23' EQS AMG
I asked this question before and a member posted a video from YouTuber, the difference between 580 and amg is small. although EPA is like 50 miles off.
also per Porsche taycan, range between 4 and turbo S are only 20 miles. HP are about 350HP difference.
MY24 Taycan 4S Performance Battery Plus 235mi, HP 402
MY24 Taycan GTS 246
MY24 Taycan Turbo 238
MY24 Taycan Turbo S 222mi, HP 750
I think for EV, motor output doesnt mean less range. as we can control the input, unlike ICE engine.
however, when the number of motor increases, range decrease.
also per Porsche taycan, range between 4 and turbo S are only 20 miles. HP are about 350HP difference.
MY24 Taycan 4S Performance Battery Plus 235mi, HP 402
MY24 Taycan GTS 246
MY24 Taycan Turbo 238
MY24 Taycan Turbo S 222mi, HP 750
I think for EV, motor output doesnt mean less range. as we can control the input, unlike ICE engine.
however, when the number of motor increases, range decrease.
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Interesting discussion. As a 450+ owner, with one motor, I feel I have plenty of torque for acceleration in most everyday situations (this car is faster than the E350 is used to own). I cannot drag race other multiple motor EVs, but can wax many ICE vehicles easily. I regularly get 360 miles on 80% charge, and more than 400 on 100% (420 or so). I'm wondering, if you have to turn motors off, why one would purchase them? Don't get me wrong.....I've owned a Porsche, a BMW M4, and a BMW M550. I understand horsepower and acceleration. I just have moved beyond that dynamic, and enjoy geting 4.5mpkWh, etc, and thinking about all the emissions I'm saving while relaxing in quiet with the Burmester raging. Am I just getting old, or what?
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I believe it depends on the type of electric motor. The induction motors in the EQC don't need a disconnect unit like the permanent magnets motors in my EQE 500. Or you could do what Tesla does and use a powerful permanent in the back and an efficient induction in the front which would give you great performance and the ability to "freewheel" the front motor to maximize range.
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Interesting discussion. As a 450+ owner, with one motor, I feel I have plenty of torque for acceleration in most everyday situations (this car is faster than the E350 is used to own). I cannot drag race other multiple motor EVs, but can wax many ICE vehicles easily. I regularly get 360 miles on 80% charge, and more than 400 on 100% (420 or so). I'm wondering, if you have to turn motors off, why one would purchase them? Don't get me wrong.....I've owned a Porsche, a BMW M4, and a BMW M550. I understand horsepower and acceleration. I just have moved beyond that dynamic, and enjoy geting 4.5mpkWh, etc, and thinking about all the emissions I'm saving while relaxing in quiet with the Burmester raging. Am I just getting old, or what?
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Interesting discussion. As a 450+ owner, with one motor, I feel I have plenty of torque for acceleration in most everyday situations (this car is faster than the E350 is used to own). I cannot drag race other multiple motor EVs, but can wax many ICE vehicles easily. I regularly get 360 miles on 80% charge, and more than 400 on 100% (420 or so). I'm wondering, if you have to turn motors off, why one would purchase them? Don't get me wrong.....I've owned a Porsche, a BMW M4, and a BMW M550. I understand horsepower and acceleration. I just have moved beyond that dynamic, and enjoy geting 4.5mpkWh, etc, and thinking about all the emissions I'm saving while relaxing in quiet with the Burmester raging. Am I just getting old, or what?
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The persona of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde in a single vehicle has always been intriguing to me. I think the EQS AMG fits it well out of the box. The real sleeper. The John Wick suit.
Driving it like grandma, you win in comfort, luxury, and quietness. Drive it like a chauffeur, you get it there for the back seat passengers. Drive it like a GTR or any sports car, you have it too. The low center of gravity, the acceleration, and the performance. The best part is you can switch it on a dime. By the time an 450+HP ICE driver downshifts, I'm already 3-4 car lengths out. Street racing is over rated, dangerous to others, and highly not recommended. But if you need to carve a path in a light to semi congested traffic, the EV is perfect for the job without accidentally offending anyone.
Driving it like grandma, you win in comfort, luxury, and quietness. Drive it like a chauffeur, you get it there for the back seat passengers. Drive it like a GTR or any sports car, you have it too. The low center of gravity, the acceleration, and the performance. The best part is you can switch it on a dime. By the time an 450+HP ICE driver downshifts, I'm already 3-4 car lengths out. Street racing is over rated, dangerous to others, and highly not recommended. But if you need to carve a path in a light to semi congested traffic, the EV is perfect for the job without accidentally offending anyone.
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This is a fleeting window so enjoy it while you can. In ~5 years the majority of cars may be EV's with similar performance characteristics.
