CCS Adfapter
Has anyone tried the Lectron NACS to CCS adapter-Vortex? Until Tesla release the Superchargers for MB use, can the Lectron be used on NACS Tesla non-superchargers?
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Originally Posted by babrams
(Post 8949708)
Has anyone tried the Lectron NACS to CCS adapter-Vortex? Until Tesla release the Superchargers for MB use, can the Lectron be used on NACS Tesla non-superchargers?
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Thanks Lazaru5 for the info.
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Can't charge at a Tesla supercharger until Tesla allows it and there is a software update for the car. A few people have tried other vehicles and the Tesla app says "unauthorized vehicles".
For Tesla destination charger (level 2 charging), you'd need one of these: https://ev-lectron.com/products/lect...-adapter-white https://ev-lectron.com/products/lect...nnectors-black There are also many other brands that make this adapter. |
Originally Posted by babrams
(Post 8949708)
Has anyone tried the Lectron NACS to CCS adapter-Vortex? Until Tesla release the Superchargers for MB use, can the Lectron be used on NACS Tesla non-superchargers?
Thanks The issue is and always has been software. The form factor of the plug has never been a problem. If Tesla had enabled all their chargers to use the "magic dock" software you could simply use a third party adapter. But no, like Apple, they simply want to make it as hard as possible for others to use their system and for the other manufacturers to pay licensing fees. Which BTW is the same reason I have never bought an Apple product. |
Originally Posted by c4004matic
(Post 8950470)
Simple answer....NO.
The issue is and always has been software. The form factor of the plug has never been a problem. If Tesla had enabled all their chargers to use the "magic dock" software you could simply use a third party adapter. But no, like Apple, they simply want to make it as hard as possible for others to use their system and for the other manufacturers to pay licensing fees. Which BTW is the same reason I have never bought an Apple product. |
Originally Posted by GrayA
(Post 8950510)
With Ford and Rivian who now have access, they install software so that you can plug and charge and it also handles the payment info, since Tesla Superchargers don't have a screen nor credit card reader.
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Originally Posted by c4004matic
(Post 8950574)
Yes but its brand specific. MB will be later this year. Note, not all superchargers will be available even then. My guess is the ones that are will show up on the MB nav.
You can see the ones that will be available at https://www.tesla.com/findus Select only "Superchargers open to NACS" |
I have heard good things about this brand. I just ordered it. The build quality seems better than the Lectron but the Lectron has an auto lock vs manual lock. He did say it felt better built than the Tesla adapter which is what mercedes will give us.
https://a2zevshop.com I don't trust lectron although the reviews for that are good too. |
Originally Posted by stealth.pilot
(Post 8952083)
I have heard good things about this brand. I just ordered it.
https://a2zevshop.com I don't trust lectron. |
The reason Ford and Rivian owners are buying them even though they will eventually get them for free is that want to use Tesla superchargers now. Adapter inventory is low and it is taking months to get them. However, perhaps that will be corrected by the time MB is eligible.
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Originally Posted by c4004matic
(Post 8952089)
Wait for the Tesla one. If MB follows the other manufacturers, you will receive a FREE one in the mail. Its made Tesla and its exactly the adapter from the Tesla magic dock chargers.
the products we are discussing in this thread are higher quality ones. Not like the ones on Amazon. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...ed367b3529.png |
Originally Posted by c4004matic
(Post 8950470)
Simple answer....NO.
The issue is and always has been software. The form factor of the plug has never been a problem. If Tesla had enabled all their chargers to use the "magic dock" software you could simply use a third party adapter. But no, like Apple, they simply want to make it as hard as possible for others to use their system and for the other manufacturers to pay licensing fees. Which BTW is the same reason I have never bought an Apple product. Boycotting Apple products is like saying you are flying coach all the time because you want to stick it to the airlines by not paying the higher cost per seat mile of first class. |
Originally Posted by c4004matic
(Post 8950470)
Simple answer....NO.
The issue is and always has been software. The form factor of the plug has never been a problem. If Tesla had enabled all their chargers to use the "magic dock" software you could simply use a third party adapter. But no, like Apple, they simply want to make it as hard as possible for others to use their system and for the other manufacturers to pay licensing fees. Which BTW is the same reason I have never bought an Apple product. Btw, no one beats Apple on security and privacy. I absolutely love Apple products but to each his own. |
Apple "makes" (designs really, TSMC makes) the best ARM processors and iOS on an iPad has the best touch interface on the planet. Unfortunately you have to buy into their whole "ecosystem" which is the part I hate. I want to use an Android phone and a Linux laptop with my iPad and that doesn't work so well. Tesla seemed like they were going down the same proprietary road but opening up NACS and their charging network goes a long way to making things right, IMVHO.
According to ISO/IEC 2382-01, Information Technology Vocabulary, Fundamental Terms, interoperability is defined as follows: "The capability to communicate, execute programs, or transfer data among various functional units in a manner that requires the user to have little or no knowledge of the unique characteristics of those units" |
Which adapter preferred for Tesla destination use?
Originally Posted by GrayA
(Post 8950386)
Can't charge at a Tesla supercharger until Tesla allows it and there is a software update for the car. A few people have tried other vehicles and the Tesla app says "unauthorized vehicles".
For Tesla destination charger (level 2 charging), you'd need one of these: https://ev-lectron.com/products/lect...-adapter-white https://ev-lectron.com/products/lect...nnectors-black There are also many other brands that make this adapter. |
Originally Posted by Flashwa
(Post 8954842)
which of the two suggested is preferable? Do you know how many estimated miles you get an hour at a Tesla destination charger? Are these the Tesla chargers that are at hotels? Do you have to be staying at that hotel to use them? I ask bc we are planning a roadtrip. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Flashwa
(Post 8954842)
which of the two suggested is preferable? Do you know how many estimated miles you get an hour at a Tesla destination charger? Are these the Tesla chargers that are at hotels? Do you have to be staying at that hotel to use them? I ask bc we are planning a roadtrip. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by GrayA
(Post 8955033)
Others can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the EQS has a 40A max charge rate for level 2 charging, so it's better to save money and buy the 40A one for $99. There are also many cheaper ones on Amazon. Search for "tesla to j1772". Yes, they can be used at Tesla chargers at hotels.
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Originally Posted by c4004matic
(Post 8955050)
In fact, no. Tesla has 50A level 2 chargers thus, even though the EQS only chargers a 40A amp adapter will not work with those.
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Originally Posted by GrayA
(Post 8955183)
It won't pull at 40A with the 40A adapter even though the charger is 50A? In that case, buy a 50A adapter.
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