babrams

Has anyone tried the Lectron NACS to CCS adapter-Vortex? Until Tesla release the Superchargers for MB use, can the Lectron be used on NACS Tesla non-superchargers?
Thanks

LAZARU5

I received the Vortex adapter this week. It only works with the Tesla Superchargers. It will not work with a Tesla destination charger. I won't be able to try it with my EQS SUV until the MB/Tesla agreement is finalized. I hope to try it with a friend's GM EV soon.

babrams

Thanks Lazaru5 for the info.

GrayA

Can't charge at a Tesla supercharger until Tesla allows it and there is a software update for the car. A few people have tried other vehicles and the Tesla app says "unauthorized vehicles".

For Tesla destination charger (level 2 charging), you'd need one of these:

https://ev-lectron.com/products/lect...-adapter-white

https://ev-lectron.com/products/lect...nnectors-black

There are also many other brands that make this adapter.

c4004matic

Simple answer....NO.
The issue is and always has been software. The form factor of the plug has never been a problem. If Tesla had enabled all their chargers to use the "magic dock" software you could simply use a third party adapter. But no, like Apple, they simply want to make it as hard as possible for others to use their system and for the other manufacturers to pay licensing fees. Which BTW is the same reason I have never bought an Apple product.

GrayA

With Ford and Rivian who now have access, they install software so that you can plug and charge and it also handles the payment info, since Tesla Superchargers don't have a screen nor credit card reader.

c4004matic

Yes but its brand specific. MB will be later this year. Note, not all superchargers will be available even then. My guess is the ones that are will show up on the MB nav.

GrayA

Yeah, if they follow Ford and Rivian, they will show up in the MB nav and they will give free adapters. For both of the automakers, the adapters were made by Tesla.

You can see the ones that will be available at https://www.tesla.com/findus

Select only "Superchargers open to NACS"

stealth.pilot

I have heard good things about this brand. I just ordered it. The build quality seems better than the Lectron but the Lectron has an auto lock vs manual lock. He did say it felt better built than the Tesla adapter which is what mercedes will give us.

https://a2zevshop.com

I don't trust lectron although the reviews for that are good too.

c4004matic

Wait for the Tesla one. If MB follows the other manufacturers, you will receive a FREE one in the mail. Its made Tesla and its exactly the adapter from the Tesla magic dock chargers.

GrayA

The reason Ford and Rivian owners are buying them even though they will eventually get them for free is that want to use Tesla superchargers now. Adapter inventory is low and it is taking months to get them. However, perhaps that will be corrected by the time MB is eligible.

stealth.pilot

the wait could be a while. I got the invite from Rivian and they couldn’t say when it would ship even though the invites are staged. Sounded like months not weeks.

the products we are discussing in this thread are higher quality ones. Not like the ones on Amazon.

stealth.pilot

Yeah but Apple products work flawlessly in a way that those more liberal ecosystems like the PC do not.

Boycotting Apple products is like saying you are flying coach all the time because you want to stick it to the airlines by not paying the higher cost per seat mile of first class.

AppleFan1

My son had the same feelings about Apple as you have. However, he decided to try out the new iPhone. Now he also has a Mac and his twin daughters have iPads and iPhones. To make a long story short, he loves it. They also subscribe to Apple TV+ which has some extraordinary shows.
Btw, no one beats Apple on security and privacy. I absolutely love Apple products but to each his own.

Crito

Apple "makes" (designs really, TSMC makes) the best ARM processors and iOS on an iPad has the best touch interface on the planet. Unfortunately you have to buy into their whole "ecosystem" which is the part I hate. I want to use an Android phone and a Linux laptop with my iPad and that doesn't work so well. Tesla seemed like they were going down the same proprietary road but opening up NACS and their charging network goes a long way to making things right, IMVHO.

Flashwa

which of the two suggested is preferable? Do you know how many estimated miles you get an hour at a Tesla destination charger? Are these the Tesla chargers that are at hotels? Do you have to be staying at that hotel to use them? I ask bc we are planning a roadtrip. Thanks!

c4004matic

The destination chargers charge at 8.6 max as far as I can tell (my expierience). At a hotel, overnight you can charge 100%

GrayA

Others can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the EQS has a 40A max charge rate for level 2 charging, so it's better to save money and buy the 40A one for $99. There are also many cheaper ones on Amazon. Search for "tesla to j1772". Yes, they can be used at Tesla chargers at hotels.

c4004matic

In fact, no. Tesla has 50A level 2 chargers thus, even though the EQS only chargers a 40A amp adapter will not work with those.

GrayA

It won't pull at 40A with the 40A adapter even though the charger is 50A? In that case, buy a 50A adapter.

c4004matic

stare of charge has a good vid on why its a no-no.