Do Not Buy: Freedom Warranty
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Do Not Buy: Freedom Warranty
Putting this in the MB thread, even though my issue was Porsche related, since they sell to all brands and High Line is a vendor here.
I purchased a Porsche Panamera TurboS in November 2023, it was a one owner car bought and serviced its whole life at Porsche Livermore with only 53k miles. Gorgeous spec and options.
After checking around on various forums for warranty options I was given Trenton at Highline Auto’s info and purchased an extended warranty on the car from Freedom.
Fast forward 5 months and the car is getting a sensor service light. I take it into Porsche Reno and through a long trouble shooting process with Porsche NA they ultimately determine the sensor, solenoid, and oil pump are faulty and need. replacement. They open a claim with Freedom and the fun starts.
First freedom claims that they cannot honor the claim as the car did not have an oil change within 30 days of purchase. Buried in the fine print is language that your warranty is void if you do not do this. Slimy yes, but I also fault Trenton for not point this out, while annoying would have been fine to get done. However, the car was fully serviced when I purchased, including oil, so I sent them the purchase contract which they said would be sufficient.
Three days later claim is denied. I contact them again and they now claim it was denied because I did not submit proper service records. I explain I submitted what they asked for and was told well they needly more. So I contact Porsche Livermore who sends me all the records, the car is impeccably maintained with 10k mile services up to the day I bought it. I send those into Freedom and wait a few more days. Claim denied again.
I talk to a manager that states they cannot reopen a claim once denied and that they cannot do anything about the repair as I did not submit sufficient records. Even though the records I submitted were the ones they requested.
Freedom intentionally asked for the bare minimum in records and then denied the claim, then hiding behind their “policy that they don’t review claims again after they are denied and you cannot open a new claim for the same part. They have no appeal process or anyone you can speak too. They let me know if I was unhappy I could reach out to their legal team who can “explain” the contract.
After lots of fighting, Freedom then agreed to cover the oil pump, but refused to cover the sensor and solenoid, which they had already approved, claiming “misdiagnoses” on the part of the dealership. It makes no difference to them that the diagnosis process followed was provided to Porsche Reno by Porsche NA (which is part of the reason why the car has been there so long). Ultimately, the warranty company used every excuse they could find in the contract to deny the claim and not pay. First maintenance, then no oil change in 30 days, then not enough detail from the dealer, then misdiagnosis. The fact of the matter is that they just didn’t want to pay and took awhile to find an excuse they could make stick.
Also, they are an absolute pain to deal with, no one is able to get ahold of anyone at Freedom, except Trent. Which is odd for just being a sales person, seems to be more to that relationship than is being let on.
In the end, I would never purchase a product from Freedom. They will screw you over. I also would never purchase a product from Trent and Highline, his group is not the type of vendor we need in the aftermarket community.
There are better warranty groups out there, why risk your money with Freedom and avoid the headache.
I purchased a Porsche Panamera TurboS in November 2023, it was a one owner car bought and serviced its whole life at Porsche Livermore with only 53k miles. Gorgeous spec and options.
After checking around on various forums for warranty options I was given Trenton at Highline Auto’s info and purchased an extended warranty on the car from Freedom.
Fast forward 5 months and the car is getting a sensor service light. I take it into Porsche Reno and through a long trouble shooting process with Porsche NA they ultimately determine the sensor, solenoid, and oil pump are faulty and need. replacement. They open a claim with Freedom and the fun starts.
First freedom claims that they cannot honor the claim as the car did not have an oil change within 30 days of purchase. Buried in the fine print is language that your warranty is void if you do not do this. Slimy yes, but I also fault Trenton for not point this out, while annoying would have been fine to get done. However, the car was fully serviced when I purchased, including oil, so I sent them the purchase contract which they said would be sufficient.
Three days later claim is denied. I contact them again and they now claim it was denied because I did not submit proper service records. I explain I submitted what they asked for and was told well they needly more. So I contact Porsche Livermore who sends me all the records, the car is impeccably maintained with 10k mile services up to the day I bought it. I send those into Freedom and wait a few more days. Claim denied again.
I talk to a manager that states they cannot reopen a claim once denied and that they cannot do anything about the repair as I did not submit sufficient records. Even though the records I submitted were the ones they requested.
Freedom intentionally asked for the bare minimum in records and then denied the claim, then hiding behind their “policy that they don’t review claims again after they are denied and you cannot open a new claim for the same part. They have no appeal process or anyone you can speak too. They let me know if I was unhappy I could reach out to their legal team who can “explain” the contract.
After lots of fighting, Freedom then agreed to cover the oil pump, but refused to cover the sensor and solenoid, which they had already approved, claiming “misdiagnoses” on the part of the dealership. It makes no difference to them that the diagnosis process followed was provided to Porsche Reno by Porsche NA (which is part of the reason why the car has been there so long). Ultimately, the warranty company used every excuse they could find in the contract to deny the claim and not pay. First maintenance, then no oil change in 30 days, then not enough detail from the dealer, then misdiagnosis. The fact of the matter is that they just didn’t want to pay and took awhile to find an excuse they could make stick.
Also, they are an absolute pain to deal with, no one is able to get ahold of anyone at Freedom, except Trent. Which is odd for just being a sales person, seems to be more to that relationship than is being let on.
In the end, I would never purchase a product from Freedom. They will screw you over. I also would never purchase a product from Trent and Highline, his group is not the type of vendor we need in the aftermarket community.
There are better warranty groups out there, why risk your money with Freedom and avoid the headache.
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Customer has received a 254.42% return on his initial investment of the warranty.
Timeline of Events.
04/01 - Repair Order #1 (Oil Pressure Sender) Submitted by Service Advisor #1 - ($926) Approved
04/11 - Repair Order #2 (Oil Pressure Regulator) Submitted by Service Advisor #1 - ($1,155) Approved
04/12 - 06/02 Service Advisor is no longer with the dealership and Service Advisor #2 has taken over
06/02 - Repair Order #3 (Oil Pump) Submitted by Service Advisor #2 - Freedom Warranty has some questions. ($10,463)
My involvement in helping this customer from when the claim was dead at $2,082, to receiving $6,884.74 in repairs.
“Section 7: Claims Procedure
3. We will not cover misdiagnosis or repairs done for process of elimination purposes to reach correct diagnosis.”
Trenton O. Gibson
tgibson@highline-autos.com
Highline Autos
Direct: 602.909.9216
Office: 480.348.0777
Timeline of Events.
04/01 - Repair Order #1 (Oil Pressure Sender) Submitted by Service Advisor #1 - ($926) Approved
04/11 - Repair Order #2 (Oil Pressure Regulator) Submitted by Service Advisor #1 - ($1,155) Approved
04/12 - 06/02 Service Advisor is no longer with the dealership and Service Advisor #2 has taken over
06/02 - Repair Order #3 (Oil Pump) Submitted by Service Advisor #2 - Freedom Warranty has some questions. ($10,463)
My involvement in helping this customer from when the claim was dead at $2,082, to receiving $6,884.74 in repairs.
“Section 7: Claims Procedure
3. We will not cover misdiagnosis or repairs done for process of elimination purposes to reach correct diagnosis.”
Trenton O. Gibson
tgibson@highline-autos.com
Highline Autos
Direct: 602.909.9216
Office: 480.348.0777
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Customer has received a 254.42% return on his initial investment of the warranty.
“Section 7: Claims Procedure
3. We will not cover misdiagnosis or repairs done for process of elimination purposes to reach correct diagnosis.”
Trenton O. Gibson
tgibson@highline-autos.com
Highline Autos
Direct: 602.909.9216
Office: 480.348.0777
“Section 7: Claims Procedure
3. We will not cover misdiagnosis or repairs done for process of elimination purposes to reach correct diagnosis.”
Trenton O. Gibson
tgibson@highline-autos.com
Highline Autos
Direct: 602.909.9216
Office: 480.348.0777
First the oil sensor then Oil regulator then Oil pump then this then that, i mean WTH is that?
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I have a Fidelity warranty on my E63s wagon for 4 years and couple of times I had few issues that were resolved without any further investigations. Had I told them I had a warranty, they would have definately tapped into it. I am sure extended warranties to dealers is probably like seeing an open cheque book LOL
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I have a Fidelity warranty on my E63s wagon for 4 years and couple of times I had few issues that were resolved without any further investigations. Had I told them I had a warranty, they would have definately tapped into it. I am sure extended warranties to dealers is probably like seeing an open cheque book LOL
I had a Fidelity warranty before this, I had zero issues. Should have gone that route again, live and learn. Hope no one else makes my mistake and wastes any money on this slime bag company.
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dude if it’s a provision why wouldn’t you tell him he needs an oil change. He sent you the records and it’s probably on the car fax. This is nuts. You’re a slime ball.
Customer has received a 254.42% return on his initial investment of the warranty.
Timeline of Events.
04/01 - Repair Order #1 (Oil Pressure Sender) Submitted by Service Advisor #1 - ($926) Approved
04/11 - Repair Order #2 (Oil Pressure Regulator) Submitted by Service Advisor #1 - ($1,155) Approved
04/12 - 06/02 Service Advisor is no longer with the dealership and Service Advisor #2 has taken over
06/02 - Repair Order #3 (Oil Pump) Submitted by Service Advisor #2 - Freedom Warranty has some questions. ($10,463)
My involvement in helping this customer from when the claim was dead at $2,082, to receiving $6,884.74 in repairs
“Section 7: Claims Procedure
3. We will not cover misdiagnosis or repairs done for process of elimination purposes to reach correct diagnosis.”
Trenton O. Gibson
tgibson@highline-autos.com
Highline Autos
Direct: 602.909.9216
Office: 480.348.0777
Timeline of Events.
04/01 - Repair Order #1 (Oil Pressure Sender) Submitted by Service Advisor #1 - ($926) Approved
04/11 - Repair Order #2 (Oil Pressure Regulator) Submitted by Service Advisor #1 - ($1,155) Approved
04/12 - 06/02 Service Advisor is no longer with the dealership and Service Advisor #2 has taken over
06/02 - Repair Order #3 (Oil Pump) Submitted by Service Advisor #2 - Freedom Warranty has some questions. ($10,463)
My involvement in helping this customer from when the claim was dead at $2,082, to receiving $6,884.74 in repairs
“Section 7: Claims Procedure
3. We will not cover misdiagnosis or repairs done for process of elimination purposes to reach correct diagnosis.”
Trenton O. Gibson
tgibson@highline-autos.com
Highline Autos
Direct: 602.909.9216
Office: 480.348.0777
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tgibson@highline-autos.com
Highline Autos
Direct: 602.909.9216
Office: 480.348.0777
