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Old 11-17-2019, 01:47 AM
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Hi - my truck has 37,000 miles on it. The eBay item number is 133161807809 and there are plenty of photos there.

Hi, but did you take pictures of the rust while the door was on the truck?
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just stumbled across a nice 2014 G63 w/ 41k on the clock that I really liked the spec. First 20k miles in FL (no salt), second 20k miles in NY (1/2017 - now). Zoomed into the pics and bubbling already around rear/trunk top hinge. Rust bubbling and about to flake off paint in 20k miles and less that 2 years (2 winters) of a salt region. Ridiculous

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What's the garage history of the truck?

I agree that anything built in the modern era regardless of price should not have these fails. Certainly concerning and I will be paying attention to my 2018. It's garage kept and we don't drive it too much so maybe that helps but still concerning. Sounds inevitable. I'd like to hear from more owners that own modern G's.
The key point is “built in the modern era”. Remember guys that the 1st gen is NOT built in the modern era! It doesn’t make it better, but this is a military vehicle designs for deserts in the 1970s.

I bet the new gen cars will not have rust issues.
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just stumbled across a nice 2014 G63 w/ 41k on the clock that I really liked the spec. First 20k miles in FL (no salt), second 20k miles in NY (1/2017 - now). Zoomed into the pics and bubbling already around rear/truck top hinge. Rust bubbling and about to flake off paint in 20k miles and less that 2 years (2 winters) of a salt region. Ridiculous
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it was identical rust to that red one posted above...but a bit worse.....

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if there is any way you could get pictures of it, it would be much appreciated.


Originally Posted by horse86
just stumbled across a nice 2014 G63 w/ 41k on the clock that I really liked the spec. First 20k miles in FL (no salt), second 20k miles in NY (1/2017 - now). Zoomed into the pics and bubbling already around rear/trunk top hinge. Rust bubbling and about to flake off paint in 20k miles and less that 2 years (2 winters) of a salt region. Ridiculous
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Originally Posted by horse86
it was identical rust to that red one posted above...but a bit worse.....

note that the hinges are totally redesigned for 2018, smaller and without the rubber gasket

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That pic above is incorrect. I'm referring to the hinge on the trunk door (spare tire/rear window door where it rusts around the rubber grommet) not the passengers door hinges.


However, I have noticed on every G63 I have looked at.....if you look in the seam (like the pic of the white one above) I've seen rust inside the door sill where the hinge connects to the body. All passenger doors have that 3 piece hinge on every G63 I've looked at from 2014 to 2018

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That pic above is incorrect. I'm referring to the hinge on the trunk door (spare tire/rear window door where it rusts around the rubber grommet) not the passengers door hinges.


However, I have noticed on every G63 I have looked at.....if you look in the seam (like the pic of the white one above) I've seen rust inside the door sill where the hinge connects to the body. All passenger doors have that 3 piece hinge on every G63 I've looked at from 2014 to 2018
If you ever see this in the future, please try and post photos.
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Pics from 2 diff white G63s and 1grey I looked at

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Dang...that's bad. Thanks for the pics horse86.
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I feel like leaving mine in the garage and never taking it out!
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In Canada (and I think the US is the same), the MB Warranty for surface corrosion is 4 years or 80,000km. So at least some of these G63s you are looking at would be covered.

And BTW, the European rust warranty is NOT 30 years - it’s only 30 years for perforation, which will never happen on a modern car. And you have to have your car serviced by MB at least every 2 years, and there a bunch of other requirements. So it’s nice, but not as great as it seems.
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I feel like leaving mine in the garage and never taking it out!
Garage is worse than leaving it outside! Warmth and humidity accelerate the rust.
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Thanks for the pics, Horse.

That rust is embarrassing.
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Garage is worse than leaving it outside! Warmth and humidity accelerate the rust.
That’s why you use a dehumidifier. I can KE my garage at 15% humidity, which helps to quickly dry out even hard to reach pools of water (i.e. behind the windscreen rubber stripping)
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Originally Posted by Surge
Garage is worse than leaving it outside! Warmth and humidity accelerate the rust.
It's conditioned.
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I have 2017 G550 and found out some of the paint started to crack. It seems the paint crack where there seam, like below the windshield and rear corner above g550 logo.
Anybody else experience cracking paint? Hopefully this will take sometime before start to rust.
This is rust that’s cracking the paint. It’s covered under the 4 year/50k mile surface rust warranty if you’re in the US or Canada.
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Thanks for the pics, Horse.

That rust is embarrassing.
This is not common, or this forum and the internet would be ablaze with complaints.
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Originally Posted by GoldenDoodle
Wow. Good to see I'm not alone. I have a 2011 G550 with just over 50,000 miles. I have rust on the door sills, around the rear door and around the front windshield (the windshield rust isn't quite as bad as yours, but the rear door rust is worse!). I can't believe Mercedes sold cars with such bad rust protection. Not sure what I should do about it. Will it cost a lot to have a body shop sand it down and repaint it? I might just cut my losses, sell the G, and buy a Range Rover. All aluminum FTW. OP you might want to do the same.
I would get it fixed properly and keep it.
Range Rover is much much worse in terms of reliability.
Also, aluminum will still corrode if not treated properly. Just check the McLaren forum if you don’t believe me and look at the rust issues on brand new 570s!
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This is not common, or this forum and the internet would be ablaze with complaints.
Is 2 for 2 or 100% not common enough for you? Those were 2 separate white G63s and same rust inside the hinge seams. Same places, same rust. Also the grey one on the back door hinge has the same as the red one on the hinge...I'd encourage all those living in the rust belt to go look at theirs. The metal and sealing and paint is terrible on these vehicles (pre-2019.....to early to tell for post 2019). Can't deny the evidence. And these are newer low mileage cars too!
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Originally Posted by Surge
I would get it fixed properly and keep it.
Range Rover is much much worse in terms of reliability.
Also, aluminum will still corrode if not treated properly. Just check the McLaren forum if you don’t believe me and look at the rust issues on brand new 570s!
If its bare. Bare aluminum will corrode which creates a bond that is actually very strong.

aluminum corrosion is aluminum oxide, a very hard material that actually protects the aluminum from further corrosion. Steel on the other hand will rust, but unlike aluminum oxide, will expand and flake off which exposes new metal to further rusting which will continue to flake off weakening the metal until it falls apart.
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Is 2 for 2 or 100% not common enough for you? Those were 2 separate white G63s and same rust inside the hinge seams. Same places, same rust. Also the grey one on the back door hinge has the same as the red one on the hinge...I'd encourage all those living in the rust belt to go look at theirs. The metal and sealing and paint is terrible on these vehicles (pre-2019.....to early to tell for post 2019). Can't deny the evidence. And these are newer low mileage cars too!
How is 2 samples 100%?! Lol. Out of the tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of G wagons sold since 1979?!
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Read the entire thread and look at the pictures.

A guy who owns a Mercedes collision center even commented that this is a very common problem, and it is due to cheap materials/build quality.

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How is 2 samples 100%?! Lol. Out of the tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of G wagons sold since 1979?!
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Read the entire thread and look at the pictures.

A guy who owns a Mercedes collision center even commented that this is a very common problem, and it is due to cheap materials/build quality.
Sorry bro but one guy in one bodyshop is not exactly evidence of a widespread problem. I agree that it should not happen at all; but we don't know how these previous owners treated the cars. For instance, most after-market rustproofing is actually worse for metal than not using any. Or perhaps these are repainted panels that were not adequately prepped prior to wash.


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