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Hello. I’m ordering a 2021 so this 2020 is now available & is located in the mid-east region. Per the dealership, out of state deals are ok, but no cash deals so finance or lease is fine. Please pm me & I’ll share with u the contact info for my salesman. Please find the build sheet below. Thanks.
That is strange...I wrote a personal check for the full amount for mine and the dealer had no problem whatsoever with doing it that way. Unless they meant real "cash" in that they would not accept a duffle bag of cash!
Out of state cash buyer screams straw buyer for exporting. Straw buyers won't bother with financing because they won't qualify. Legit buyers can just finance to make the dealer happy and pay off the loan after the first month.
I'm surprised the dealer will accept out of state deals and I wouldn't accept cash out of state either if I were them.
For local deals, dealers should have no issues with cash payments.
I'm surprised illegitimate export is a problem. All the high tech stuff being crammed into cars today should enable the ECU to self destruct if the GPS coordinates conflict. My car convulses if it crosses the highway centerline on US160. Who knows how it would respond if it found itself in Peru next week.
I'm surprised illegitimate export is a problem. All the high tech stuff being crammed into cars today should enable the ECU to self destruct if the GPS coordinates conflict. My car convulses if it crosses the highway centerline on US160. Who knows how it would respond if it found itself in Peru next week.
Why would MB care, the only one that cares is MB USA and the corresponding dealer.
Dealers get paid for doing the financing. A loan or lease in that price range will net them $8,000 or more. If the buyer pays it off within 90 days, they get charged back the income, so every dealer hopes to finance or lease a vehicle. Also, if a vehicle shows up in another country within the first six months of retail sale, the dealer gets charged a percentage of MSRP and then has to prove they didn't have anything to do with the export before they can get the money returned. Hope that sheds some light. I am always asked to sign a no export agreement at the time of purchase and the form defines the reason why.
Theothrknd, you're saying that if someone does MBFS for a new car loan and pay it off early, the owner gets charged an early payoff penalty?
No, the dealer who got paid the "reserve" bonus has to pay it back. Otherwise, dealers would simply do one pay contracts for cash buyers and the finance company would suffer as they pay the dealer a lot for these loans.
TheoK - thank you for your forum posts - but actually HotDog hits much closer to the mark than you do..
1st - since the Introduction of the New Gen G-Wagen - Mercedes US has been increasingly diligent to reduce "export" - and also to encourage Mercedes dealers to optimize their G-Wagen sales to their respective "Market Area's" as "loosely defined" in most cases to be their State and adjoining states - and in Urban Centers (ie California) more tightly defined than that.
If a Retail New G-Wagen buyer Exports that G-Wagen - as it leaves the US it is logged/reported by US Customs on the outbound - and YES the Dealer gets charged back by MB for the margin and holdback on that MSRP - BUT with Market Adjustments generating a added Dealer Profit above and beyond MSRP margin - Mercedes also has gone to 1st-One-Exported/Lose-One-Next allocation - and 2nd-G-Exported/Lose-Two-Next-Allocation - so for 2 G's Exported in this case that Dealer loses three from following allocation.
For a 1st-time buyer from that Dealership - Mercedes Financing gives the Dealer legitimate backup from MBFS that the buyer is not a "Straw Dog" (which is the loose translation of the Mandarin term for someone pretending to be the Buyer who is really not) - a Trade-In (especially Mercedes) is also good backup - and so you know the Dealer also checks the Customer Info against the ongoing MBUSA "Known Exporter's List which shows Name - address - etc of prior Buyer's who have had their new MB's show up as Export.
Sure - there are "some" who still "slip thru" - but a experienced Dealer generally can "smell that" - and frankly as the G-Wagen goes forward as long as demand stays High - Mercedes US will continue to find active ways to encourage more earnest work by each Dealer to keep inside ever "narrowing" goal posts.
At this moment - with MMR Values on G63's still so very high - US Used Car Dealer's are trying to jump on the G63 bandwagon as well - with their own "Straw Dog's".
The major internet "search engines" like Auto Trader, CarFax, etc - poll for new inventory additions at most Dealer's - pull that vehcile info - and auto-upload/post - and as a new G is added to inventory on the dealer side - there is no block for those engines to upload/post because those engines don't know if that new added G is pre-sold or not.
I had my most recent G63 arrive and get posted to my inventory Fri morning (yes. it is customer pre-sold) - and the emails and calls started by 2PM Fri afternoon - and the very/very first internet inquiry thru AutoTrader - "gee, I think I know that guy on the opposite iside of one adjoining state" - I hit one of my "search tools" - and sure enough that's the same "Ritchard" I know who is GM/owner of a large urban Pre-Owned Superstore... gee's... you think doing the "right thing" is easy in today's connected world ?
The amazing thing is this - you would think 1-2yr old New Gen G's would be even hotter on the Export-Hit-Parade - and 2nd owner G's owned by1st owner over 1yr aren't on MBUSA "export penalty lists" - but they aren't - for Export - it's New/New all the way !
I have my 2019 G-Wagen owner's lining up in my office ordering 2021's - if you bought at MSRP and have low/reasonable mileage - let's say best around/under 15K - in this market it's goofy-to-the-good - you get a very/very respectable 2yr old trade-in - and move forward to your 2021 - change color - change interior - etc if you want - heck, most of my '19 owners ordering 2021's have been ordering 2021 "clones" of the 2019 G's they are driving now ..
The major internet "search engines" like Auto Trader, CarFax, etc - poll for new inventory additions at most Dealer's - pull that vehcile info - and auto-upload/post - and as a new G is added to inventory on the dealer side - there is no block for those engines to upload/post because those engines don't know if that new added G is pre-sold or not.
I had my most recent G63 arrive and get posted to my inventory Fri morning (yes. it is customer pre-sold) - and the emails and calls started by 2PM Fri afternoon - and the very/very first internet inquiry thru AutoTrader - "gee, I think I know that guy on the opposite iside of one adjoining state" - I hit one of my "search tools" - and sure enough that's the same "Ritchard" I know who is GM/owner of a large urban Pre-Owned Superstore... gee's... you think doing the "right thing" is easy in today's connected world ?
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Interesting information. Just so I understand what you are saying, Autotrader scans dealer inventory info and auto-posts a for sale ad for that dealer without the dealer doing anything? If that's the case it would explain why so many new G Wagons show up on Autotrader, but when you call they are pre-sold trucks (same for the new Corvette). It's still a good idea to call on those since they are sometimes ordered, but not purchased when they actually arrive. That's how I ended up with the new 2020 for my wife unexpectedly. Called a dealer and he said it was sold, but I sent my wife to look at it anyway so she could see what the new interior looks like. A week passed and the dealer called to say the customer didn't take it so I could have it if I wanted. Luckily we got there about 20 minutes after his call because 10 minutes after that there were 4 other people there trying to buy it!
About 18 months ago when I began shopping for a G, all MB dealers (at least 8) in the SW region had the same G550 listed as new inventory on their individual web sites. I contacted one of them, and he said that G wasn't on his lot, but he had several really nice GLSs I would surely like. He wouldn't say if he could actually get the G (probably not). I finally found the G's physical location through Car Gurus, but that dealer's MSRP + $15K price wasn't especially appealing. So I placed an order at another dealership that had an unsold allocation 5 months away. My conclusion - MB wants to sell you something even if it's not what you want to buy, and Gs are great bait.
That is strange...I wrote a personal check for the full amount for mine and the dealer had no problem whatsoever with doing it that way. Unless they meant real "cash" in that they would not accept a duffle bag of cash!
I also paid and pay cash for my vehicles and don’t think so. It’s for out of state buyers paying cash as they suspect illegal exporting etc.
Mine was $161 for the G550, I wanted the 63 but didn't want to wait. I am glad I got this one, only thing it's missing I would want is Night package which I am going to try to retrofit
TheoK - thank you for your forum posts - but actually HotDog hits much closer to the mark than you do..
1st - since the Introduction of the New Gen G-Wagen - Mercedes US has been increasingly diligent to reduce "export" - and also to encourage Mercedes dealers to optimize their G-Wagen sales to their respective "Market Area's" as "loosely defined" in most cases to be their State and adjoining states - and in Urban Centers (ie California) more tightly defined than that.
If a Retail New G-Wagen buyer Exports that G-Wagen - as it leaves the US it is logged/reported by US Customs on the outbound - and YES the Dealer gets charged back by MB for the margin and holdback on that MSRP - BUT with Market Adjustments generating a added Dealer Profit above and beyond MSRP margin - Mercedes also has gone to 1st-One-Exported/Lose-One-Next allocation - and 2nd-G-Exported/Lose-Two-Next-Allocation - so for 2 G's Exported in this case that Dealer loses three from following allocation.
For a 1st-time buyer from that Dealership - Mercedes Financing gives the Dealer legitimate backup from MBFS that the buyer is not a "Straw Dog" (which is the loose translation of the Mandarin term for someone pretending to be the Buyer who is really not) - a Trade-In (especially Mercedes) is also good backup - and so you know the Dealer also checks the Customer Info against the ongoing MBUSA "Known Exporter's List which shows Name - address - etc of prior Buyer's who have had their new MB's show up as Export.
Sure - there are "some" who still "slip thru" - but a experienced Dealer generally can "smell that" - and frankly as the G-Wagen goes forward as long as demand stays High - Mercedes US will continue to find active ways to encourage more earnest work by each Dealer to keep inside ever "narrowing" goal posts.
At this moment - with MMR Values on G63's still so very high - US Used Car Dealer's are trying to jump on the G63 bandwagon as well - with their own "Straw Dog's".
The major internet "search engines" like Auto Trader, CarFax, etc - poll for new inventory additions at most Dealer's - pull that vehcile info - and auto-upload/post - and as a new G is added to inventory on the dealer side - there is no block for those engines to upload/post because those engines don't know if that new added G is pre-sold or not.
I had my most recent G63 arrive and get posted to my inventory Fri morning (yes. it is customer pre-sold) - and the emails and calls started by 2PM Fri afternoon - and the very/very first internet inquiry thru AutoTrader - "gee, I think I know that guy on the opposite iside of one adjoining state" - I hit one of my "search tools" - and sure enough that's the same "Ritchard" I know who is GM/owner of a large urban Pre-Owned Superstore... gee's... you think doing the "right thing" is easy in today's connected world ?
The amazing thing is this - you would think 1-2yr old New Gen G's would be even hotter on the Export-Hit-Parade - and 2nd owner G's owned by1st owner over 1yr aren't on MBUSA "export penalty lists" - but they aren't - for Export - it's New/New all the way !
I have my 2019 G-Wagen owner's lining up in my office ordering 2021's - if you bought at MSRP and have low/reasonable mileage - let's say best around/under 15K - in this market it's goofy-to-the-good - you get a very/very respectable 2yr old trade-in - and move forward to your 2021 - change color - change interior - etc if you want - heck, most of my '19 owners ordering 2021's have been ordering 2021 "clones" of the 2019 G's they are driving now ..
Thoughts on the price trajectory of a 2019 model? I do not want to wait for a 2021, so am interested in buying a used 2019 that someone is trading in. However, I am largely seeing used 2019s/2020s that are listed for MSRP (which is bonkers to me). Any thoughts on whether these used models will dip in price? I think I will feel incredibly dumb if I end up purchasing a 2019 model with 15K miles at ~MSRP, when I could just buy a new 2021 (albeit have to get on a waiting list).
Most of the resales are with under 15k miles. There’s a few with higher miles that are still listed above sticker which is ridiculous.
The only used G63 I’ve seen under sticker was a private seller. It had higher miles and was listed for $128k. Blue color from somewhere in the northeast. It was gone quickly.
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