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Old 02-28-2023 | 10:50 AM
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Ordered! The EQG will be awesome.
Are there any other EQG threads here, or just this one (for now)?
This is the only EV I considered.. and still keeping my 2019 G. A V8 G Wagon will be even more valuable when they are all electric.
I had requested that I dedicated thread be made for the EQG but I was told that since ordering info was not available it could not be created. With that said, I have a deposit on one but not an order since they cannot be ordered as of today.
Old 02-28-2023 | 11:13 AM
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Im curious what dealers are doing for reservations/orders? My dealer told me that I am "on their list" but no money has changed hands yet. Thinking I may need to get on a few lists...
Old 02-28-2023 | 11:16 AM
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Im curious what dealers are doing for reservations/orders? My dealer told me that I am "on their list" but no money has changed hands yet. Thinking I may need to get on a few lists...
My dealer took a $5k deposit so I have it documented, at MSRP.
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Old 03-01-2023 | 12:46 PM
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My dealer took a $5k deposit so I have it documented, at MSRP.
Same here. Well in Canada they don’t charge over MSRP anyway.

Hope you keep this one longer than the G550, Bob!
Old 03-01-2023 | 12:53 PM
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Same here. Well in Canada they don’t charge over MSRP anyway.

Hope you keep this one longer than the G550, Bob!
We had it about 1 1/2 years...longer than many others I have had!

I hope they release info such as colors, etc. soon - I suspect there will be unique colors and wheels to differentiate them from the ICE models.
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Old 03-01-2023 | 01:31 PM
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Same here. Well in Canada they don’t charge over MSRP anyway.
That's an urban legend. Canadian dealers can and often do charge over MSRP.
Old 03-01-2023 | 02:38 PM
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That's an urban legend. Canadian dealers can and often do charge over MSRP.
No it isn't. Unless you're talking about used cars which is the loophole. Dealers will sell to people they know, have them drive it for like a week and then sell it as used for market price.
If your dealer is marking up a new car above msrp, just report them to your local vehicle sales authority.
Old 03-01-2023 | 07:37 PM
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No it isn't. Unless you're talking about used cars which is the loophole. Dealers will sell to people they know, have them drive it for like a week and then sell it as used for market price.
If your dealer is marking up a new car above msrp, just report them to your local vehicle sales authority.
Why would I report the dealer for doing something that is perfectly legal? There is no law against selling new cars above MSRP.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/driv...he-advertised/

Many people confuse MSRP with dealer advertised price. They are not the same thing. Charging in excess of the former is perfectly legal. In the case of the latter, it is not. As long as the dealer advertises the sale price on their website (or does not advertise the price), they can sell the car at 10x the MSRP. You can go on mercedes-benz.ca and check dealer inventory. If you do, you will see cars with marked up prices. They don't call it ADM. Instead, they simply inflate their standard fees. For example, I've seen a dealer charge $20,000 for freight and PDI (as opposed to the typical $3,500) or $15,000 for mandatory PPF. I've also seen a $10,000 admin fee. All of this clearly stated on the dealer website.
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Old 03-02-2023 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Donald Kimball
That's an urban legend. Canadian dealers can and often do charge over MSRP.
I've never been charged over MSRP, even for my 2019 G, which is a ~3 year wait list in Canada.
Old 03-02-2023 | 11:42 AM
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Why would I report the dealer for doing something that is perfectly legal? There is no law against selling new cars above MSRP.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/driv...he-advertised/

Many people confuse MSRP with dealer advertised price. They are not the same thing. Charging in excess of the former is perfectly legal. In the case of the latter, it is not. As long as the dealer advertises the sale price on their website (or does not advertise the price), they can sell the car at 10x the MSRP. You can go on mercedes-benz.ca and check dealer inventory. If you do, you will see cars with marked up prices. They don't call it ADM. Instead, they simply inflate their standard fees. For example, I've seen a dealer charge $20,000 for freight and PDI (as opposed to the typical $3,500) or $15,000 for mandatory PPF. I've also seen a $10,000 admin fee. All of this clearly stated on the dealer website.
Per Mercedes Canada, they are not allowed to sell for over MSRP. MB can pull their license if they do that. So it definitely violates the agreement between MB and the dealer.
Whether or not MB does anything is another matter, but the dealer is not supposed to.

I really hope you didn't pay over MSRP for your new Polar White G!! Having spoken to the owners of the two largest MB dealers in Canada, they never sell for over MSRP and do not inflate pricing.

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Old 03-02-2023 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Donald Kimball
Why would I report the dealer for doing something that is perfectly legal? There is no law against selling new cars above MSRP.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/driv...he-advertised/
Many people confuse MSRP with dealer advertised price. They are not the same thing. Charging in excess of the former is perfectly legal. In the case of the latter, it is not. As long as the dealer advertises the sale price on their website (or does not advertise the price), they can sell the car at 10x the MSRP. You can go on mercedes-benz.ca and check dealer inventory. If you do, you will see cars with marked up prices. They don't call it ADM. Instead, they simply inflate their standard fees. For example, I've seen a dealer charge $20,000 for freight and PDI (as opposed to the typical $3,500) or $15,000 for mandatory PPF. I've also seen a $10,000 admin fee. All of this clearly stated on the dealer website.
Please show me a Canadian dealer listing of a NEW G63 with the markup clearly stated....You wont find any because they cant charge above MSRP for new. Again, you will find PLENTY of examples with anywhere from 100 km to a couple of thousand then selling for market price which is often above MSRP because the car is now technically used. But unlike the states, Canadian dealers cant charge above MSRP for any new car. Hence waitlists in Canada where only loyal customers get G allocations (to make up for the fact that they cant charge ADM's) at least this is how it is at my dealership in BC and my friends in Toronto have also waited to pay MSRP for a new G.

So yes, I would report any Canadian dealer selling any NEW car above MSRP. Btw my friend is the GM of a Subaru dealership here and he told me its the same deal for their limited edition WRX at the time. They couldn't charge over MSRP but tried to get around it by tacking on as many extras as possible given the demand for the model. But if the customer knows what they're doing, you tell the dealer to remove the extras and threaten to report them to your local sales authority and it will go back to MSRP unless that dealer wants to lose their license to sell.


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Old 03-03-2023 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 3.Pointed.Czar
Please show me a Canadian dealer listing of a NEW G63 with the markup clearly stated....You wont find any because they cant charge above MSRP for new. Again, you will find PLENTY of examples with anywhere from 100 km to a couple of thousand then selling for market price which is often above MSRP because the car is now technically used. But unlike the states, Canadian dealers cant charge above MSRP for any new car. Hence waitlists in Canada where only loyal customers get G allocations (to make up for the fact that they cant charge ADM's) at least this is how it is at my dealership in BC and my friends in Toronto have also waited to pay MSRP for a new G.

So yes, I would report any Canadian dealer selling any NEW car above MSRP. Btw my friend is the GM of a Subaru dealership here and he told me its the same deal for their limited edition WRX at the time. They couldn't charge over MSRP but tried to get around it by tacking on as many extras as possible given the demand for the model. But if the customer knows what they're doing, you tell the dealer to remove the extras and threaten to report them to your local sales authority and it will go back to MSRP unless that dealer wants to lose their license to sell.
It seems that you didn’t read the post you were responding to carefully. See the listing below and take note of the $20k freight and PDI. Usually, freight and PDI is around $3.5K. If that’s not a markup I don’t know what is.

If you google the VIN number, you’ll find the dealer selling that particular vehicle. Feel free to report them to whomever you wish. I can guarantee that no one will care.



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Old 03-03-2023 | 08:11 PM
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I really hope you didn't pay over MSRP for your new Polar White G!! Having spoken to the owners of the two largest MB dealers in Canada, they never sell for over MSRP and do not inflate pricing.
I didn’t pay over MSRP. Most MB dealers do not inflate prices but some clearly do. Although this practice seems to be coming to an end, as there no longer appears to be a shortage of supply. There are brand new G wagons advertised on autotrader.ca at MSRP.
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Good lawd at that sales and luxury tax. Probably better off paying ADM in the US haha.
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Old 03-04-2023 | 01:05 PM
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If you google the VIN number, you’ll find the dealer selling that particular vehicle. Feel free to report them to whomever you wish. I can guarantee that no one will care
Just googled and nothing came up...post the actual listing and I will report them.
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Good lawd at that sales and luxury tax. Probably better off paying ADM in the US haha.
Yeah and you pay sales taxes on the total, post luxury tax price of the vehicle. In other words, you are paying a tax upon a tax. Welcome to Canada.
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Yeah and you pay sales taxes on the total, post luxury tax price of the vehicle. In other words, you are paying a tax upon a tax. Welcome to Canada.
Somebodys gotta pay for the free healthcare lol.
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Yeah and you pay sales taxes on the total, post luxury tax price of the vehicle. In other words, you are paying a tax upon a tax. Welcome to Canada.
So just not going to post the the listing? Or it doesn't exist?

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Old 03-21-2023 | 01:03 AM
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Price is the same, Canada - US, even with the luxury tax in Ontario, BC. No difference. And all dealers in Canada sell at MSRP.
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There are brand new G wagons advertised on autotrader.ca at MSRP.
No, there are not. Just because it’s listed on AT doesn’t mean it’s available. Common tactic: advertise to get you in the door, then they say it “just sold” and take your deposit. While you’re waiting for ~3 years, they try to get you into something else.
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Originally Posted by 3.Pointed.Czar
Just googled and nothing came up...post the actual listing and I will report them.
All described as new:

https://www.autotrader.ca/a/mercedes...x=-1&modalXS=1

https://www.autotrader.ca/a/mercedes...9X+0J2&sprx=-1

https://www.autotrader.ca/a/mercedes...x=-1&modalXS=1

https://www.autotrader.ca/a/mercedes...%200J2&sprx=-1

Please also feel free to report this Ford dealer asking circa $50k over list for this Raptor R.

https://www.autotrader.ca/a/ford/f-1...9X+0J2&sprx=-1

Barrie has two



Report Peterborough as well.




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Old 03-21-2023 | 07:16 PM
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Just spoke with the dealer in Surrey. They said zero mark up on their cars. You posted all edition 55's which are roughly $85K CAD more than the standard G63 to begin with. According to them, Im not sure on this. Adding all of the other packages and the luxury tax which they have already included gets you to the total they have advertised. Only thing missing is normal PST/GST. Call and ask to speak a sales guy yourself as the guy offered to email me an exact cash break down which will show they have not marked up the vehicle but could be BS'ing.

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These are all over MSRP… no surprise here. Of course you can get one “tomorrow” if you’re willing to pay ~$50k+ over list!


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