S63 or S65?
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S63 or S65?
Hello everyone. New member here looking to purchase my first MB! My father has owned a couple, and I think that’s where my attraction began for them. I always have loved the W221 style and that’s what I am looking to purchase. I’m sure it has been posted and discussed previously, but being a new member I am not entirely sure how to begin searching for what could be countless answers. The following are what I am considering to purchase;
2010 S63 (6.2 N/A)
2011+ S63 (5.5 Bi-Turbo)
2010+ S65 (6.0 Bi-Turbo)
There is currently a 2010 S63 for sale locally within very reasonable price (see picture below of this exact model). From what I understand, the were two types of 7-Speed transmissions for the S63. Which year production was better? IF I do purchase the local 6.2 N/A do I really have to worry about head bolts like everyone claims? Does the 2010 have the better of the 7-Speed transmissions?
Or, if I decide to stay with the S63, should I hold out for a lower mileage Bi-Turbo? And if I do decide to go with the Bi-Turbo route, do I even bother with the S63 and just spend a little more coin on an S65? I could have sworn I read somewhere the 5-Speed transmissions in the S65 are not as good as the 7-Speed in the S63. Sorry for all the amateur questions, but this platform is new to me, and I’m eager to get behind the wheel of one. Thank you to anyone who can guide me in the right direction with this purchase. Below is a picture of the exact 2010 6.2 I would be considering.
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A few general comments.
The 7-Tronic is a workhorse with a lot of field experience. No concerns there imo.
Lower mileage and newer vehicles are always preferred for me.
Regarding the other options, do some research to see if any (engines, etc) were short-lived. This is a red flag for me, if it exists.
The 7-Tronic is a workhorse with a lot of field experience. No concerns there imo.
Lower mileage and newer vehicles are always preferred for me.
Regarding the other options, do some research to see if any (engines, etc) were short-lived. This is a red flag for me, if it exists.
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Hello everyone. New member here looking to purchase my first MB! My father has owned a couple, and I think that’s where my attraction began for them. I always have loved the W221 style and that’s what I am looking to purchase. I’m sure it has been posted and discussed previously, but being a new member I am not entirely sure how to begin searching for what could be countless answers. The following are what I am considering to purchase;
2010 S63 (6.2 N/A)
2011+ S63 (5.5 Bi-Turbo)
2010+ S65 (6.0 Bi-Turbo)
There is currently a 2010 S63 for sale locally within very reasonable price (see picture below of this exact model). From what I understand, the were two types of 7-Speed transmissions for the S63. Which year production was better? IF I do purchase the local 6.2 N/A do I really have to worry about head bolts like everyone claims? Does the 2010 have the better of the 7-Speed transmissions?
Or, if I decide to stay with the S63, should I hold out for a lower mileage Bi-Turbo? And if I do decide to go with the Bi-Turbo route, do I even bother with the S63 and just spend a little more coin on an S65? I could have sworn I read somewhere the 5-Speed transmissions in the S65 are not as good as the 7-Speed in the S63. Sorry for all the amateur questions, but this platform is new to me, and I’m eager to get behind the wheel of one. Thank you to anyone who can guide me in the right direction with this purchase. Below is a picture of the exact 2010 6.2 I would be considering.
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Wait so ALL AMG models have the MCT? I was under the impression that pre 2010 was 7g-Tronic and 2011+ was the MCT. MCT being the better of the two.
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The MCT came out in 2004. Have a read of this: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...s63-amg-review
Do you have a VIN number? You can decode it with www.datamb.com
Do you have a VIN number? You can decode it with www.datamb.com
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The MCT came out in 2004. Have a read of this: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...s63-amg-review
Do you have a VIN number? You can decode it with www.datamb.com
Do you have a VIN number? You can decode it with www.datamb.com
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Read the entire data card:
Transmission is 722.9 = 7G-Tronic
option code GV = reinforced transmission
I don’t know if option code GV means speedshift MCT.
Your VIN shows transmission 722.907, which seems to be the AMG speedshift version. Have a look at https://www.ebay.com/itm/Transmissio...EAAOSwwvtb6Q~C
My 2017 GLE350 has transmission 722.906 which is the base 7G-Tronic Plus.
Transmission is 722.9 = 7G-Tronic
option code GV = reinforced transmission
I don’t know if option code GV means speedshift MCT.
Your VIN shows transmission 722.907, which seems to be the AMG speedshift version. Have a look at https://www.ebay.com/itm/Transmissio...EAAOSwwvtb6Q~C
My 2017 GLE350 has transmission 722.906 which is the base 7G-Tronic Plus.
Last edited by chassis; Jan 16, 2019 at 12:11 PM.
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