You All Bought A Re-labeled Korean Car!!!
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Originally Posted by JDM
I still don't see it.The ssang thingy is narrower and shorter..sure the headlights are similar in shape, but hardly interchangeable. and look at the rain gutters..and the windshields certainly would'nt be interchangeable either. Whenever vehicles share the same platform, it is easily detected by the doors and the rooflines. example; pontiac grand prix/buick century/regal/monte carlo....cadillac catera/opel omega/new gto/holden. Look at the door frames.."a" pillars. I don't think it's proven, nor can it be. ssang thing looks more like a mitsubishi or a rodeo.
of course the 2 cars are not identical and the exterior parts are not interchangable. That would be ridiculous......Now if some of you have lived outside the US, I'm sure you're aware that there are different cars in other countries, and even the same car with different names and so on. In Korea, for example, all lines of Nissans from the altima...maxima...and so on are rebranded Samsung SM3, SM5, SM7. They are the same exact cars as the Nissans with different body lines/bumpers/window sizes.
Obviously these SM3 - SM7's can't be exported out of Korea for resale, just like the Rexton wasn't allowed until it dropped the Benz engine and other major parts.
Even my Rexton's cabin looks similar to my CLK's. From the memory seat functions, to the tip-tronic shifter, as well as some of the other fucntions...BAS/rain sensing wipers.....etc
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http://www.carpages.co.uk/ssangyong/...1-12-02-05.asp
OK, so the article mentions use of a Mercedes diesel engine and transmission, and some components. HOWEVER that does not mean it's simply a rebadged ML/GL/R. Way to go on exaggerating things.
OK, so the article mentions use of a Mercedes diesel engine and transmission, and some components. HOWEVER that does not mean it's simply a rebadged ML/GL/R. Way to go on exaggerating things.
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Originally Posted by AsianML
http://www.carpages.co.uk/ssangyong/...1-12-02-05.asp
OK, so the article mentions use of a Mercedes diesel engine and transmission, and some components. HOWEVER that does not mean it's simply a rebadged ML/GL/R. Way to go on exaggerating things.
OK, so the article mentions use of a Mercedes diesel engine and transmission, and some components. HOWEVER that does not mean it's simply a rebadged ML/GL/R. Way to go on exaggerating things.
Kudos on your due dilligence sir......
I will concede that the GL is not a simply re-badged Rexton, but it certainly is a suped-up Rexton.
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Originally Posted by TresX
Kudos on your due dilligence sir......
I will concede that the GL is not a simply re-badged Rexton, but it certainly is a suped-up Rexton.
I will concede that the GL is not a simply re-badged Rexton, but it certainly is a suped-up Rexton.
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Originally Posted by TresX
My point exactly.......suckers
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I'm confused, are we talking about a chasis shared between two "makes" or are we talking about two seperate chasis, one of wich uses bolt on parts from mb? For instance, in the 80's a vw had the same power window switches as a porsche, because they shared parts distributors.
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Originally Posted by TresX
Ssangyong was not able to export the Rexton until last year when it stopped using some major parts from mercedes. (License agreement) My guess is that they saw how well the car was doing and decided to launch their own version of it.
Granted they changed the body a bit, but basically the same car. Compare for yourself.
Don't get me wrong....with the Navi, I paid close to $40k for the car. I guess $15k for the star isn't too bad!
Granted they changed the body a bit, but basically the same car. Compare for yourself.
Don't get me wrong....with the Navi, I paid close to $40k for the car. I guess $15k for the star isn't too bad!
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Originally Posted by JDM
There is no way these two vehicle share the same chasis. Take the fenders off, doors off, bumpers off, and you will still not have the same structure. Now take a brand new honda accord and pair it up with the acura "version" and you have the same chassis. I cannot find any print stating the two rigs (gl and sssang) are the same underneath the cosmetics.
Same as your post above. Same parts manufacturers. And notice how on the link I posted earlier, the engine is LICENSED to Ssangyong.
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Okay, my final post on this topic. I've been examining pictures of the ML
and the retarded looking ssang thing. To my discust, I think I see what he's talking about. With exception of some wacky restyling, I can almost visualize it. Also, the seats, dash, and steering wheel(except the horn pad) look a little benz to me. I hope I am wrong, and although I've never been a big fan of the ML, it goes against my "wish everything was purebread" mentality. I still do not see a gl in that thing though.
now, if this is true, and I had the knowledge of it, I would probably introduce the topic a little more diplomatically (as it is an MB forum for MB enthusiasts)so as not to be considered a "troll". my
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I still want MORE proof though, as pictures can be decieving.
and the retarded looking ssang thing. To my discust, I think I see what he's talking about. With exception of some wacky restyling, I can almost visualize it. Also, the seats, dash, and steering wheel(except the horn pad) look a little benz to me. I hope I am wrong, and although I've never been a big fan of the ML, it goes against my "wish everything was purebread" mentality. I still do not see a gl in that thing though.
now, if this is true, and I had the knowledge of it, I would probably introduce the topic a little more diplomatically (as it is an MB forum for MB enthusiasts)so as not to be considered a "troll". my
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I still want MORE proof though, as pictures can be decieving.
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Originally Posted by JDM
Okay, my final post on this topic. I've been examining pictures of the ML
and the retarded looking ssang thing. To my discust, I think I see what he's talking about. With exception of some wacky restyling, I can almost visualize it. Also, the seats, dash, and steering wheel(except the horn pad) look a little benz to me. I hope I am wrong, and although I've never been a big fan of the ML, it goes against my "wish everything was purebread" mentality. I still do not see a gl in that thing though.
now, if this is true, and I had the knowledge of it, I would probably introduce the topic a little more diplomatically (as it is an MB forum for MB enthusiasts)so as not to be considered a "troll". my
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I still want MORE proof though, as pictures can be decieving.
and the retarded looking ssang thing. To my discust, I think I see what he's talking about. With exception of some wacky restyling, I can almost visualize it. Also, the seats, dash, and steering wheel(except the horn pad) look a little benz to me. I hope I am wrong, and although I've never been a big fan of the ML, it goes against my "wish everything was purebread" mentality. I still do not see a gl in that thing though.
now, if this is true, and I had the knowledge of it, I would probably introduce the topic a little more diplomatically (as it is an MB forum for MB enthusiasts)so as not to be considered a "troll". my
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I still want MORE proof though, as pictures can be decieving.
EDIT/ADD: The article from Yahoo UK also states that some of the interior bits came from VW.
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you win nothing. the engine is built inhouse by ssangyong using some mb technology-- under the agreement of technology "sharing" when mb invested some capital in ssangyong 15 years ago. the only car made by ssangyong that may have used a full mb engine is the musso when it first came out.
again i say, the rexton has absolutely nothing to do with the gl. and thats a fact.
again i say, the rexton has absolutely nothing to do with the gl. and thats a fact.
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Originally Posted by TresX
buddy, granted my Rexton doesn't have an MB engine, but if you look under the hood of a pre 03' Rexton, you will see the all mighty MB Star!
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Of course not, like I stated earlier....in my moment of boredom, I stumbled upon a theory that I wanted someone else to believe with me!
P.S. See for yourself....don't just deny....
http://www.smotor.com/en/showroom/rexton/interior.jsp
compare the interior and other attributes and make a decision for yourself. I can only show you the door...grassshopper!
P.S. See for yourself....don't just deny....
http://www.smotor.com/en/showroom/rexton/interior.jsp
compare the interior and other attributes and make a decision for yourself. I can only show you the door...grassshopper!
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Originally Posted by TresX
buddy, granted my Rexton doesn't have an MB engine, but if you look under the hood of a pre 03' Rexton, you will see the all mighty MB Star!
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Originally Posted by TresX
Of course not, like I stated earlier....in my moment of boredom, I stumbled upon a theory that I wanted someone else to believe with me!
P.S. See for yourself....don't just deny....
http://www.smotor.com/en/showroom/rexton/interior.jsp
compare the interior and other attributes and make a decision for yourself. I can only show you the door...grassshopper!
P.S. See for yourself....don't just deny....
http://www.smotor.com/en/showroom/rexton/interior.jsp
compare the interior and other attributes and make a decision for yourself. I can only show you the door...grassshopper!
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Originally Posted by jayj
how do you know its a POS? because its korean? don't be ignorant.
ANYWAY, the rexton was introduced in 2001 as a mid size suv and did not use a mercedes engine and has absolutely nothing to do with or related in anyway to the GL.
ANYWAY, the rexton was introduced in 2001 as a mid size suv and did not use a mercedes engine and has absolutely nothing to do with or related in anyway to the GL.
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Originally Posted by TresX
Now you're getting it, grasshopper.
ML ........REXTON........GL
If you read the first article I posted, it mentions a relationship with the M class.
How much you wanna bet on the use of Mercedes engines?
ML ........REXTON........GL
If you read the first article I posted, it mentions a relationship with the M class.
How much you wanna bet on the use of Mercedes engines?
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Originally Posted by Steve_C7
Are you trying to justify buying a SsangYong by imagining it being a Benz built in Korea. I'm sorry to inform you that there are no rebadging or similarities between these two SUV's. Give money to some companies in China and they WILL build you a direct copy of the GL, does that mean that if you brought a GL you are getting ripped off? Let's face facts, I have drived a Rexton and it IS a POS and there are absolutly no comparison to the ML and the reason that they look similar in your eyes is because the asian car makers lack imagination and only copy european car styles to make them look digestable.
Originally Posted by jangy
You may have just been bored, but you are also looking pretty stupi right about now. Anybody with a POS is going to rationalize it somehow. Why be jealous, just live your life.
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Originally Posted by TresX
Buddy....you drive a Ford.....BWAHAHAHAHHAHA
Buddy, I own 5 cars in three different cities and two different countries. Half of them get driven maybe a handful of times a year. I'm betting that you OWN "0" cars. Jumping from lease after lease. Don't worry I have plenty of friends like you.......jealous of you? Don't you wish.....
It was okay that you found some similarities between the two vehicles (even though most were visual similarities), but just flat out saying that it's a rebadged GL? Absolutely ridiculous. You try to compare the Rexton to the GL solely on looks, and then you try to push the idea on us without any solid evidence.
You were already proven wrong when I said the only similarities between the two are LICENSED diesel engine from the ML and Jeep, a few interior switches, shifters.....oh and they got some of that stuff from Volkswagen as well. BUT, the main thing that proved you wrong was that the Rexton is a ladder-framed chassis whereas the GL/ML are unibody.
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Mercedes all the way!
Its the same car isn't it. Just the engine, suspension, interior, electronics and exterior are different.
MOST.POINTLESS.THREAD.EVER. (ok, maybe there's been worse)
just about everyone knows ssangyong got a big helping hand from Merc. it's not just the Rexton - their Chairman shares the W124 E-classes' chasis, transmission, engines, and previous versions were almost indistinguishable from the W140.
but cause and effect are really getting confused here, lol.
