anyone care to comment..j.d power survey..

Oct 8, 2006 | 04:19 PM

rleggs

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anyone care to comment..j.d power survey..

just saw this on the net...

PROBLEMS PER 100 VEHICLES
Porsche 91
Lexus 93
Hyundai 102
Toyota 106
Jaguar 109
Honda 110
Cadillac 117
Infiniti 117
GMC 119
Acura 120
Chrysler 120
Lincoln 121
Nissan 121
Chevrolet 124
Industry Average 124
Ford 127
Mercury 129
Saturn 129
Audi 130
Dodge 132
Pontiac 133
Volvo 133
Buick 134
Mitsubishi 135
Kia 136
Mercedes-Benz 139

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Scion 140
BMW 142
Subaru 146
Mazda 150
MINI 150
Jeep 153
Saab 163
Suzuki 169
HUMMER 171
Volkswagen 171
Isuzu 191
Land Rover 204
Source: J.D. Power and Associates 2006 Initial Quality StudySM
NOTE: Due to changes in study methodology, 2006 IQS scores are not comparable to previous years.
Scores are based on rounded figures for problems per 100 vehicles.

Top three models per segment

Car Segments
Sub-Compact Car: Kia Rio/Rio Cinco and Suzuki Aerio (tie)
Compact Car: Toyota Corolla
Compact Sporty Car: Mazda MX-5 Miata
Compact Premium Sporty Car: Porsche Cayman
Entry Premium Car: Lexus IS 250/IS 350
Midsize Premium Car: Lexus ES 330
Large Premium Car: Lexus LS 430
Premium Sporty Car: Lexus SC 430
Midsize Sporty Car: Toyota Solara
Midsize Car: Toyota Camry
Large Car: Pontiac Grand Prix

Truck / Multi-Activity Vehicle (MAV) Segments
Compact MAV: Hyundai Tucson
Midsize MAV: Toyota Highlander
Large MAV: Toyota Sequoia
Midsize Premium MAV: Lexus GX 470
Large Premium MAV: Lexus LX 470
Large Pickup: Chevrolet Silverado LD
Midsize Pickup: Ford Ranger
Van: Chrysler Town & Country

Source: J.D. Power and Associates 2006 Initial Quality Study

Oct 8, 2006 | 06:58 PM

Steve_C7

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I wouldn't take toom much notice of the JD Power rankings. Firstly it doesn't rate the severity of the problems (ie a blown engine and blown interier light globe are rated the same) and secondly JD are well know to prop up figures for companies paying JD to help improve their quality. Also one more point, the more expensive the car, the more people will complain about any inperfections.

Oct 8, 2006 | 08:14 PM

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Steve,

You totally nailed it on your last point. The more money you spend - the pickier people get and the more they look for stuff to ***** about. "my Mercedes made a thunking noise when I drove through a pothole"...wah..."I can feel my Mercedes lurch when it shifts into 2nd from 1st"...wah..."my Mercedes got a flat when I ran over a screw"....wah...."my Mercedes will blow up if I change my own oil"...wah...."my fingers have grease on them from opening my hood"...wah...

OK, I'm being stupid now, but you get the point!

Just got back from a trip up north to a soccer tournament and my GL450 was flawless carrying 5 people, lots of luggage and gear, 6 cases of water and a cooler. Very comfy...gps was 100%...stereo rocked....even drove through a muddy field with no slippage. Best vehicle I've ever owned!

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Oct 9, 2006 | 12:57 AM

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Porshe and Lexus are top two ranked.

With Porshe and Lexus both selling relativley expensive vehicles, don't know if that line of thinking really works.

Oct 9, 2006 | 08:24 AM

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Yeah, I should stick to my day job...I was tryin' to be funny!

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Oct 9, 2006 | 06:58 PM

Steve_C7

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lrrp

Porshe and Lexus are top two ranked.

With Porshe and Lexus both selling relativley expensive vehicles, don't know if that line of thinking really works.

You missed my point regarding who pays JD for their ranking. Lexus and Toyota have long connection with contracting JD for consultive work on improving quality. Toyota/Lexus have such an overwhelming reputation for being reliable that people with buy them purely because of this reputation, then if minor problems exist they won't complain about them because is removes their justification for buying a boring car in the first place. With regards to Porsche no-one drives them long enough to have problems, I can't recall ever seeing a high milage Porshe for sale that was less that 5 years old.

After all that I believe that Merc deserves it's low placing because it has had it's quality problems particularly electrical gremlins, but I think it's getting better and we will see Merc moving higher up the ladder where it belongs.

Oct 10, 2006 | 01:14 AM

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Depends where I'm going.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lrrp

Porshe and Lexus are top two ranked.

With Porshe and Lexus both selling relativley expensive vehicles, don't know if that line of thinking really works.

I guess I will be the rolling guinea pig! Coming soon to a forum near you, the 2thfixr initial quality survey.

So far they have all been trouble free except for the S500.