Gl 420
Diesel isn't that much cheaper than gasoline here and the V8 diesel doesn't get that much better fuel economy than even a 550.
Diesel is popular in Europe because it's way cheaper than gasoline.
Diesel became more expensive when ULS was mandated. It happened in Texas and California before most other states. There were only a couple refineries that could produce it. Now there are more coming on line and it is starting to come back down (at least below Premium) and should continue to do so.
It will be interesting to see what kind of mileage the 550's get. Are they not required to run Premium or high octane gasoline? Even at 23.9 mpg, that's probably 20 - 30% better than the 550's will get. Another advantage diesels have is their longevity. They tend to last for a lot more miles and therefore have better resale with high mileage.

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1- Don't hold your breath regarding the V8 diesels ever appearing in the USA.
2- Diesel isn't that much cheaper than gasoline here and the V8 diesel doesn't get that much better fuel economy than even a 550.
3- Diesel is popular in Europe because it's way cheaper than gasoline.
Very wise advice
Very true
Very true
Thank you, thank you, thank you for picking up the torch on this one
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My GL 320 (really my wife's) is my 1st and probably not my last MB. If it were not for their offering of a diesel engine in a midsize SUV, I probably would never have looked. My wife has been driving a diesel (2 pickups then an Excursion) but wanted something smaller. Voila!
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-M-B already offers more diesels than any other luxury brand.
-420 will cost the same as a 550 only without the content.
-Diesel fuel costs the same as gas
-Towing capacity is same for all GL's
-Mileage of 420 will draw-down the M-B diesel fleet mileage
-Since most tranactions involving trucks >$50K are leased, the long term benefits of paying a $ premium for the V8 diesel will not be realized in a 2 to 3 year lease.
-The 420 was not developed or certified for the U.S.
-How do you justify the developement costs of a model with a ridiculously low contribution?
-The G-Class owners in the U.S. have been barking up this tree since 2001.
-The "percieved" lack of infrastructure for diesel fuel is still very real with U.S. customers.
-M-B sells 12 SUV's..four ML's, three R's, three GL's and two G's in the U.S. Compared to their competition, do they really need another one?
-M-B already offers more diesels than any other luxury brand.
-420 will cost the same as a 550 only without the content.
-Diesel fuel costs the same as gas
-Towing capacity is same for all GL's
-Mileage of 420 will draw-down the M-B diesel fleet mileage
-Since most tranactions involving trucks >$50K are leased, the long term benefits of paying a $ premium for the V8 diesel will not be realized in a 2 to 3 year lease.
-The 420 was not developed or certified for the U.S.
-How do you justify the developement costs of a model with a ridiculously low contribution?
-The G-Class owners in the U.S. have been barking up this tree since 2001.
-The "percieved" lack of infrastructure for diesel fuel is still very real with U.S. customers.
-M-B sells 12 SUV's..four ML's, three R's, three GL's and two G's in the U.S. Compared to their competition, do they really need another one?
Do you think the intro of the Bluetec at the Detroit (I think it was) show was really a market analysis to see if the styling would be received well knowing that it was really going to be for the US GL550?
Last edited by Nevada Jack; Sep 2, 2007 at 09:51 PM.
Do you think the intro of the Bluetec at the Detroit (I think it was) show was really a market analysis to see if the styling would be received well knowing that it was really going to be for the US GL550?
With U.S. car shows, Detroit is really for the world market, and the New York Auto Show is for the American market. (notice that it wasn't in N.Y.)
Last edited by GL Fahrer; Sep 3, 2007 at 12:02 AM.
In NY the GL550 had all these features that the Vision in Detroit had.
Last edited by Nevada Jack; Sep 3, 2007 at 12:24 AM.

Mercedes-Benz sets new milestones in BLUETEC initiative
Stuttgart, Jan 03, 2007
Mercedes-Benz is continuing its US diesel initiative with the presentation of another concept vehicle at the Detroit Auto Show. The Vision GL 420 BLUETEC demonstrates that, thanks to BLUETEC® technology, even large, high-performance SUVs can offer economical fuel consumption and extremely low emissions. Boasting a powerful V8 diesel engine, which develops 216 kW (290 hp) and 700 Nm (515 lb ft) of torque, the anticipated fuel efficiency for the new SUV is just 9.8 litres per 100 kilometres (24 mpg). This impressive combination of high power, torque, fuel economy and operating range ensures that Mercedes-Benz BLUETEC® vehicles offer an ideal drive concept for the American market.
With its powerful V8 diesel engine, which develops 216 kW (290 hp) and a mighty 700 Nm (515 lb ft) of torque, the Vision GL 420 BLUETEC guarantees the very highest levels of performance. Yet this same compression-ignition engine complies with the stringent US BIN 5 emissions standard, makes do with just 9.8 litres of fuel per 100 kilometres (24 mpg) and has a range of up to 1000 kilometres (600 miles) on a full tank. These impressive figures underline yet again that BLUETEC® vehicles are ideally suited to the American market, where heavy customer demand – especially in the SUV segment – for vehicles with torquey, large-displacement engines is coupled with the need to comply with stringent exhaust-emission regulations. Furthermore, higher fuel prices mean that models with better fuel economy are growing in popularity.
The unique styling of the Vision GL 420 BLUETEC adds visual emphasis to the special status of this model and also addresses the Mercedes-Benz USA customers' wish for vehicles with an even greater degree of exclusivity and a strong, individual identity. The revised, distinctively sculpted front with the dominant radiator grille serves as a visual idiom for the exceptional performance of the V8 diesel engine and lends the Vision GL 420 BLUETEC a sense of dynamic forward movement – even when stationary. This assertive look is complemented by the flared wings, imposing 21 inch wheels and running boards.
Systematic expansion of the BLUETEC® model range
The latest J.D. Power study "Global Outlook For Diesel" forecasts that diesels will account for more than 15 per cent of new registrations in North America by 2015. On this basis, Mercedes-Benz will systematically expand its BLUETEC® range. The company has announced that it intends to offer three new BLUETEC® models (the R, ML and GL Class) – meeting the even more stringent BIN 5 standard – in all 50 US states by as early as 2008. But BLUETEC® vehicles are more than just the cleanest diesel models in the world. They also consume 20 to 40 per cent less fuel than comparable vehicles with spark-ignition engines. For example, the E 320 BLUETEC, which is already on the market, consumes just 35 mpg or 6.7 l/100 km, making it by far the most economical vehicle in its class in the USA.
BLUETEC® – technology for the cleanest diesels in the world
BLUETEC® is a modular emissions control system that reduces nitrogen oxides in particular. These are exhaust components from diesel engines, which, as a result of the constraints inherent in the diesel combustion process, exceed the levels generated by petrol engines. Mercedes-Benz has developed two versions of BLUETEC®. In the E Class, an oxidation-type catalytic converter and particulate filter are combined with an improved, extremely durable NOx storage catalytic converter and an additional SCR catalytic converter. The second BLUETEC® version is even more efficient: AdBlue, an aqueous urea solution, is injected into the exhaust gas flow, a process that releases ammonia, which converts up to 80 per cent of the nitrogen oxides into harmless nitrogen and water in the downstream SCR unit.
Available at last in USA: low-sulphur diesel fuel
In order to be completely effective, BLUETEC® technology for passenger cars and light trucks requires low-sulphur diesel with a sulphur content of less than 15 ppm. This clean fuel, which became available in USA in the autumn of 2006, also reduces the emissions from all diesel engines currently on the market and therefore plays a key role in cutting emission levels in general.
BLUETEC® technology was subjected to a particularly challenging endurance test in the autumn of 2006 when a total of 33 E Class models, including three E 320 BLUETEC vehicles, drove from Paris to Beijing in 26 days. In an impressive demonstration of the robustness and quality of this technology, the vehicles performed outstandingly well under extreme conditions on the 13,600 km trip.
Recognition for BLUETEC®
Die BLUETEC has met with an extremely positive response in USA: respected American science and technology magazines recognised the Mercedes-Benz-developed BLUETEC® technology at the end of 2006. Scientific American selected BLUETEC as one of the top 50 scientific and technological innovations of 2006. Popular Science, the oldest and best-known American science magazine included BLUETEC in its annual "Best of What's New" list. And Ward's Automotive Group, a leading publisher of a number of media and trade magazines for the automotive industry, has nominated the E 320 BLUETEC engine for its list of ten best drive systems in 2007.
The unique styling of the Vision GL 420 BLUETEC adds visual emphasis to the special status of this model and also addresses the Mercedes-Benz USA customers' wish for vehicles with an even greater degree of exclusivity and a strong, individual identity. The revised, distinctively sculpted front with the dominant radiator grille serves as a visual idiom for the exceptional performance of the V8 diesel engine and lends the Vision GL 420 BLUETEC a sense of dynamic forward movement – even when stationary. This assertive look is complemented by the flared wings, imposing 21 inch wheels and running boards.
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US consumers are ready for diesel and the more exposure we will get to the new clean diesels, the more popular they will become.
Come on MB - give us the GL 420 diesel!
Oh and make sure you allow all options on the platform:
-Multi contour seats
-ADSII
-Individual tire pressure monitor
-Cooled seats
-Active seats would be good too!
Oh and make sure you allow all options on the platform:
-Multi contour seats
-ADSII
-Individual tire pressure monitor
-Cooled seats
-Active seats would be good too!

I really hope they bring it here, and increase the use of B5 or even B20, we NEED alternative fuel vehicles, I've been running my truck on B5 only since I got it, it's like getting premium gas, but better fuel economy.
Hey, they have the C300 running on E85, they could add an ML and GL to use E85. I tried to order an Armada, but it wasn't available at that time.
Last edited by BETO; Sep 8, 2007 at 12:47 PM.
Thanks!
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I've been getting 21-22mpg average in my frist 500 miles ( that's 5-10% better fuel economy), and I hope to get even better when the engine gets more miles. I drive very fast on the freeway, above posted speed on the streets, but I don't press hard off the line. I've been loaded with at least three people and up to seven adults ( I couldn't believe it they fit).
Premium gas is around $2.95, regular diesel $2.90-2.95, and I found a place for $2.85. B5 around $2.95.
In addition, the GL450 gets worse mpg (average 15mpg combined), so I'm saving more money, and helping develop alternative and renewable fuels.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/sbs.htm







