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G55K 02-20-2008 11:00 PM

Kleemann KD Box
 
I had Cory from Kleemann install the KD-Box last week. It literally took him about 5 minutes. I wasn't sure what to expected but I've been very impressed.

There's a substantial difference in throttle response, acceleration, and passing power. It's a bigger difference than expected. This weekend we went skiing at Vail and I averaged 24.5 MPG for the round trip. The drive to Vail is at a very high altitide and I didn't expect such great fuel mileage.

I was a bit skeptical of the performance claims but am now convinced that it's a worthwhile mod. You can't go wrong with this one.

ima55r2 02-20-2008 11:23 PM

Glad you can feel the difference. I think Kleemann shipped mine out yesterday. Can’t beat more hp and more torque and still get better mileage.

TV550 02-21-2008 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by G55K (Post 2665733)
I had Cory from Kleemann install the KD-Box last week. It literally took him about 5 minutes. I wasn't sure what to expected but I've been very impressed.

There's a substantial difference in throttle response, acceleration, and passing power. It's a bigger difference than expected. This weekend we went skiing at Vail and I averaged 24.5 MPG for the round trip. The drive to Vail is at a very high altitide and I didn't expect such great fuel mileage.

I was a bit skeptical of the performance claims but am now convinced that it's a worthwhile mod. You can't go wrong with this one.


Please post pics and a website.

thanks

HoustonRider 02-21-2008 08:23 PM

directly from Kleemann or a dealer? what was the price?

ima55r2 02-21-2008 08:48 PM

http://www.kleemann.dk/site/Main/per...products/item6

Look at the dealer list to call for a quote of $825 plus or minus.

jongaines 02-21-2008 11:45 PM

K Box
 
Any downsides to installation? Does it void the warranty?

ima55r2 02-22-2008 10:00 AM

If it's easy put on, it should be just as easy to take it off before seeing the dealer...and since it is a piggy-back unit, there will be no alterations to the ecu for the dealer to discover.

G55K...Did Cory take off the engine cover or anything else for the connections?

TV550 02-22-2008 12:47 PM

Dyi
 
Is this a do it yourself item? Where do you put it?

Holly crap 400 + lbs of torque?

ima55r2 02-22-2008 05:57 PM

One online vendor said the KD-Box can provide up to 270 Hp and 450 lb/ft of torque.

I’m not really sure where it goes, but I’ll find out next week after I get my 1000 mile service and then head out to my guy and watch him put it on.

G55K 02-23-2008 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by ima55r2 (Post 2668385)
If it's easy put on, it should be just as easy to take it off before seeing the dealer...and since it is a piggy-back unit, there will be no alterations to the ecu for the dealer to discover.

G55K...Did Cory take off the engine cover or anything else for the connections?


Cory just popped the cover off and plugged it in. Very easy install that literally took less than 10 minutes.

It would be easy to remove and untraceable.

G55K 02-23-2008 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by TV550 (Post 2668640)
Is this a do it yourself item? Where do you put it?

Holly crap 400 + lbs of torque?

It is easy to do it yourself. I'll take pics of my installation.

G55K 02-23-2008 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by ima55r2 (Post 2669115)
One online vendor said the KD-Box can provide up to 270 Hp and 450 lb/ft of torque.

I’m not really sure where it goes, but I’ll find out next week after I get my 1000 mile service and then head out to my guy and watch him put it on.

It's a night and day difference. The drive train and tranny can easily handle the extra power. Mercedes uses the same tranny in the GL320 as they do in the ML63, etc.

GLDriver 02-24-2008 01:55 PM

just like that ?
 
Just an electronic part would change the power/torque so much ? hard to digest :nix:

G55K 02-24-2008 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by GLDriver (Post 2671406)
Just an electronic part would change the power/torque so much ? hard to digest :nix:

Hard to digest? Have you ever owned a diesel pickup truck? Turbo diesels are very easy to tune with an ECU upgrade. Actually any turbo'd vehicle is easy to tune.

It's not an electronic part. It's actually a piggyback upgrade to the ECU that changes timing and fuel curves (sometimes boost depending upon the tuner). Look on-line for diesel mods, you'll be amazed. The Kleemann upgrade is actually very conservative when compared to the domestic diesel ECU upgrades.

GLDriver 03-06-2008 11:52 AM

ok
 
Wondering why it won't come equipped from factory if perormance numbers are so great.. Does it hurt milage a lot ?

G55K 03-06-2008 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by GLDriver (Post 2693656)
Wondering why it won't come equipped from factory if perormance numbers are so great.. Does it hurt milage a lot ?


Mileage improves.

Why doesn't an E55 come from the factory making 600HP like it does after going to Kleemann or Renntech? Kind of a silly question, isn't it?

GLDriver 03-06-2008 03:22 PM

question makes sense
 
Not sure why it is silly. IF Milage and power improve why not make it a standard component ?

HoustonRider 03-06-2008 07:00 PM

mostly its not tuned for maximum performance to appease the "masses". its tuned by the factory for a "window" of performance. From Old Ladies who drive on Sunday, to someone who tows crap with it, or stomps on it from light to light.

Its not hard to digest. all cars are managed by ECU's. Tapping into that "reserve power" is done by changing ECU mapping.

mortenmol 03-07-2008 01:52 PM

Installation is easy on a 320 but on my 420 it's a *****.
1 hour or so, but well worth it, gives such a boost!

They dynoed an E420 at kleemann here in Copenhagen and it got 426 hp and 775 lb ft. Not bad!!!

Last week i drove 300 km and avaraged 23 us mpg (10.4 L/100 km) going between 85 and 95 mph all the way. Very good for a 2.6 tons vehicle

scottybdiving 03-07-2008 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by HoustonRider (Post 2694691)
mostly its not tuned for maximum performance to appease the "masses". its tuned by the factory for a "window" of performance. From Old Ladies who drive on Sunday, to someone who tows crap with it, or stomps on it from light to light.

Its not hard to digest. all cars are managed by ECU's. Tapping into that "reserve power" is done by changing ECU mapping.

It is highly debated that the factory settings are a compromise between optimum performance and maximum longevity. I tend to drive a vehicle for a minimum of 5 years and usually over 200K, therefore I have never wanted to do anything that might decrease longevity.

I remember bypassing the governor on my minibike when I was a kid. I couldn't believe how much faster that thing would run, almost like it was getting a shot of NO2, until it kicked a rod right out of the block.


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