Pixs of the 2009 GL BlueTec at NY Auto Show

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Mar 23, 2008 | 03:30 PM

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Isn't it true that other manufacturers are finding different ways of becoming 50 state compliant?

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Both BMW and VW are using very similar systems.

Mar 23, 2008 | 04:19 PM

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Fahrer,

First, great to see you back in the forums.

Second, thank you for the better explanation of how the HP was reduced in the '09. Isn't it true that other manufacturers are finding different ways of becoming 50 state compliant?

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BMW, Audi and MB are all using the same treatment for their 09' diesels. Honda has a 4-cylinder Accord diesel that doesn't use this treatment, it should arrive sometime next year. So far I haven't seen a 6-cylinder or a V8 without adblue/bluetec technology. Honda and Nissan are working on V6s that won't need the same type of treatment, but they are some years off. Currently.

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Mar 23, 2008 | 05:03 PM

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What is the correct term for the ADSII button? I think it is labeled as having two settings, Comfort and Sport, and it gets abbreviated to C/S at times.

Also where is the 2nd DVD drive located? Still under passenger seat?

The ADS button has never used the abbreviation "C/S" it has always used "Comf / Sport"
The "C/S" button found in pass cars used to be "W/S" and is solely for the transmission.

There are three settings for ADS: Comfort, Automatic and Sport.

The first DVD player is in the head unit which can hold CD/DVD's at a time.
The second DVD player is located behind the front center console above the 12v outlet on the floor. It pulls open so a DVD can easily be dropped down into it.
There is no longer a player underneath the right 2nd row passenger seat. That space is now reserved for empty water bottles, loose change and the occasional french fry

NJ you are right again; the "Fake" Monroney you get at the auto show is a generalization for MY2009. It was printed a month ago prior to final options and pricing. This is why you wont see pricing or packaging (as a rule)
The car you see at the Auto show was ordered last summer (way before finalization) and built in December as a "Test" vehicle. None of those cars will be sold to the public. In fact, MY 2010 cars are now being planned and ordered for the 2009 NYIAS.

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Mar 23, 2008 | 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GL Fahrer

The first DVD player is in the head unit which can hold CD/DVD's at a time.
The second DVD player is located behind the front center console above the 12v outlet on the floor. It pulls open so a DVD can easily be dropped down into it.

Thanks, Fahrer, for the explanations. So, if I get it right, then the head unit player can hold 6 CDs and 1 DVD?

Mar 24, 2008 | 02:59 AM

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You know, I asked this once before and didn't get an answer; how does the AdBlue/Bluetec system reduce horsepower, if all it does is add urea in the exhaust system? This confuses me!

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AdBlue doesn't reduce HP ratings. MB is adopting the new SAE ratings in which all car makes (from all manufacturers) have gone down. Look at Honda/Acura, Toyota/Lexus. Honda was the 1st to adopt the new SAE standards a while back.

Mar 24, 2008 | 09:49 AM

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No one said AdBlue reduces HP. In this case, the addition of the SCR catalytic converter for BlueTEC SUV's reduces the 320's HP by 5.
This has nothing to do with any change in SAE ratings.

Mar 24, 2008 | 10:18 AM

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I am almost 100% sure the shift paddles are attached to the back of the steering wheel, just like the current buttons are. I don't think any MBs have the paddles attached to the steering column thingy.

Sorry, I actually meant that the new paddles would get in the way of sight lines of the other controls. Just don't care for them sticking up when the toggle versions on the back of the steering wheel seemed fine.

Mar 24, 2008 | 11:53 AM

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Looks like the stainless steel rear bumper plate will be standard on the 2009 GLs according to the pic. I hope so.

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Mar 24, 2008 | 01:15 PM

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Looks like the stainless steel rear bumper plate will be standard on the 2009 GLs according to the pic. I hope so.

Don't base standard or optional items on the new GL's by the car show models. Wait for the spec's to be posted on MBUSA web site.

Mar 24, 2008 | 01:19 PM

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Looks like the stainless steel rear bumper plate will be standard on the 2009 GLs according to the pic. I hope so.

Right again NJ. The NYIAS car is not the Standard car.
Skid plates are only standard on the GL550 and optional on the others.

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Mar 27, 2008 | 11:22 PM

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There is no longer a player underneath the right 2nd row passenger seat. That space is now reserved for empty water bottles, loose change and the occasional french fry.

Finally! A place for all the fries I drop.

Really glad to see MB relocate the player underneath the 2nd row seat.

Mar 28, 2008 | 11:56 AM

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Do you guys think the new Electronics for the 2009 GLs will get rid of the need for the MHI blue tooth puck? I hope so. I would certainly hope they some how integrated it into the nav system.

Mar 28, 2008 | 04:06 PM

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Do you guys think the new Electronics for the 2009 GLs will get rid of the need for the MHI blue tooth puck? I hope so. I would certainly hope they some how integrated it into the nav system.

Highly doubt that...........

Mar 28, 2008 | 07:11 PM

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Do you guys think the new Electronics for the 2009 GLs will get rid of the need for the MHI blue tooth puck? I hope so. I would certainly hope they some how integrated it into the nav system.

The puck is gone!!!
NTG 2.5 comes standard with Bluetooth connectivity and hands free communication.

Mar 28, 2008 | 07:20 PM

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The puck is gone!!!
NTG 2.5 comes standard with Bluetooth connectivity and hands free communication.

Yahoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mar 28, 2008 | 07:25 PM

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The puck is gone!!!
NTG 2.5 comes standard with Bluetooth connectivity and hands free communication.

I stand corrected and may I add a Hallelujah.

Mar 28, 2008 | 07:39 PM

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Mar 29, 2008 | 01:04 AM

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After my current car I want to get an S-Class but the GLs are tempting

I wish they would make a S320 CDI blue Tec that would really sell like hot cakes I know I would buy one.

Mar 29, 2008 | 01:31 AM

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I wish they would make a S320 CDI blue Tec that would really sell like hot cakes I know I would buy one.

They are - it's called the S400, and it's a V6 Bluetec with hybrid drive technology as well. They're estimating ~40mpg (I'm assuming that's city mileage, where hybrids thrive). It's slated for ... was it 2010?

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Mar 31, 2008 | 08:26 PM

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I stand corrected and may I add a Hallelujah.

I had a new C loaner for service on my wife's car a couple weeks ago...it had standard bluetooth, no puck, which i was easily able to use the "mouse" to connect to...it was great, and the connection seemed more easily established than those stupid pucks.