'07 ML-350 ESP Failure
03-20-2013, 09:02 PM
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'07 ML-350 ESP Failure
Driving along, highway speeds but not that fast...short jerky sensation
Dashboard lights up like 4th July... ESP Failure notice, Check Engine light, Yellow Triangle.... Message says Read the Owner's Manual. It says to take it your service guy who happens to not be that far away.
Service tech runs a diagnostic and all sorts of failures reported. Come back next Tuesday- today is a Wednesday. Looks likes left front wheel speed sensor. Tech tried to start the car but it was a slow start condition.
Diagnostic says the Cam Position Sensor was either bad or throwing off a bad signal, thus the hard to start condition.
Anyone familiar with these situations?
thanks for sharing your experience if any.
Dashboard lights up like 4th July... ESP Failure notice, Check Engine light, Yellow Triangle.... Message says Read the Owner's Manual. It says to take it your service guy who happens to not be that far away.
Service tech runs a diagnostic and all sorts of failures reported. Come back next Tuesday- today is a Wednesday. Looks likes left front wheel speed sensor. Tech tried to start the car but it was a slow start condition.
Diagnostic says the Cam Position Sensor was either bad or throwing off a bad signal, thus the hard to start condition.
Anyone familiar with these situations?
thanks for sharing your experience if any.
03-21-2013, 10:14 AM
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Seriously? Please provide reference on that...
Advanced computer code reader didn't mention that... then the car shuttered at 70mph it didn't feel like a low battery?
Advanced computer code reader didn't mention that... then the car shuttered at 70mph it didn't feel like a low battery?
03-21-2013, 11:02 AM
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What alx said. 
These cars are HIGHLY sensitive to battery voltage and charging system because there are computers and sensors that run EVERYTHING. When the system sees a voltage drop (could be very slight) things go haywire.
These cars are HIGHLY sensitive to battery voltage and charging system because there are computers and sensors that run EVERYTHING. When the system sees a voltage drop (could be very slight) things go haywire.
03-21-2013, 05:45 PM
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OK guys, I would not deny that things are complex, but... traveling along at 70 mph seems as if a low voltage condition would not be all that probable. Maybe low voltage could cause a hard start after a long rest but weak battery cause a failure on the left front wheel speed sensor?
Also seems as if the complete system diagnostic that revealed 7 different faults but not a weak battery would have reported it.
I know this well-respected independent shop and they have been taking care of a whole string of my Mercedes and BMWs. I also know the tech and have had diagnostics run before on cars I was considering buying. I would think they might discover a weak battery first if it was a common cause of the ESP failure.
Thanks for the replies though. I do appreciate it. I will let you know. Yes, I would rather replace the battery than do wheel and camshaft position sensors...
Also seems as if the complete system diagnostic that revealed 7 different faults but not a weak battery would have reported it.
I know this well-respected independent shop and they have been taking care of a whole string of my Mercedes and BMWs. I also know the tech and have had diagnostics run before on cars I was considering buying. I would think they might discover a weak battery first if it was a common cause of the ESP failure.
Thanks for the replies though. I do appreciate it. I will let you know. Yes, I would rather replace the battery than do wheel and camshaft position sensors...
03-21-2013, 06:17 PM
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No worries. As long as your tech did a load test on the battery then the other repairs seem legit.
Cam sensors are common and easy. Part is about $25 and takes 15-30 minutes depending on which one it is. Never dealt with wheel speed sensor but I "think" it is pretty accessible so hopefully not much labor there.
Good luck and let us know how it turns out!
Cam sensors are common and easy. Part is about $25 and takes 15-30 minutes depending on which one it is. Never dealt with wheel speed sensor but I "think" it is pretty accessible so hopefully not much labor there.
Good luck and let us know how it turns out!
