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Old Sep 6, 2019 | 11:28 PM
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I know it may be a stupid question but could I simply replace the radio with another factory radio to eliminate the battery drain? I sat in the vehicle for an hour and heard the radio spinning at least 3 times so I’m pretty confident that the radio is draining the battery.
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Old Mar 24, 2020 | 10:31 PM
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*****I purchased this 2007 GL450 4 Matic as a Birthday gift to myself. The Previous owner has a cord running from the front to the rear as if he had an after market Amp or Kicker Box speaker connected. Car needs a jump start after leaving it off over night. Where do I start the trouble shooting process? Has anyone had this issue with my year make and model?*****
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Old Mar 24, 2020 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Blast
Have any of you with power drains related to the COMAND interface (DVD, NAV, Radio etc) checked for stuck buttons?
A constant key push signal may keep the central gateway from shutting off all but keep alive power when the key is removed and the driver's door is closed.
Haven't tested this but it's an easy enough troubleshooting step - press every button and check for stuck or binding action. Slinging coffee and kids yoghurt around the cabin will usually do that.
*****I purchased this 2007 GL450 4 Matic as a Birthday gift to myself. The Previous owner has a cord running from the front to the rear as if he had an after market Amp or Kicker Box speaker connected. Car needs a jump start after leaving it off over night. Where do I start the trouble shooting process? Has anyone had this issue with my year make and model?*****
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Old Mar 24, 2020 | 10:33 PM
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So, wake up one morning, no advance warning ie sluggish battery previously and dead in the water. Jump it, run it considerably throughout the day. Dead again next morning. Assume battery has reached end of useful life. (it was a recently purchased used 07 GL with about 80K on it, had one previously from new, went to ML 2011 and quickly came back to my first Benz love)
Take a look at battery and hmmm - appears to have been replaced once already. So - really shouldn't need a new yet I would think. Take to parts store, test battery, appears fine according to conductive load test. now what?

Turn off all electrical convenience features, give it a good charge (but it never seems to want to get to full charge according to charger amp draw) Only have 2A and 10A charger settings and have heard you don't want to put more than 8A charge on these AGM batteries so go with 2A setting and start paying attention. Seem to hear RSE DVD spinning endlessly after key off. 10-15 minutes - then finally seems to go off but I continue to hear the Nav DVD doing a familiar disc access read clicking, that never stops. Turn everything off, have left off comand for days, step out of car in garage, shut door, leave window open so I can hear without having to open the door. Come back hours later. Disc access noises continues every 10 secs or so you can hear it doing something. Removed NAV DVD (it was HOT) with power off. Then you can still here is attempting to see if DVD still in the player. clunk......clunk and a little 'tink' in between from somewhere in the back (thinking the RSE)
This all seemed to start after setting Command to Rear and AUX settings when attempting to hook up ipod to RSE Aux inputs to listen to over speakers. (Never did get that to work) Remote for RSE seems to have few buttons that actually work.

With electrical features off, it's starting but some mornings barely. I just dont want to dump in a new battery unless I know I don't have a key off drain somewhere.

But - finally my question - any reason this device should continue to attempt to read and access the NAV DVD endlessly after key off. If I pull the fuse, will I not have other necessary functionality for driving. (don't care about loss of nav locations saves etc. haven't that many) But do care if I have to go and get something reset - reloaded etc once power is lost to CC. I wanted to leave fuse out for day or two and see if perceived battery drain issue ends. Don't have tools for accurate AMP draw test at key off. (Well I do have a very old volt, ohm, in line Amp meter) But according to this, at 11.8 to 12.1ish V my battery should be completely dead?!

Wondering if anyone has had any similar experiences. Next step key off draw test with and without Radio fuse in place I guess.... also wanted to verify fuse 25 (Radio) and should I pull fuse 23 for RSE at the same time?

Spent a lot of time looking for other posts on subject. All you folks are great I have to say.

Thanks for any advice that can be provided.

FYI - I have been experiencing a few other strange electricals. directional headlamps that want to go out for a few seconds after corner returns (right only) not certain if related or not.

Love the GL! (but after a lot of research here wondering if I might be on borrowed time for some pretty expensive repairs shortly.....suspension, struts, etc.)
*****I purchased this 2007 GL450 4 Matic as a Birthday gift to myself. The Previous owner has a cord running from the front to the rear as if he had an after market Amp or Kicker Box speaker connected. Car needs a jump start after leaving it off over night. Where do I start the trouble shooting process? Has anyone had this issue with my year make and model?*****
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Old Mar 24, 2020 | 11:17 PM
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Beezalino - you only need to ask the question once!

Start with some of the suggestions presented above (read through every response) and then let us know what you've done. Otherwise, we may just be repeating ourselves for no good reason. Once we have more info, we can help better.

What does this "cord" connect to (on both ends)?
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Old Dec 15, 2024 | 06:32 PM
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Fuse 25 culprit

Has anyone figured out the draining source from fuse 25? I have the exact same problem with my battery dying. As soon as I figured out it was fuse 25 and I removed it I haven’t had a problem since. But I would love to have a radio and back up camera again!

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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Cole Campbell
Has anyone figured out the draining source from fuse 25? I have the exact same problem with my battery dying. As soon as I figured out it was fuse 25 and I removed it I haven’t had a problem since. But I would love to have a radio and back up camera again!

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Check the info in the threads above - I didn't read back through each one, and it's been a while since this thread was active, but I know there was info in there to help you with your question. But, in the end, you need to start tracking down the wiring and whatever systems are on that fuse.
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Old Dec 21, 2024 | 03:05 PM
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Happy holidays from Sweden!

Super thankful for this thread - have spent the last days in my GL350 to find the source of battery drain, bought a new amp clamp yesterday when I found this thread and right now I’m in the car since 2h..

Have had multiple weird problems with the car over the last six months - battery, SRS, Airmatic, ABS etc, and I’m pretty sure all is because of the low battery from parasite drain..

Found that fuse 23 & 25 solves most of it - I could hear front CD tray being activated every minute or so previously.

Before removing fuse 23 & 25 I had a constant drainage of about 6-7 amp. Now after removing fuses it’s shifting between 2 amp and 0,4 amp (400mA) every other second. Been doing that for an hour and goes into the same mode after unlocking/locking and waiting until it shuts down. Car closed and locked.

Any ideas why it’s still shifting between 400mA and 2 amps? Have tried removing/measured most of the back right fuses, but still the same.

The exact rotation is about five seconds and looks like this: 2,0 - 1,5 - 0,4 amp —> repeat

Would be very thankful for any kind of input!

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Old Dec 21, 2024 | 03:34 PM
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And a follow up question to the above - anyone who’ve figured out how to solve the root problem and still have fuse 23 & 25 connected, to be able to use the stereo?
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Old Dec 21, 2024 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GL350_Sweden
And a follow up question to the above - anyone who’ve figured out how to solve the root problem and still have fuse 23 & 25 connected, to be able to use the stereo?
if it is stereo related maybe have a look under left seat as well as the amplifier is there (if fitted).

have double checked all the discs are ejected? Including the navigation? Just incase you have a jambed disk

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Old Dec 21, 2024 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by wannawagon
if it is stereo related maybe have a look under left seat as well as the amplifier is there (if fitted).

have double checked all the discs are ejected? Including the navigation? Just incase you have a jambed disk
Hey! Navigation is on hard drive on this one I think (model 2010)..

And yes, I’ve tried to check that all CD’s are ejected but if there’s one stuck, how would I know?
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Old Dec 21, 2024 | 11:56 PM
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Hey! Navigation is on hard drive on this one I think (model 2010)..

And yes, I’ve tried to check that all CD’s are ejected but if there’s one stuck, how would I know?
you could add the 6 (assuming six disc magazine) and see if it accepts them all.

don’t forget when you turn power on after battery disconnect it will do a grind through the magazine to see which ones are full
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Old Dec 22, 2024 | 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by wannawagon
you could add the 6 (assuming six disc magazine) and see if it accepts them all.

don’t forget when you turn power on after battery disconnect it will do a grind through the magazine to see which ones are full
Good suggestion - will try that today.

Any ideas what could cause the 400mA <> 2 amp drain?
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Originally Posted by GL350_Sweden
Good suggestion - will try that today.

Any ideas what could cause the 400mA <> 2 amp drain?
all I can think is to check both sams. Rear Beside spare tyre well on right under fuse box (pull out spare and see if water). Other is under front right seat in your model. The GL leaks in water from sunroof. Tail light seals rear windows and the plastic moonroof. Good luck
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Update to future readers: Parasitic drain problem seems to be completely solved now after removing fuses 23/25 overnight and then inserting 6 retro discs in the CD changer after installing fuses again.

Not sure if removing and putting back the fuses solved it or filling up the shuttle with some 90’s soul and rock, but give both a try! (don’t try pop or metal)

Will update if problem comes back again, if not I guess this solved it long term!

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Old Dec 27, 2024 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GL350_Sweden
Update to future readers: Parasitic drain problem seems to be completely solved now after removing fuses 23/25 overnight and then inserting 6 retro discs in the CD changer after installing fuses again.

Will update if problem comes back again, if not I guess this solved it long term!
New update: Problem came back with a dead battery, so have now removed fuse 23 & 25 again, will have to check for a few days that it’s staying functional now and if so, mount a relay over these fuses to ignition.
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Old Dec 28, 2024 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by wannawagon
all I can think is to check both sams. Rear Beside spare tyre well on right under fuse box (pull out spare and see if water). Other is under front right seat in your model. The GL leaks in water from sunroof. Tail light seals rear windows and the plastic moonroof. Good luck
This. Most likely the SAM and water intrusion.
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New update: Problem came back with a dead battery, so have now removed fuse 23 & 25 again, will have to check for a few days that it’s staying functional now and if so, mount a relay over these fuses to ignition.
probably worthwhile to see if the problem can be narrowed down to only one of those two (to save you putting in two relays).

there is plenty of room in the centre console behind the aircon controls etc to have the relays.

the early 164 was easy to change radio units from a wreck (as long as the car you got the unit from had the same or more features) but I think after the 08 update that was not possible

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Originally Posted by wannawagon
probably worthwhile to see if the problem can be narrowed down to only one of those two (to save you putting in two relays).
I've already bridged the relays over the two rear fuses—works great for fixing the battery drain issue. However, the radio now starts with a buzz, loses its memory, and has no saved channels. Planning to physically remove the CD changer—anyone know how? It's the version where all discs are inserted into the COMAND unit, not the glovebox.
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