Whats your current mileage on your x164
#101
#102
225,000 miles. 2008 GL 450
Bought it as a beater to haul the kids and dog in so they don't destroy my daily driver. Also need to put them as far back out of my ear as possible! It was the best condition I could find comparing to what I had looked at previously. But I believe it was driven by a women (I'm going to get smacked for that). Both rear wheel well flairs were scraped up as if they couldn't park.
I've only had it 2 months but so far I have:
Recharged A/C
Airmatic to Spring conversion
Replaced all rack and pinion bushings
Tune-up (air filters and spark plugs)
Need to do:
Tranny flush
Fix liftgate issue
Repair small rust spot
Not working but don't care to bother fixing:
Parking sensors. Pushing button on causes them to just go crazy they all beep and light up to the red, then the system disables itself. Not sure what that could be, don't really care that much as I can drive without them (not my first GL) and at least I have a backup camera. But if it's an easy fix let me know!
Bought it as a beater to haul the kids and dog in so they don't destroy my daily driver. Also need to put them as far back out of my ear as possible! It was the best condition I could find comparing to what I had looked at previously. But I believe it was driven by a women (I'm going to get smacked for that). Both rear wheel well flairs were scraped up as if they couldn't park.
I've only had it 2 months but so far I have:
Recharged A/C
Airmatic to Spring conversion
Replaced all rack and pinion bushings
Tune-up (air filters and spark plugs)
Need to do:
Tranny flush
Fix liftgate issue
Repair small rust spot
Not working but don't care to bother fixing:
Parking sensors. Pushing button on causes them to just go crazy they all beep and light up to the red, then the system disables itself. Not sure what that could be, don't really care that much as I can drive without them (not my first GL) and at least I have a backup camera. But if it's an easy fix let me know!
#104
225,000 miles. 2008 GL 450
Bought it as a beater to haul the kids and dog in so they don't destroy my daily driver. Also need to put them as far back out of my ear as possible! It was the best condition I could find comparing to what I had looked at previously. But I believe it was driven by a women (I'm going to get smacked for that). Both rear wheel well flairs were scraped up as if they couldn't park.
I've only had it 2 months but so far I have:
Recharged A/C
Airmatic to Spring conversion
Replaced all rack and pinion bushings
Tune-up (air filters and spark plugs)
Need to do:
Tranny flush
Fix liftgate issue
Repair small rust spot
Not working but don't care to bother fixing:
Parking sensors. Pushing button on causes them to just go crazy they all beep and light up to the red, then the system disables itself. Not sure what that could be, don't really care that much as I can drive without them (not my first GL) and at least I have a backup camera. But if it's an easy fix let me know!
Bought it as a beater to haul the kids and dog in so they don't destroy my daily driver. Also need to put them as far back out of my ear as possible! It was the best condition I could find comparing to what I had looked at previously. But I believe it was driven by a women (I'm going to get smacked for that). Both rear wheel well flairs were scraped up as if they couldn't park.
I've only had it 2 months but so far I have:
Recharged A/C
Airmatic to Spring conversion
Replaced all rack and pinion bushings
Tune-up (air filters and spark plugs)
Need to do:
Tranny flush
Fix liftgate issue
Repair small rust spot
Not working but don't care to bother fixing:
Parking sensors. Pushing button on causes them to just go crazy they all beep and light up to the red, then the system disables itself. Not sure what that could be, don't really care that much as I can drive without them (not my first GL) and at least I have a backup camera. But if it's an easy fix let me know!
So here is what I know to be issues; I have a 2011 X164 GL 550 (105k miles). until 100k I only had dealer do work.
- All 4 Struts have a lifespan of 60-80k (each $1500 at dealer to replace (yes $6k))
- thermostat has gone 2x ($750) each time. (it's attached to the engine block; you simply can not swap it out)
- the keyless go and sensor network is pure trash. They state that the connectors break or get corroded due to salt etc. (Isn't this an outside vehicle? kinda like an SUV... or is SUV for summertime useless vehicle). 1st network replacement was $2200 at 45k, and dealer helped out. I now live without Keyless go as I'm not spending $2200 to fix their engineering failure (again).
- check your physical key into the door, that door lock froze/rusted due to "lack of activity" The car has keyless entry? why would I use the physical key?!? You need to do this so it doesn't (freeze) (when the battery is fully drained, you get to enjoy this)
- the SAM and Battery are good for 8-10yrs. I just had to replace my set ($2000)
- tires... get a true set of summer and winter wheel/tires. The weight and softness of the summer tires limit them to 20-25k. Winter tires also make the GL a beast in snow.
- brakes... 30-40k. go to a brake guy or local guy. you'll save about $3-400 off of dealer.
- find a mechanic outside of the MB dealership for routine items. The oil changes/wiper replacements/transmission flush/brake flush are better done by guys that do them as a livelihood. For complex issues, go back to dealer.
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It makes me a bit ill when I see someone overspend at the dealer. Much better and cheaper options in the aftermarket and either DIY or pay an indy to swap. I don't think I ever spent more than $500 per front axle including the part and that's with parts that include a lifetime warranty so the next time was less than $200/axle. The rear bags are very easy to DIY and take very little time/effort.
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#107
The thermostat is housed in the Tstat housing. It bolts to the block with 2 bolts. OEM unit which is gasket, tstat housing, and tstat is 100$ new OEM part. 45 minute job to swap it.
I, about to do mine next week, if interested I can make a headcam Vlog of it
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Diamond Dave (10-16-2023)
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142,000 - Been through the mountains many times and still going strong
Love the GL450. Found a local mechanic specializes in Mercedes - no more big repair bills. It’s has taken us where there are no roads, fjording over streams and up/down some pretty nasty inclines/declines. Fits the whole family - takes us anywhere safely and in style. 142,000 miles so far…
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#112
Just crossed 120,000 this morning going to Costco and getting gas! Everything is doing great, but slight steering issue that pops up now and then. I don't know if it's the pump, the valve, or the rack. But it vibrates really bad, then gets really heavy like there isn't any PS, then fine for the rest of the time. Weird.
Anyway, lets see what I've done: Front wheel bearings, all four air bags, front struts/rear shocks, AC compressor seized, weird corrosion with some plugs under the seat (moisture intrusion), transmission conductor plate, transfer case leak, floppy mirror, cam plugs & cyclone, rear hatch latch. I think that's about it.
Everything else is regular maintenance w/ 10k oil changes/5k filter changes, fluids all changed front to back/top to bottom at 100k, rotors and pads at some point, spark plugs. Engine is freakishly perfect, with zero oil leaks or any issues. Everything else sort of makes me nervous though! I'm due for water pump, alternator, starter in the foreseeable future, but really no problems at this point with any of them. I have the above-mentioned steering issue I'll take it in for at some point, but kind of ignoring it for now.
Mileage back when this was a commuter/family vehicle was a little over 14. Now that it's really just for road trips and occasional around town it's up to 16.3MPG over the last 8,000 miles.
Anyway, lets see what I've done: Front wheel bearings, all four air bags, front struts/rear shocks, AC compressor seized, weird corrosion with some plugs under the seat (moisture intrusion), transmission conductor plate, transfer case leak, floppy mirror, cam plugs & cyclone, rear hatch latch. I think that's about it.
Everything else is regular maintenance w/ 10k oil changes/5k filter changes, fluids all changed front to back/top to bottom at 100k, rotors and pads at some point, spark plugs. Engine is freakishly perfect, with zero oil leaks or any issues. Everything else sort of makes me nervous though! I'm due for water pump, alternator, starter in the foreseeable future, but really no problems at this point with any of them. I have the above-mentioned steering issue I'll take it in for at some point, but kind of ignoring it for now.
Mileage back when this was a commuter/family vehicle was a little over 14. Now that it's really just for road trips and occasional around town it's up to 16.3MPG over the last 8,000 miles.
#113
I rolled past 250K last month. Trying to decide if it is worth keeping at this point as an extra vehicle. It needs a new set of tires, battery, a windshield and the A/C recently mostly stopped working. No errors show up in Xentry, but the high side pressure is low (170ish PSI) and some vents blow cooler than others although none are the normal level of cold. If it needs a new compressor that will be the end of the road.
#114
I rolled past 250K last month. Trying to decide if it is worth keeping at this point as an extra vehicle. It needs a new set of tires, battery, a windshield and the A/C recently mostly stopped working. No errors show up in Xentry, but the high side pressure is low (170ish PSI) and some vents blow cooler than others although none are the normal level of cold. If it needs a new compressor that will be the end of the road.
Oh yeah, I should have mentioned the clear coat is shot above windshield/in front of sunroof. Otherwise still looks nice outside and inside!
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#116
Everything else sort of makes me nervous though! I'm due for water pump, alternator, starter in the foreseeable future, but really no problems at this point with any of them.
At around 120K, why do you think you are due for water pump and alternator.
I understand the starter issues is a known problem with these cars but wp and alternator??
I’m at 125K as of today and same here, all the fluids changed from top to bottom. I go with 6-7K oil changes.
Just did a tranny fluid change last weekend as well as the trans case.
Diffs changed beginning of the summer.
Spark plugs and centrifuge cap changed around May also.
Only issue so far AC compressor quit just beginning of July, 3 days before a thousand mile trip. I did not have the time to wait for an order and tackle with that so I take it to my indie and after $1200 I got ice cold AC the next day.
Seems like the first owner got the suspension work around 80-85K and I bought the car at 105K little more than a year ago.
My favorite feature thou, the cooling seats on the 550, it’s perfect for Colorado, it’s warm outside but not enough to run the AC, just tilt the sunroof and rear wing windows and turn the cooling on, since the windows are still up, you don’t get any noise.
Or in the summer when the AC is on then the cooling on the seats, especially on the long drives your clothes does not stick to the leather seats.
At around 120K, why do you think you are due for water pump and alternator.
I understand the starter issues is a known problem with these cars but wp and alternator??
I’m at 125K as of today and same here, all the fluids changed from top to bottom. I go with 6-7K oil changes.
Just did a tranny fluid change last weekend as well as the trans case.
Diffs changed beginning of the summer.
Spark plugs and centrifuge cap changed around May also.
Only issue so far AC compressor quit just beginning of July, 3 days before a thousand mile trip. I did not have the time to wait for an order and tackle with that so I take it to my indie and after $1200 I got ice cold AC the next day.
Seems like the first owner got the suspension work around 80-85K and I bought the car at 105K little more than a year ago.
My favorite feature thou, the cooling seats on the 550, it’s perfect for Colorado, it’s warm outside but not enough to run the AC, just tilt the sunroof and rear wing windows and turn the cooling on, since the windows are still up, you don’t get any noise.
Or in the summer when the AC is on then the cooling on the seats, especially on the long drives your clothes does not stick to the leather seats.
#117
Everything else sort of makes me nervous though! I'm due for water pump, alternator, starter in the foreseeable future, but really no problems at this point with any of them.
At around 120K, why do you think you are due for water pump and alternator.
I understand the starter issues is a known problem with these cars but wp and alternator??
I’m at 125K as of today and same here, all the fluids changed from top to bottom. I go with 6-7K oil changes.
Just did a tranny fluid change last weekend as well as the trans case.
Diffs changed beginning of the summer.
Spark plugs and centrifuge cap changed around May also.
Only issue so far AC compressor quit just beginning of July, 3 days before a thousand mile trip. I did not have the time to wait for an order and tackle with that so I take it to my indie and after $1200 I got ice cold AC the next day.
Seems like the first owner got the suspension work around 80-85K and I bought the car at 105K little more than a year ago.
My favorite feature thou, the cooling seats on the 550, it’s perfect for Colorado, it’s warm outside but not enough to run the AC, just tilt the sunroof and rear wing windows and turn the cooling on, since the windows are still up, you don’t get any noise.
Or in the summer when the AC is on then the cooling on the seats, especially on the long drives your clothes does not stick to the leather seats.
At around 120K, why do you think you are due for water pump and alternator.
I understand the starter issues is a known problem with these cars but wp and alternator??
I’m at 125K as of today and same here, all the fluids changed from top to bottom. I go with 6-7K oil changes.
Just did a tranny fluid change last weekend as well as the trans case.
Diffs changed beginning of the summer.
Spark plugs and centrifuge cap changed around May also.
Only issue so far AC compressor quit just beginning of July, 3 days before a thousand mile trip. I did not have the time to wait for an order and tackle with that so I take it to my indie and after $1200 I got ice cold AC the next day.
Seems like the first owner got the suspension work around 80-85K and I bought the car at 105K little more than a year ago.
My favorite feature thou, the cooling seats on the 550, it’s perfect for Colorado, it’s warm outside but not enough to run the AC, just tilt the sunroof and rear wing windows and turn the cooling on, since the windows are still up, you don’t get any noise.
Or in the summer when the AC is on then the cooling on the seats, especially on the long drives your clothes does not stick to the leather seats.
The 100 mile AAA tow insurance pays for itself!
But no, I don't have a specific concern, just keeping my eye on those parts that can fail and are original.
Steering is my immediate issue right now :-/
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Dinismb (10-17-2023)
#118
I come from the BMW world, so I always expect the water pump, starter, and alternator to go out at any given moment!!!
The 100 mile AAA tow insurance pays for itself!
But no, I don't have a specific concern, just keeping my eye on those parts that can fail and are original.
Steering is my immediate issue right now :-/
The 100 mile AAA tow insurance pays for itself!
But no, I don't have a specific concern, just keeping my eye on those parts that can fail and are original.
Steering is my immediate issue right now :-/
The alternator, starter, and battery form a three-legged stool. The battery failing will drag the alternator down; the alternator failing will drag the battery down. The starter failing will drag both down.
The primary cable from the engine compartment post to the alternator is a weak link. With the motor running, check for voltage drop along the cable.
The starter seems to be about a 120k mile item; the alternator about 180k, and the battery about six years. The starter runs till it doesn't, the alternator can easily be tested, the battery less easily but still not too difficult.
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My water pump died at 100k miles. I mean, it absolutely shipped the bed. Was pouring out like a hole was blown in the pump. I never had to replace the starter or alternator and I owned it for around 13 years. I think environment plays a difference in those parts and living in Florida probably helps a lot.
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#120
The water pump appears to have a very long life. If I recall correctly, @BlownV8 got north of 250k without needing to replace the water pump.
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My water pump died at 100k miles. I mean, it absolutely shipped the bed. Was pouring out like a hole was blown in the pump. I never had to replace the starter or alternator and I owned it for around 13 years. I think environment plays a difference in those parts and living in Florida probably helps a lot.
That water pump failure sounds like a manufacturing defect. Normally the shaft seal wears out and the pump gradually starts leaking out the front.
Starter is usage based; with as many miles as you racked up, I'm guessing you did longer trips, meaning the starter activity was relatively lower.
I am surprised the alternator lasted that long. It is mostly the brushes wearing the commutator. Maybe with highway driving, engine revolutions per mile were lower.
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#122
The water pump appears to have a very long life. If I recall correctly, @BlownV8 got north of 250k without needing to replace the water pump.
The alternator, starter, and battery form a three-legged stool. The battery failing will drag the alternator down; the alternator failing will drag the battery down. The starter failing will drag both down.
The primary cable from the engine compartment post to the alternator is a weak link. With the motor running, check for voltage drop along the cable.
The starter seems to be about a 120k mile item; the alternator about 180k, and the battery about six years. The starter runs till it doesn't, the alternator can easily be tested, the battery less easily but still not too difficult.
The alternator, starter, and battery form a three-legged stool. The battery failing will drag the alternator down; the alternator failing will drag the battery down. The starter failing will drag both down.
The primary cable from the engine compartment post to the alternator is a weak link. With the motor running, check for voltage drop along the cable.
The starter seems to be about a 120k mile item; the alternator about 180k, and the battery about six years. The starter runs till it doesn't, the alternator can easily be tested, the battery less easily but still not too difficult.
But now it's a moot point...
Nothing real bad, but I have a bad feeling it will get totaled out :-( Hood, bumper, bumper cover/grill, and light will need to be replaced. Nothing too terrible beyond that. Air pump is good, steering/suspension didn't take a hit (I don't think). But I'm guessing insurance will only say it's worth around $6k, and I think the work needed will be right around there...
Everyone's okay, we were in the number one lane and a car merged into us from the number two lane. They should be 100% at fault, but still TBD by claims.
/sigh
#123
144k. Biggest (and only) non-routine repair: Replaced alternator. Going in for trans fluid/filter change next week. Other than that, I replaced the coolant, front & rear brake pads, oil & filter, I've only had the SUV since January 2023.
#124
Oh, glad you mentioned the pos cable... we had to get that done last year, forgot about that.
But now it's a moot point...
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Nothing real bad, but I have a bad feeling it will get totaled out :-( Hood, bumper, bumper cover/grill, and light will need to be replaced. Nothing too terrible beyond that. Air pump is good, steering/suspension didn't take a hit (I don't think). But I'm guessing insurance will only say it's worth around $6k, and I think the work needed will be right around there...
Everyone's okay, we were in the number one lane and a car merged into us from the number two lane. They should be 100% at fault, but still TBD by claims.
/sigh
But now it's a moot point...
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Nothing real bad, but I have a bad feeling it will get totaled out :-( Hood, bumper, bumper cover/grill, and light will need to be replaced. Nothing too terrible beyond that. Air pump is good, steering/suspension didn't take a hit (I don't think). But I'm guessing insurance will only say it's worth around $6k, and I think the work needed will be right around there...
Everyone's okay, we were in the number one lane and a car merged into us from the number two lane. They should be 100% at fault, but still TBD by claims.
/sigh
If you are emotionally attached to the vehicle, consider buying it from the insurance company for salvage cost.
Reminds me of the imperative to get my dash cam hooked back up. We have to expect people are going to get weirder out there.
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#125
Not super emotionally attached, but a lot of $$$ and time invested in it. Which is the topic of this thread, right! It's a shame as it was a REALLY good vehicle that we kept up on. Fingers crossed it can be repaired, but ready for anything.