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Old 03-15-2023, 08:29 PM
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Question Airmatic Deflation Mystery

I may have purchased front struts in advance of further diagnosing this problem but my 2011 GL450 is experiencing the following symptoms:

- Suspension sits normally when engine running
- Switch engine off with car doors closed and front deflates flat.
- Open the door before switching the engine off, suspension stays inflated in the front.

If I open the door and then turn the car off, the airmatic maintains height throughout the night. .

I assume the front strut left or right is not leaking if it maintains height for more than 8 hours.

Any thoughts?
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Now just one GL450 with EORP.
Opening a door is a trigger to re-level the suspension. Does it try to raise the front if you open the door after it has deflated?
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Originally Posted by Uranium238
I assume the front strut left or right is not leaking if it maintains height for more than 8 hours.

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Leaks can be difficult because the bellow folds. If the hold is small and in the right spot, the fold of the bellow may allow it to seal. However, when this position changes, the hole is exposed and air leaks.

Set the car to the highest setting see if you get the same result. Just be away, the higher the pressure in the below, the more likely the hole is going to grow quickly and suffer rapid deflation.
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Originally Posted by Max Blast
Opening a door is a trigger to re-level the suspension. Does it try to raise the front if you open the door after it has deflated?
This is the strange part, it's not deflated at all whether the door is opened or closed while running/driving. Only deflates after shutting car off without opening the door.

Just went out and looked at it. Height never changed after last 12 hours. Took a tape measure to confirm it too.

Either way, the struts are coming off and new Bilsteins are going in once the weather cooperates. I have a bad axle too on the driver side. Axles are also on the to do list at the same time.

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Well, it’s not your bags. So I don’t think you need to go ahead and replace them unless they are an off brand Chinesium crap shoot, there is something going on with your ECU giving a signal to deflate.

so if the suspension will deflate overnight without you opening a door while it’s running how are you getting out of the car?

it might be interesting to note what the residual pressure in the system is, if you did open the door. What might be going on is that the car is being tricked into a keep alive circuit and is inflating the front struts overnight, de depleting, the battery, and the central pressurized air Reservoir. Neither situation’s is good.
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Originally Posted by Uranium238
I may have purchased front struts in advance of further diagnosing this problem but my 2011 GL450 is experiencing the following symptoms:

- Suspension sits normally when engine running - CAN YOU hear the compressor running?
- Switch engine off with car doors closed and front deflates flat. HOW LONG DoeS iT TAKE TO DEFLATE? Instant or overnight?
- Open the door before switching the engine off, suspension stays inflated in the front. HOW LONG for? Does it sag after a few days?

If I open the door and then turn the car off, the airmatic maintains height throughout the night. .

I assume the front strut left or right is not leaking if it maintains height for more than 8 hours.

Any thoughts?
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I’ve got some questions tagged to your quote. Sorry for the shouting.

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Driver side bag had failed. The leak was toward the top and would seal when the bellow folded during airmatic reset by opening the door.

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