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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 07:06 PM
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 10:30 PM
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 12:12 AM
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 07:57 AM
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 09:29 AM
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 03:55 PM
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Great! Now we need to get everyone to post their insights and experiences here! I plan on giving the new model a good hard look......possiblly order in late November IF... they have lifted the constraints on the options!

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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 03:04 PM
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Great! Now we need to get everyone to post their insights and experiences here! I plan on giving the new model a good hard look......possiblly order in late November IF... they have lifted the constraints on the options!
I'm a newcomer to Benz shopping and am looking to order the GL450. What are you refering to "constraints on the options!" ?


Also, any recomendations on which market to buy from? Denver dealers (only 3) aren't that friendly and helpfull. I get the feeling that if your not in a 3 piece suit, they don't want to talk to you.

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Old Oct 18, 2012 | 02:18 AM
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Constraints on options referring to supply chain issues. Some options may hold back your order weeks or months due to limited availability.
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Old Oct 18, 2012 | 08:28 AM
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Also, let's hear where everyone is getting a good deal on these new GLs. I can see that the dealer will want retail for a new model, but economic conditions seem more in the buyer's favor ie closer to invoice. I'm willing to buy my GL anywhere in the country.
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Old Oct 18, 2012 | 10:31 AM
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Constraints on options referring to supply chain issues. Some options may hold back your order weeks or months due to limited availability.
Is the option for the power folding 2nd row officially dead for 2013? I have heard mixed things from dealer/online. I feel this would be a great enhancement...
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Old Oct 18, 2012 | 10:34 AM
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Also, let's hear where everyone is getting a good deal on these new GLs. I can see that the dealer will want retail for a new model, but economic conditions seem more in the buyer's favor ie closer to invoice. I'm willing to buy my GL anywhere in the country.
I see you are from NoVa. I spoke with someone from Euro Bethesda on the phone and they said $2,500 off MRSP if you order one. He had called be back based on an inquiry through Costco buying program.

I tried a dealer up in Baltimore and they at $1,500 off over E-mail.

Would like to hear other peoples experiences but I am thinking can go to $3-4k?

I am tempted to order one with lead time for December delivery and hope MBUSA puts some winter event incentives on them. I assume that's a slim chance on brand new model though right? I am also looking at the GL350 and know the diesels often get excluded from factory incentives...
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Old Oct 18, 2012 | 05:46 PM
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I'm in Denver and the dealers here are talking MSRP only. I have one New York dealer said he will go invoice for me if I order it. That is about $5100 off MSRP. I think that is pretty good??? He sent me the order guide and I'm putting together the car I want. I can't take delivery till Jan, so not in a real big hurry.
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Is the option for the power folding 2nd row officially dead for 2013? I have heard mixed things from dealer/online. I feel this would be a great enhancement...
When I spoke to my dealer two weeks ago he confirmed to me that the 2nd row power folding and 360 camera won't be available until MY2014 and that's also the same general consensus on the forum right now.
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Old Oct 18, 2012 | 08:32 PM
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I'm in Denver and the dealers here are talking MSRP only.
Hi, you might want to search the X164 forum on posts by NevadaJack. Jack lived in Vegas but always bought his MB's from Colorado because they had the best price. That was years ago and I realize times change, but it's worth a try.

I seem to remember he'd post his salesman's name and contact information, so you might be able to find a direct line.

I'm not sure what's happened to NevadaJack. He was retired military and I noticed he hasn't posted to the forums in quite some time.
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I made the rounds one more time yesterday, to Denver dealers, (we only have 3) and they are still at MSRP. One said if I ordered "right then" he might be able to get $1k off??? Looks like I'm ordering from New York at invoice.

Denver dealers did say the the 2nd row power seat was going to be available on the MY14.
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Old Oct 19, 2012 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by JDAALLEN
I'm in Denver and the dealers here are talking MSRP only. I have one New York dealer said he will go invoice for me if I order it. That is about $5100 off MSRP. I think that is pretty good??? He sent me the order guide and I'm putting together the car I want. I can't take delivery till Jan, so not in a real big hurry.
Do you mind posting the details or PMing about your dealer in new york? Inconvenient but I would drive up there for and additional $2,600 savings.

I have never ordered a car before. I am planning to trade in an ML, which adds a level of complexity. In my state the trade will offset the sale price when calculating tax, so trading make sense to me unless I can get more than 2,000 more on a private sale. However I feel if I order, dealer will give me a ballpark on the ML, but 2 months later can screw me a little bit on the trade value, when the new GL is sitting there ready for delivery.

Anyone have any advice on dealing with this? The feeling from the dealers I have spoken with is the value will generally be the same if I just put 1-2k miles on it, but I can see "generally" being up to interpretation when the new vehicle actually arrives. Worst comes to worse just private sell it or go to carmax then, but figure will be loosing out on $2k tax benefit at least...

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However I feel if I order, dealer will give me a ballpark on the ML, but 2 months later can screw me a little bit on the trade value, when the new GL is sitting there ready for delivery.

Anyone have any advice on dealing with this?
I had the same situation when ordering my 2013 GL350 and trading my 2007 GL450. I tried to get them to commit to a price for my trade but let me drive it for about 3 months while I waited for my new vehicle. They weren't willing to take that risk (accident, mileage, repairs, etc). I wasn't willing to be captive to their whims when my new vehicle arrived for the same reasons you stated.

I ended up settling on a price for my trade-in value, surrendering the car immediately, and having the dealership hold the money in escrow until my new vehicle comes in. Holding in escrow was necessary to have it be a 'trade-in' and save the sales tax implications.
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I had the same situation when ordering my 2013 GL350 and trading my 2007 GL450. I tried to get them to commit to a price for my trade but let me drive it for about 3 months while I waited for my new vehicle. They weren't willing to take that risk (accident, mileage, repairs, etc). I wasn't willing to be captive to their whims when my new vehicle arrived for the same reasons you stated.

I ended up settling on a price for my trade-in value, surrendering the car immediately, and having the dealership hold the money in escrow until my new vehicle comes in. Holding in escrow was necessary to have it be a 'trade-in' and save the sales tax implications.
Jim, thanks for that advice I appreciate it. That makes a lot of sense and I may go that route. Thanks!
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When I spoke to my dealer two weeks ago he confirmed to me that the 2nd row power folding and 360 camera won't be available until MY2014 and that's also the same general consensus on the forum right now.
It's difficult to know what exactly the true story is. Here in Canada vehicles are guaranteed to have the 360 Camera starting on vehicles on the second production date of Nov. (MB has no choice, in Canada the 360 camera plus active park assist is listed as a Standard feature). The power Easy Entry is slated for the Third Production run of Feb/Mar.
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Originally Posted by JimBarnhart
Hi, you might want to search the X164 forum on posts by NevadaJack. Jack lived in Vegas but always bought his MB's from Colorado because they had the best price. That was years ago and I realize times change, but it's worth a try.

I seem to remember he'd post his salesman's name and contact information, so you might be able to find a direct line.

I'm not sure what's happened to NevadaJack. He was retired military and I noticed he hasn't posted to the forums in quite some time.
What a great resource he was .... a number of us were "newbies" to the GL back then and his prior MB experience was a terrific help!
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It's difficult to know what exactly the true story is. Here in Canada vehicles are guaranteed to have the 360 Camera starting on vehicles on the second production date of Nov. (MB has no choice, in Canada the 360 camera plus active park assist is listed as a Standard feature). The power Easy Entry is slated for the Third Production run of Feb/Mar.
Very interesting.....particularly since all of them are made here in the U.S. I think all of the european models also come with the on/off road package as standard as well.
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