Longevity of the GL Bluetec?
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GL350 Bluetec and GLS580
Good, I replaced my right rear air strut on my w164 (Bluetec) and updated the relay from green to black or vice versa.
Now what I have noticed is that when I walk into the garage I hear the pump running on my X166 but I assumed it was do to the key being in proximity (I don't have Keyless go this time around) but just last night I went to work on the Mrs. Homelink programming on her new car and heard the pump running yet I didn't have my key with me. Hopefully I don't have a slow leak.
Now what I have noticed is that when I walk into the garage I hear the pump running on my X166 but I assumed it was do to the key being in proximity (I don't have Keyless go this time around) but just last night I went to work on the Mrs. Homelink programming on her new car and heard the pump running yet I didn't have my key with me. Hopefully I don't have a slow leak.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion - and frankly comparing 1st gen X164 with 2nd Gen X166 - whether gas or diesel - is inherently flawed. There are few-to-none "inherited" problems from X164 to X166 - which is all that it should be in next/new gen.
In large part from what I read here - or didn't read reported - the very common X164 75K air strut failure from the X164 - so far has not appeared on the X166 - all to the good !
Also - I take heart from the posts of AO's (actual owner's) rather than "forum reporter's".
Yes - our forum's here get more-than-fair-share problem reporting - which is all to the good as long as forum member's understand that.
The "reason" Mercedes has withdrawn diesel from North American passenger vehicles gets damn Federal/political - the Fed's - still reeling from the VW fiasco - which was NEVER "caught" by Federal authorities a dang BIG embarrassment - in Federal zeal to pin-the-tail-on-the-German-Sheppard - in essence has accused ALL German auto manufacturers of "criminal collusion" and masterminding the whole diesel fiasco.with Bosch - and the Fed's even went so far as to persuade German authorities to open full German Federal investigations as well.
In Germany - MB guaranteed absolute 1000% full disclosure - and under German Federal "whistle blower" protection in return gets MB German immunity even in the event something exists (which it doesn't) - MB offered US Federal government same proposal as MB gets in Germany - which would save the US $10's of millions in investigative costs (again, remember there is still nothing there to find) and the Fed's turn that offer down self-righteously thinking that there is something there (that isn't).
I'd pull diesel's from North America too !
Oh - on DEF - which is mandated here in the US for ALL diesel applications over 60hp - we stiill have "old school MB diesel hounds" that still blame Mercedes for that one - incredibly stupid - and "bio diesel" another stupendous state mandated in some areas - how to take "clean diesel" and make it dirty - ... damn shame, damn shame..
In large part from what I read here - or didn't read reported - the very common X164 75K air strut failure from the X164 - so far has not appeared on the X166 - all to the good !
Also - I take heart from the posts of AO's (actual owner's) rather than "forum reporter's".
Yes - our forum's here get more-than-fair-share problem reporting - which is all to the good as long as forum member's understand that.
The "reason" Mercedes has withdrawn diesel from North American passenger vehicles gets damn Federal/political - the Fed's - still reeling from the VW fiasco - which was NEVER "caught" by Federal authorities a dang BIG embarrassment - in Federal zeal to pin-the-tail-on-the-German-Sheppard - in essence has accused ALL German auto manufacturers of "criminal collusion" and masterminding the whole diesel fiasco.with Bosch - and the Fed's even went so far as to persuade German authorities to open full German Federal investigations as well.
In Germany - MB guaranteed absolute 1000% full disclosure - and under German Federal "whistle blower" protection in return gets MB German immunity even in the event something exists (which it doesn't) - MB offered US Federal government same proposal as MB gets in Germany - which would save the US $10's of millions in investigative costs (again, remember there is still nothing there to find) and the Fed's turn that offer down self-righteously thinking that there is something there (that isn't).
I'd pull diesel's from North America too !
Oh - on DEF - which is mandated here in the US for ALL diesel applications over 60hp - we stiill have "old school MB diesel hounds" that still blame Mercedes for that one - incredibly stupid - and "bio diesel" another stupendous state mandated in some areas - how to take "clean diesel" and make it dirty - ... damn shame, damn shame..
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Both the X166 and X165 have wierd system-off noises - like whirring noises - not associated with X164/W164 Airmatic systems - I am in the same boat - have no idea what the whirring is - just that consider it normal
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion - and frankly comparing 1st gen X164 with 2nd Gen X166 - whether gas or diesel - is inherently flawed. There are few-to-none "inherited" problems from X164 to X166 - which is all that it should be in next/new gen.
In large part from what I read here - or didn't read reported - the very common X164 75K air strut failure from the X164 - so far has not appeared on the X166 - all to the good !
Also - I take heart from the posts of AO's (actual owner's) rather than "forum reporter's".
Yes - our forum's here get more-than-fair-share problem reporting - which is all to the good as long as forum member's understand that.
The "reason" Mercedes has withdrawn diesel from North American passenger vehicles gets damn Federal/political - the Fed's - still reeling from the VW fiasco - which was NEVER "caught" by Federal authorities a dang BIG embarrassment - in Federal zeal to pin-the-tail-on-the-German-Sheppard - in essence has accused ALL German auto manufacturers of "criminal collusion" and masterminding the whole diesel fiasco.with Bosch - and the Fed's even went so far as to persuade German authorities to open full German Federal investigations as well.
In Germany - MB guaranteed absolute 1000% full disclosure - and under German Federal "whistle blower" protection in return gets MB German immunity even in the event something exists (which it doesn't) - MB offered US Federal government same proposal as MB gets in Germany - which would save the US $10's of millions in investigative costs (again, remember there is still nothing there to find) and the Fed's turn that offer down self-righteously thinking that there is something there (that isn't).
I'd pull diesel's from North America too !
Oh - on DEF - which is mandated here in the US for ALL diesel applications over 60hp - we stiill have "old school MB diesel hounds" that still blame Mercedes for that one - incredibly stupid - and "bio diesel" another stupendous state mandated in some areas - how to take "clean diesel" and make it dirty - ... damn shame, damn shame..
In large part from what I read here - or didn't read reported - the very common X164 75K air strut failure from the X164 - so far has not appeared on the X166 - all to the good !
Also - I take heart from the posts of AO's (actual owner's) rather than "forum reporter's".
Yes - our forum's here get more-than-fair-share problem reporting - which is all to the good as long as forum member's understand that.
The "reason" Mercedes has withdrawn diesel from North American passenger vehicles gets damn Federal/political - the Fed's - still reeling from the VW fiasco - which was NEVER "caught" by Federal authorities a dang BIG embarrassment - in Federal zeal to pin-the-tail-on-the-German-Sheppard - in essence has accused ALL German auto manufacturers of "criminal collusion" and masterminding the whole diesel fiasco.with Bosch - and the Fed's even went so far as to persuade German authorities to open full German Federal investigations as well.
In Germany - MB guaranteed absolute 1000% full disclosure - and under German Federal "whistle blower" protection in return gets MB German immunity even in the event something exists (which it doesn't) - MB offered US Federal government same proposal as MB gets in Germany - which would save the US $10's of millions in investigative costs (again, remember there is still nothing there to find) and the Fed's turn that offer down self-righteously thinking that there is something there (that isn't).
I'd pull diesel's from North America too !
Oh - on DEF - which is mandated here in the US for ALL diesel applications over 60hp - we stiill have "old school MB diesel hounds" that still blame Mercedes for that one - incredibly stupid - and "bio diesel" another stupendous state mandated in some areas - how to take "clean diesel" and make it dirty - ... damn shame, damn shame..
Not many months ago, a prosecutor in Stuttgart, Germany, launched an investigation alleging fraud and misleading advertising against Daimler. The U.S. DOJ, EPA, and California Air Resources Board on Mercedes-Benz diesel vehicles is also investigating. I hope they do not find anything. But, if I recall correctly, VW denied the allegations against them for quite a while so it is easy to understand why the German and US prosecutors don't trust the manufacturers. We are talking about $ billions at stake here.
