Germancar1

What is wrong? Provide proof as to what is wrong because otherwise I'm going to with the fact that you don't know what you're talking about. If you think that Mercedes won't be building any GLCs in 2017 themselves, you're the one that is just flat wrong here.


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fabbrisd1

gcar is 1000% correct..

TSchuettinger

WHAT?! NOOOOOOO!!

mindi

LOL

sblvro

If you order the GLC by EDP does it guarantee that it will be German made since you're actually picking up the vehicle in Germany not Finland?

mindi

Seriously... my point is just that Valmet Auto in Finland are building a huge facility to build outsourced GLCs alongside the A class they already build. I have no certain knowledge that they will stop building them in Bremen but they have announced that the migration to Valmet will start in early 2017. How quickly that happens will depend on sales, demand and the delivery of the facility on time but it has been announced as "from early 2017". From a business perspective it sounds very very unlikely to me that they will ultimately build GLC in two quite proximate locations. I suggest the Valmet facility will be sized to produce the projected GLC demand out into the future. It just makes business sense. Any optimised business model is likely to have a minimum number of locations building any given model.
My comments above about BMW E83 are not opinion but simply history. The current model BMW X3 (F25) was designed in the BMW California Design Studio, by an American and is built in South Carolina (including my RHD example). So outsourcing of complete models is the way of the global model world.

TSchuettinger

I don't think whether or not you choose european delivery determines where the car is built. If it's not built in Germany, it's not going to qualify. Just like if you were to get a Kecskemét, Hungary built CLA or GLA.

sblvro

The point made earlier was "some" GLC will be assembled in Finland while the rest stays in Bremen. That's what I meant.

TSchuettinger

Whew thank god.

CA_GLC

Lots of outsourcing these days. Glad at least it's not a 3rd World sweatshop like what other companies frequently do.

TSchuettinger

They should of outsourced it to Magna Steyr.

mindi

Yes you wonder why not given their long Jeep and BMW history. Maybe there was a Germany/Austria thing going on...? who knows.

TSchuettinger

I think Magna Steyr also built the 95-02 E class 4matic as well.

Germancar1

You are just confused and wrong man. Think for a second. The GLC is in hot demand, so why on earth would they contract out assembly and then stop building it in their home plant? Doesn't make any sense. If you google the articles on this, they clearly say that MB will use Valmet for "supplemental" output of the GLC, not a "migration" as you put it. The GLC will be built in BOTH locations. It doesn't make any sense to have an outside contractor build ALL of the production for one of your hottest models, nor does it make sense to have ONE factory supplying the entire world. Sorry man you have no clue about what you're talking about, none. Google the articles man. You're confusing people with all this silly misinformation.

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clarst

The bold text highlighted above illustrates that you are expressing your opinion--not speaking from fact. What sounds unlikely to you, what you suggest, what makes sense to you, what you think is likely...have no bearing on reality. You have every right to your opinion, but please don't try to pass it off as fact.

r3dbenz89

Germancar1 is correct. Mercedes is outsourcing additional capacity to Valmet due to increased demand that the Bremen plant cannot fulfill due to the C Class line handling the C Convertible and GLC Coupe. I believe the C Class line builds the GLC, GLC Coupe, C Class Sedan, Wagon, coupe, and convertible on one line. This is quite common in the automotive world as it is cheaper to outsource additional capacity to plants like Valmet or Magna Steyr versus building an entire new plant in the short-run. BMW will be doing this with the new G30 5 series. Dingolfing will handle the majority of 5 series production with overflow being handled by Magna Steyr in Austria.

The question is which markets will get which allocations from which plant. The North American market will probably mirror the W204 with some coming from both plants as we received South African, Sindelfingen, and Bremen made W204s.

http://automotivelogistics.media/new...-5-series-graz

wugang101

Hello everyone,

Is it possible to order a GLC 300 assembled in Bremen, Germany and not made in Finland.

What is the quality different between these two assembled plants? Has Anyone know about this?

Thanks

Gee Spoolin

Do you guys feel that a Mercedes made outside of Germany by an outsource company are inferior and not genuine? FYI, the GLC's are made in India as well.

Graham Bell

Mine was built in Finland and I see not difference. Having said that I've not done a comparison with a German built one. The quality of my car is what I'd expect of a Mercedes.
AFAIK mine went from Finland to Germany, so I assume quality control is done there. However, mine did have some mysterious 4 week delay between it arriving in Germany from Finland and being shipped to me. No one is prepared to tell me why though, so I can only assume there was quality issues? Still, as long as quality issues are being found and fixed before it reaches me, all is good so far.
Graham

mike7ee

It's not uncommon for Mercedes or any of the luxury German brands to contract production.

Mercedes will start producing top end AMG models for the C Class, C63 and C63 S, in South Africa.
Mercedes G Class is also contracted out to Magna Steyr, which also makes BMWs.
The Valmet plant in Finland before the Mercedes contract, produced cars for Porsche.

Never heard of a Mercedes being made in India, is that the 180 hp model made specifically for Asia? I'd probably pass on that.

ajmtbm

i have a Finnish 4matic 2017 model year. i've had a couple issues with interior trim (a rattle and accessory door went off track) cant imagine they would be related to assembly plant. Or at least they could have happened at either plant i assume

i would assume quality would be on par with Bremen quality as im sure getting the facility up and running to assemble followed a very thorough process

out of curiosity, anyone know where the engine and tranny are built and i assume that has not changed?

dieseldoc

Engine and transmission are made in Germany.

hifivoice

The transmission is made by Star Assembly in Romania:
http://media.daimler.com/marsMediaSi...ml?oid=9986760

guido3

dieseldoc

My window sticker on my GLC states engine and transmission made in Germany. Thanks for the new info.