GLC arrives after 4 months with wrong configuration
#26
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Well... a order unit gives the customer the EXACT specs the customer wants - and correctly processed is a Win/Win for the customer - the dealership - and Mercedes.
please understand that Confirmation is a copy of the actual factory PO - which lists the specs being built - and will also show estimated Production Date - THAT is the document for CONFIRMATION with the customer.
What was posted was just a salesman's Netstar configuration outline of the specs that the customer says they want to order - it is NOT confirmation.
The correct procedure - salesman submit's spec outline to the order person at the dealership - the PO gets entered or existing PO is revised - factory issues confirmation on that PO back to the dealer - salesman pulls up Netstar copy of the confirmed factory
PO - salesman emails or presents copy of FACTORY PO to customer for customer sign-off/customer confirmation.
Yes - this was dealer error - and the dealer error was POOR and INCOMPLETE communication with the customer - NO CUSTOMER CONFIRMATION - dealer and ealer-salesperson was d*mn sloppy - and what should have been straightforward is now fracked up.
If you do not have copy of FACTORY PO on your ordered Mercedes - then you DO NOT HAVE CONFIRMATION - and your rig will either exactly what you think it should be - or your ordered rig could be something different..
please understand that Confirmation is a copy of the actual factory PO - which lists the specs being built - and will also show estimated Production Date - THAT is the document for CONFIRMATION with the customer.
What was posted was just a salesman's Netstar configuration outline of the specs that the customer says they want to order - it is NOT confirmation.
The correct procedure - salesman submit's spec outline to the order person at the dealership - the PO gets entered or existing PO is revised - factory issues confirmation on that PO back to the dealer - salesman pulls up Netstar copy of the confirmed factory
PO - salesman emails or presents copy of FACTORY PO to customer for customer sign-off/customer confirmation.
Yes - this was dealer error - and the dealer error was POOR and INCOMPLETE communication with the customer - NO CUSTOMER CONFIRMATION - dealer and ealer-salesperson was d*mn sloppy - and what should have been straightforward is now fracked up.
If you do not have copy of FACTORY PO on your ordered Mercedes - then you DO NOT HAVE CONFIRMATION - and your rig will either exactly what you think it should be - or your ordered rig could be something different..
#27
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+1, you were robbed and the best the dealer could do was put you onto another order that was close and hope you would bend over. Best wishes with the outcome.
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Well... a order unit gives the customer the EXACT specs the customer wants - and correctly processed is a Win/Win for the customer - the dealership - and Mercedes.
please understand that Confirmation is a copy of the actual factory PO - which lists the specs being built - and will also show estimated Production Date - THAT is the document for CONFIRMATION with the customer.
What was posted was just a salesman's Netstar configuration outline of the specs that the customer says they want to order - it is NOT confirmation.
The correct procedure - salesman submit's spec outline to the order person at the dealership - the PO gets entered or existing PO is revised - factory issues confirmation on that PO back to the dealer - salesman pulls up Netstar copy of the confirmed factory
PO - salesman emails or presents copy of FACTORY PO to customer for customer sign-off/customer confirmation.
Yes - this was dealer error - and the dealer error was POOR and INCOMPLETE communication with the customer - NO CUSTOMER CONFIRMATION - dealer and ealer-salesperson was d*mn sloppy - and what should have been straightforward is now fracked up.
If you do not have copy of FACTORY PO on your ordered Mercedes - then you DO NOT HAVE CONFIRMATION - and your rig will either exactly what you think it should be - or your ordered rig could be something different..
please understand that Confirmation is a copy of the actual factory PO - which lists the specs being built - and will also show estimated Production Date - THAT is the document for CONFIRMATION with the customer.
What was posted was just a salesman's Netstar configuration outline of the specs that the customer says they want to order - it is NOT confirmation.
The correct procedure - salesman submit's spec outline to the order person at the dealership - the PO gets entered or existing PO is revised - factory issues confirmation on that PO back to the dealer - salesman pulls up Netstar copy of the confirmed factory
PO - salesman emails or presents copy of FACTORY PO to customer for customer sign-off/customer confirmation.
Yes - this was dealer error - and the dealer error was POOR and INCOMPLETE communication with the customer - NO CUSTOMER CONFIRMATION - dealer and ealer-salesperson was d*mn sloppy - and what should have been straightforward is now fracked up.
If you do not have copy of FACTORY PO on your ordered Mercedes - then you DO NOT HAVE CONFIRMATION - and your rig will either exactly what you think it should be - or your ordered rig could be something different..
We went to "look at" the car today (it had just arrived). Still in travel mode, with cardboard and packing inside; not yet driveable. The SA was (to me) strangely unapologetic--in his last email, he said "If you don't like the way it looks, you are not obligated to take delivery of the car. I deeply apologize for the inconvenience."
Inconvenience!?!?!? After waiting four months to take delivery of a special order, and it is the wrong build? Inconvenience?
We expressed our disappointment and asked if he could walk us through what happened--did the factory not communicate about the change? Was the first they heard of it when the vehicle hit the port in Long Beach?
He said, no communication. He said the VIN and PO had not changed and he had been following production. I said, so you followed production, but didn't keep track of whether the build changed? He semi-admitted responsibility by seeming to admit to this. I suspect they would almost prefer that we walk, because they would probably make $3-4K more than they will get from us for the car.
I said, so our options are: accept the car the way it is, reject it, or order a new one? He agreed, seemingly surprised by the last one. I said, what about getting 19" wheels swapped out for the 18" on the car? He said that was not possible. Wheels can be downsized, but not upsized, he said.
We're in a bind, because if we opt to not take the car, we have to wait another 3-4 months. If we walk, we may not get the same deal elsewhere--it seems the popularity of the car is decreasing the decent deals on special orders. We don't have much leverage (other than Yelp) since they don't seem to be too concerned about fixing this.
So, we're inclined to accept the car, even though it isn't what we ordered or what we want. Very frustrating and maddening. If they could find some 19" wheels, that would help mitigate this, but seems they won't even do this? That seems like a minor thing to try and make this right for us.
Many thanks to all who have posted here--I appreciate your perspective and sympathy. No easy solutions, but such is life.
#30
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This really stinks. I personally would spend a couple of hours calling around to a few dealers this morning. See what you can get, in terms of both a vehicle to or at least close to your specs and pricing. If a rep at a different dealer can make a quick deal you might be surprised on how well you can do.
The good news is that you have a ton of options in your area. Where I live, dealers are separated by 60+ miles.
The good news is that you have a ton of options in your area. Where I live, dealers are separated by 60+ miles.
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That's a raw deal, man. Did they even offer to try to find one closer to what you ordered? I realize you are unlikely to get the exact configuration, but maybe you can sacrifice a less important option or two to get the Night Package? Oh, and the wheel thing sounds like BS. Dealerships upsize wheels all the time, but they typically make a lot of profit doing it. Helping you will cost them money, so in this case they choose not to.
I assume MB does at least one post-transaction survey? If so, at least you'll have an opportunity to report your experience to MB USA.
I assume MB does at least one post-transaction survey? If so, at least you'll have an opportunity to report your experience to MB USA.
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#32
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That is a bummer. Consider pointing out that if they don't do something to compensate for the issue, you'll be sure to bring the issue up repeatedly on various social media platforms in order to alert future customers of the dangers of doing business with that particular dealership and SA. It may or may not lead to anything, but nobody wants to get an easily searchable and honest bad review.
#33
That is a bummer. Consider pointing out that if they don't do something to compensate for the issue, you'll be sure to bring the issue up repeatedly on various social media platforms in order to alert future customers of the dangers of doing business with that particular dealership and SA. It may or may not lead to anything, but nobody wants to get an easily searchable and honest bad review.
#34
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The "heat is on" at the dealership to close a strong November - and quality face time will be very thin based on the other business on the plate - I say this from a factual point of view.
My best personal advice - drive the car - then decide immediately on completion of that drive on how you feel about the car on the road.
It was sloppy order handling by the salesman/dealer - has nothing to do with you - and nothing to do with Mercedes for that matter either.
SIGNED FACTORY PO is order confirmation - anything else ain't..
There are no "threats" here - this isn't Catholic Grammar School.
Good luck !
My best personal advice - drive the car - then decide immediately on completion of that drive on how you feel about the car on the road.
It was sloppy order handling by the salesman/dealer - has nothing to do with you - and nothing to do with Mercedes for that matter either.
SIGNED FACTORY PO is order confirmation - anything else ain't..
There are no "threats" here - this isn't Catholic Grammar School.
Good luck !
#35
The "heat is on" at the dealership to close a strong November - and quality face time will be very thin based on the other business on the plate - I say this from a factual point of view.
My best personal advice - drive the car - then decide immediately on completion of that drive on how you feel about the car on the road.
It was sloppy order handling by the salesman/dealer - has nothing to do with you - and nothing to do with Mercedes for that matter either.
SIGNED FACTORY PO is order confirmation - anything else ain't..
There are no "threats" here - this isn't Catholic Grammar School.
Good luck !
My best personal advice - drive the car - then decide immediately on completion of that drive on how you feel about the car on the road.
It was sloppy order handling by the salesman/dealer - has nothing to do with you - and nothing to do with Mercedes for that matter either.
SIGNED FACTORY PO is order confirmation - anything else ain't..
There are no "threats" here - this isn't Catholic Grammar School.
Good luck !
To that point, I've told them we're coming in tomorrow to drive it. I have feelers out for other options, but will be prepared to make a decision.
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The "heat is on" at the dealership to close a strong November - and quality face time will be very thin based on the other business on the plate - I say this from a factual point of view.
My best personal advice - drive the car - then decide immediately on completion of that drive on how you feel about the car on the road.
It was sloppy order handling by the salesman/dealer - has nothing to do with you - and nothing to do with Mercedes for that matter either.
SIGNED FACTORY PO is order confirmation - anything else ain't..
There are no "threats" here - this isn't Catholic Grammar School.
Good luck !
My best personal advice - drive the car - then decide immediately on completion of that drive on how you feel about the car on the road.
It was sloppy order handling by the salesman/dealer - has nothing to do with you - and nothing to do with Mercedes for that matter either.
SIGNED FACTORY PO is order confirmation - anything else ain't..
There are no "threats" here - this isn't Catholic Grammar School.
Good luck !
That's a little cryptic, but I think what I'm hearing is, if we don't decide we want the car pretty quickly, there's a danger they'll sell it out from under us. Right?
To that point, I've told them we're coming in tomorrow to drive it. I have feelers out for other options, but will be prepared to make a decision.
To that point, I've told them we're coming in tomorrow to drive it. I have feelers out for other options, but will be prepared to make a decision.
Just something else to consider.
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I assume they'll take the cost of those options of the final bill ? Or do they want their cake and to eat it. - I.e make more profit on the deal. In Europe, the night pack is expensive (IMHO considering you don't get anything extra, just differently painted stuff)
Richard
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#39
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We ordered our GLC on July 25 and have been waiting (somewhat) patiently now for four months. It was at the port in Germany on 10/1, left on 10/17, and finally arrived at Long Beach on 11/20.
We have been in touch with our SA and he said it cleared Customs and was on its way to the dealership today.
We were beyond disappointed to find out the our loaded GLC was not built with the Sport Package and Night Package we had ordered--and it has little 18" wheels. It has everything else (P03 package, Burmester, HUD, Panorama Roof), but not having the appearance packages is really a bummer.
Has anyone else heard of such a thing? Should the dealer have known this before the car showed up? I can't imagine that info was not available earlier in the process and suspect that they just didn't examine/confirm the build until now. (I do think it was ordered correctly, but messed up on the factory side due perhaps to parts shortage.)
It is infuriating to wait four months to get a vehicle the way we wanted it, only to find out when it arrives that it is not what we ordered.
We could order it again, or try to at least get them to find 19" tires/wheels to put on it. I'm not sure if I can bear the thought of waiting another 3-4 months, but living with a car for perhaps 10 years that isn't what we wanted is unpalatable as well.
Aargghh.![Rant](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/rant2.gif)
We have been in touch with our SA and he said it cleared Customs and was on its way to the dealership today.
We were beyond disappointed to find out the our loaded GLC was not built with the Sport Package and Night Package we had ordered--and it has little 18" wheels. It has everything else (P03 package, Burmester, HUD, Panorama Roof), but not having the appearance packages is really a bummer.
Has anyone else heard of such a thing? Should the dealer have known this before the car showed up? I can't imagine that info was not available earlier in the process and suspect that they just didn't examine/confirm the build until now. (I do think it was ordered correctly, but messed up on the factory side due perhaps to parts shortage.)
It is infuriating to wait four months to get a vehicle the way we wanted it, only to find out when it arrives that it is not what we ordered.
We could order it again, or try to at least get them to find 19" tires/wheels to put on it. I'm not sure if I can bear the thought of waiting another 3-4 months, but living with a car for perhaps 10 years that isn't what we wanted is unpalatable as well.
Aargghh.
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#40
Update: After much pondering and debate, we decided to accept the vehicle. Supply is constrained somewhat, deals are currently not quite as good, and we would have had to order another GLC (none in stock configured like we wanted). Life is a series of tradeoffs, and even though the car doesn't have the appearance packages, it is still a great-looking car. The future is uncertain and there were no guarantees the next order wouldn't be delayed, something might be unavailable (HUD again?), etc. The proverbial bird in the hand...
The dealer is helping facilitate a trade-in of the 18" stock wheels/tires to aftermarket 19" versions, which will customize the vehicle and look great, so that was also a factor for us.
I appreciate everyone's input and perspective. Hopefully this thread will serve as a learning experience for others, since there is no published procedure for customers to know what their SA should do. I did not know that I should have demanded a signed Factory PO, as I (mistakenly) thought my 10-year Master Certified SA would be taking the right steps to follow through.
We picked up the car last night and will have the new wheels/tires early next week. Looking forward to many years of happy ownership and hope to participate in some good give and take here on the forum.
The dealer is helping facilitate a trade-in of the 18" stock wheels/tires to aftermarket 19" versions, which will customize the vehicle and look great, so that was also a factor for us.
I appreciate everyone's input and perspective. Hopefully this thread will serve as a learning experience for others, since there is no published procedure for customers to know what their SA should do. I did not know that I should have demanded a signed Factory PO, as I (mistakenly) thought my 10-year Master Certified SA would be taking the right steps to follow through.
We picked up the car last night and will have the new wheels/tires early next week. Looking forward to many years of happy ownership and hope to participate in some good give and take here on the forum.
#41
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Update: After much pondering and debate, we decided to accept the vehicle. Supply is constrained somewhat, deals are currently not quite as good, and we would have had to order another GLC (none in stock configured like we wanted). Life is a series of tradeoffs, and even though the car doesn't have the appearance packages, it is still a great-looking car. The future is uncertain and there were no guarantees the next order wouldn't be delayed, something might be unavailable (HUD again?), etc. The proverbial bird in the hand...
The dealer is helping facilitate a trade-in of the 18" stock wheels/tires to aftermarket 19" versions, which will customize the vehicle and look great, so that was also a factor for us.
I appreciate everyone's input and perspective. Hopefully this thread will serve as a learning experience for others, since there is no published procedure for customers to know what their SA should do. I did not know that I should have demanded a signed Factory PO, as I (mistakenly) thought my 10-year Master Certified SA would be taking the right steps to follow through.
We picked up the car last night and will have the new wheels/tires early next week. Looking forward to many years of happy ownership and hope to participate in some good give and take here on the forum.
The dealer is helping facilitate a trade-in of the 18" stock wheels/tires to aftermarket 19" versions, which will customize the vehicle and look great, so that was also a factor for us.
I appreciate everyone's input and perspective. Hopefully this thread will serve as a learning experience for others, since there is no published procedure for customers to know what their SA should do. I did not know that I should have demanded a signed Factory PO, as I (mistakenly) thought my 10-year Master Certified SA would be taking the right steps to follow through.
We picked up the car last night and will have the new wheels/tires early next week. Looking forward to many years of happy ownership and hope to participate in some good give and take here on the forum.
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#45
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Does anybody know how often ships depart for transport to Long Beach? Got my car built day before thanksgiving and I got VIN and last I heard car was waiting to be assigned a ship. Sales man out on vacation so trying to get an idea how often they depart from port. Tried WWL but no tracking found.
#46
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Not all cars go out on WWL. Your SÃ or dealer should be able to tell you which shipping line your vehicle is assigned to one it reaches Bremerhaven. Ships leave multiple times for East coast then they canal to west coast. My GLC was built end of January and I had in Dallas end of February. You can expect yours to take 6 to 8 weeks to end up in California.
#47
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Not all cars go out on WWL. Your SÃ or dealer should be able to tell you which shipping line your vehicle is assigned to one it reaches Bremerhaven. Ships leave multiple times for East coast then they canal to west coast. My GLC was built end of January and I had in Dallas end of February. You can expect yours to take 6 to 8 weeks to end up in California.
#48
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Not all cars go out on WWL. Your SÃ or dealer should be able to tell you which shipping line your vehicle is assigned to one it reaches Bremerhaven. Ships leave multiple times for East coast then they canal to west coast. My GLC was built end of January and I had in Dallas end of February. You can expect yours to take 6 to 8 weeks to end up in California.
#49
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Originally Posted by pkattack
Any idea how long it takes the cars to clear customs once in the US at Long Beach? I'm trying to schedule my TDI buyback around the same time the GLC shows up at the dealer.