Oh dear, sorry to hear that

Yes, and I need to get my head checked for considering Alfa-Romeo and Maserati

 

Doesn't matter what make you get their is always the possibility of issues, I remember many years ago when the registrations changed on August 1st travelling up M1 on 1st day of new plates and seeing a brand new Rolls Royce on hard shoulder with bonnet up.
To be fair all the issues I have had with the Discovery sport have been minor and leather apart have been dealt with well, reason I am not buying again is that there are a lot of owners with more serious issues and I didn't want to take a chance. I know it sounds stupid when I am chancing a 43 but lifes full of chances, will know shortly whether it is a stupid decision or not.

 

Isn't the F-pace closer to size with the GLE than the GLC so that you guys compare those two models?

 

They both suffer from tyre skip when cold due to the Ackerman Effect (google it if you want) but it seems as if the Jaguar is less severe because our owners haven't taken out a class action like the MB folk! Of course, winter tyres solve this in cold weather.

I have not experienced any tire skip with my glc43. Be advised that any vehicle running summer tires in cold weather is going to be susceptible to tire skip as well as other undesirable behaviors. The vast majority of the time this has nothing to do with the vehicle itself.

 

Always surprised me as well, I guess it is down to price. The F-Pace is much more like an GLE/ML but priced like a GLC.

 

Big difference between LHD and RHD This is nothing like the little usual occasional skip at all. But for the sake of the comparison lets not derail this thread, but feel free to join the one that is dedicated to it.

 

We went with the GLC43 because it was the best bang for the buck, and just the right size. We looked at the F Pace S first, then the Maserati Levante before settling for the GLC. Jaguar didn't even offer a test drive, and Maserati would not negotiate on the price due to supply and demand.

 

You could say the FP is a better value because it offers GLE size and capabilities for the price of a GLC.

 

Absolutely, although some design decisions have been made to accomplish that. Ultimately it all depends on what you want. We wanted a short and smaller vehicle than our GL class. So the size isn't a benefit, but we'd still want the luxury of the GL class.

 

Does MB have parking assist that can back into a parking space? I know Audi does. If I ever choose GLC over FP it would be for the tech.

 

It better. My GLC300 RWD with P3, heads up & Parking Assist is on order and will be delivered shortly. Believe there are you-tube videos showing it in action.
I went with MB over the F-Pace because fit/finish & MB dealer is 4 miles away vs 25 miles.

 

My GLC 250d has it........used it once or twice and will probably never use it again! !

 

LOL All my cars over the last 6 year have had that. I think I've used it about 3 times to demonstrate: 'look no hands'. But it is just to slow at parking compared to me doing it myself.

 

Never used it on my Discovery sport and won't use it on the Merc.

 

Seriously? I mean pulling into a space in a parking lot, not parallel parking.

 

Wouldn't you have it parked in the time it took to set the system?

 

Started by looking at the F-Pace and was very interested. They were offering essentially sticker price. I told them to go fly a kite and ordered a fully loaded GLC43 - P3. Their loss. Building in 1st 3rd of next month.

 

Not when I need to back into a space sometimes.

 

Hell no. FP is from Jag which is known for(yeah definitely experience from people I know) unreliable vehicles especially the electronics part, even with the current parent company. That and the dealership here in South Bay (SF Bay) has a crap SA who had the audacity to say something along the line of "Why are we here if you're not buying the car now?"

Oh, and even without such crap dealership experience, the pathetically low rear headroom killed the notion of buying one for me, and I'm not even that tall.

The same cramp-ness as the Macan, but with crappier reliability. Ha..no.

 

Whats the relevance of the SA being asian? If dealing with an asian bothered you so much, go to another dealership. If the fact that the SA was asian does not make a difference, then there's no point in mentioning it. Do you normally mention the race of people you deal with?

 

The F pace comes with a 5 year/60,000 mile full warranty and all regular maintenance included in the purchase price for those 5 years. For anyone leasing or trading in after 4-5 years, reliability isn't as much of an issue. Add up the cost of an extra year of warranty and prepaid maintenance for 5 years on the Benz, and you're looking at an additional $5k added to price.

 

Even if it's covered with warranty I'm still stuck with a loaner(if they give me one) every time it needs to be in the shop. The time that'll be wasted is just not worth the 5k saved over 5 years.

 

I mentioned that as a matter of fact. And I'm also Asian so no I'm not being racist. I mentioned his race because he's the only Asian there IIRC and the only way to avoid mentioning names because obvious reasons.

 

Exactly the reason I am coming away from JLR, I don't expect to pay the money I did for a Discovery sport and have to keep returning to the dealers for faults to be rectified.

 

So, a few of you here will know what I'm going to say. I had an AMG43 on order, but got concerned about the extreme tyre crabbing issue, and then highly irritated by MB's handling of this issue
So I went and test drove a 3 litre petrol F-pace. Yes, the inside isn't quite as nice(but still excellent), and of course, one still has some concerns about quality, although it's clear from the forums that a lot of this has been fixed now that it's nearly a year old. However, I did cancel my GLC order, and ordered the Jag instead because, whilst the two are similarly powerful, the handling on that Jag is different class - it is seriously seriously good and put a huge smile on my face (as did the noise of the engine under heavy acceleration. I test drove the Macan as well, and frankly, I preferred the Jag. Coming from a BMW M4, it was clear that the Jag would still keep me happy . I might add that it was a cold day, and the car was on 22" wheels, and try as I might, I couldn't get it to crab or judder!
Also, let's face it, it's the sweetest looking SUV out there - an absolute babe! And actually, thinking about the inside, I actually prefer the integral screen rather than the 'perched' ipad look-alike in the GLC, and I can tell you that the upgraded hi-fi is better than the Burmeister branded (but with no Burmeister manufactured equipment) GLC version.


So, sorry to provide this feedback on an MB forum (which is what I had planned to buy of course, and why I'm a poster here) but these are my honest thoughts having gone through a process of evaluating the two cars. Phil above came to a different view I know, and that's fine, but I'm very happy with where I got to(and thanks to JP Dejongj for his help as well!!)