gnawmean

That's awesome, thanks for verifying.

Also, I did notice that the heated front seats are now an option, as opposed to standard within P01. Fine by me. I didn't care for it or the heated steering wheel so now I don't have to pay for it

mtberman

This was my perception based on back-to-back drives with my Subaru Forester XT. The GLC rode much better but didn't feel quite as zippy. It was a bit more reluctant to change directions, too. The GLC is about 400 lbs heavier, notably wider, and has a much longer wheelbase. That all explains the less-nimble but smoother-riding feeling. Also, there's probably some AWD friction in the MB vs. the Subie.

mtberman

Not sure where you're getting this info. Heated seats have never been included with P01. Having said that, it's true that you must order and pay extra for the heated seats (or heated+ventilated seats) if you order P01. It's complicated. The DOG is your friend!

kauboy

Looking forward to being a member of this community. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area and intend to order a GLC 43 this month. Have not chosen or committed to a salesperson or dealer. A couple of questions please. Are the 2018 43's allocated? Will dealers sell at less than list? Thank you.

mleun481

Don't know about price, but a few members have placed their orders for the MY18 already.

Wassaby

MY18 GLC43 will start production end of June.

rihallix

If by list you mean MSRP - most dealers will give you $1-$2k below MSRP, some more.

Since you're in the Bay Area like me - I ordered a custom to order in December and took delivery of my GLC43 in March - I recommend the best prices are just outside the main cities.

I found James Reemts (who supplied the 2018 Dealer Ordering Guide that I posted to start this thread) gave me a fantastic deal on a GLC43 - he's based in Rocklin, just NE of Sacramento , his service was amazing:

Internet Manager
Mercedes Benz of Rocklin
4747 Granite Dr. Rocklin, Ca 95677
jreemts@mbofrocklin.com
www.mbofrocklin.com
www.vonhousen.com
916-275-3362 Office
530-713-6380 Cell

He gave me a great deal on a custom to order. He would have traded to get a GLC43 to my spec from out of state (extra ~$500 delivery charge) to avoid the ~3 month manufacturing wait to get a new car from Bremen, but the car we selected was sold the day before I showed up to put down the $$$s.

gnawmean

fyi I've had 2 dealerships in the DC area offer me 3500 below MSRP on my 18 order. still not sure who I'm going with. Lowest price, I'm sure!

Blairscsa

Getting ready to plan a trip to pick up a new Benz and there does not appear to be an option for the Black Forest Tour/Trip anymore on the web site. Anyone know what happened to it? Is it still offered? My dealer does not have a clue.

Thlian

Take ED and just go there.

George in KG

You don't have to do the trips through MB. You'll save significant $ if you plan the trip yourself. Get a map and make some hotel reservations. That's about it.

Andrea Un

Hi! Are parking sensors (beeps when you get too close) included as standard feature or do you have to get the advanced parking assist package to get sensors?

dieseldoc

No sensors unless order park assist

hapi2009

Does the GLC43 have the AMG engine signature tag with the mechanic/engineer's name? Where is it located?

MB300AMG

Nope. Those tags are only put on hand-built engines found in the 63 models. The 43 models get an AMG-modified 3.0TTV6 that originally began to be offered in the C400, so those models aren't hand-built and therefore don't get the tag. Instead, you have a red strip in the middle where the tag would normally go.

hapi2009

Interesting, thanks! Are the 43 models built in Affalterbach?

Thlian

European builds are made in Finland

MB300AMG

From what I understand, no. The 43 models are in the main factories but I think the engines might go to Affalterbach to get tuned before they get put in.

/////Tbro

+1. My 43 order is being built in Germany, not Finland. I'll have to double check which factory but not Affalterbach (perhaps Bremen?). AMG tunes the 43 bi-turbos but are not hand built like the 63s in Affalterbach. No one man one engine philosophy on the V6.

MB300AMG

To be honest, the whole one man one engine thing isn't really important in my opinion. As much as I love AMG engines and would love to have one, whether it's built by an individual or by a few and a bunch of machines is immaterial to the ownership experience except for ego stroking.

If you REALLY think about it, AMG sells tens of thousands of their 63 vehicles per year and their workforce doesn't equal enough employees to actually build each engine meticulously by hand. More realistically, it's more likely that one guy (or more than one guy) oversees the production processes of the machine assembly, and might add a couple things by hand - which isn't the same thing as an individual handbuilt engine anyway.

So really, the entire stuck-up "it's not a real AMG because it's not 'one man, one engine'" spiel that the 63 owners keep crapping on about is complete nonsense and just makes them look conceited and insecure.

/////Tbro

Lol -- I don't really care to be honest. I don't even know enough to know what "hand built" constitutes.. because they sure aren't being given a metal cube and told to file it into an engine. The 43's are tuned by AMG, and they are fast as I need them to be. That's really all I care about and why I chose the 43.

I'm sure part of the issue some 63 owners have comes down to how many cars Mercedes is slapping the AMG badge on to and they're not feeling as unique about it. But that's a different argument on its own. I suppose it would be like me crying about someone getting the "AMG Line" option on the car and throwing a stink because it isn't really an AMG. Whatever... I don't want to steer this thread off topic.

dieseldoc

I was recently at my dealer They had GLC 300 and 43 that were built both at Bremen and Finland.

koojo

Here is the "hand-building" process for AMG engines. More like assembly by hand. In reality, it's nothing that a robot can't do equally as well.

/////Tbro

I know they were building the 300's in Finland. For whatever reason I was under the assumption the 43's were staying in Germany for the time being. Doesn't really matter though I guess.

Interesting stuff. I have full confidence in the ability of machines, possibly with less error rates? I know nothing of their QC process just something that would always be in my mind if my motor was "hand assembled"

mtberman

AFAIK, AMG models are not being built at the Valmet plant in Finland. If they are, they are not being sold in the United States. There are currently lots of Valmet-produced GLC300s in the US, but no GLC43s.