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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 12:16 PM
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DIY-2020 GLC 300-"Check Brake Pads" message

My GLC shows a "Check Brake Pads" message with a big red exclamation point on the dash. It isn't very pleasant when the car is just 3 years old with barely 38000km.

I am now getting ready for the DIY rear brake pads replacement job. And will summarize it in this thread.

Can anyone share the workshop document? e.g:
- torque specs
- tool size
- steps

I replaced my previous cars' brake pads and rotors but this will be the first time for Germany or Mercedes. Any suggestion is welcome.

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Getting ready for rear brake pads replacement. Updated Apr 11, 2023

Parts:
- Brake Pads Rear(000-420-78-03), Quantity: 1, Price: e.g about CND$150
- Wear indicator(169-150-1617), Quantity: 1, Price: e.g about CND$20

Tools:
- 7mm Hex Bit Socket 3/8-in drive for the guide pin.
- 3/8-in drive extension bar 3 inch

Torque Specs:
- BA42.10-P-1003-12V Guide pin to brake caliper support or bolt for guide pin to brake caliper. Nm: 25Nm (18.4 ft-lbs)

Replaced rear brake pads at 42000+km, still have 1mm of meat.

Youtube:

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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by abacnus
My GLC shows a "Check Brake Pads" message with a big red exclamation point on the dash. It isn't very pleasant when the car is just 3 years old with barely 38000km.

I am now getting ready for the DIY rear brake pads replacement job. And will summarize it in this thread.

Can anyone share the workshop document? e.g:
- torque specs
- tool size
- steps

I replaced my previous cars' brake pads and rotors but this will be the first time for Germany or Mercedes. Any suggestion is welcome.
Please see attached docs. Hope it helps.
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Old Jan 12, 2023 | 03:32 AM
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Same issue

Hello, im having the same message on my dash but no red sign so far. When I press the x button on the message it just disappear. I'm suspecting it's telling me the brake pads are nearing time to change. It's frustrating that a 3 years old car shows the sign for change brake, my GMC terrain went on for 10 years with no sign of wear. But that's the ****ty current German specs, not as it used to be. I'll wait for next 45k maintenance and ask them to change. Luckily I got an offer from them last year to get 2 maintenance for free plus change breakpads, as a compensation for hitting my car while in last maintenance. Good luck with your DIY
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Old Jan 12, 2023 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by abacnus
My GLC shows a "Check Brake Pads" message with a big red exclamation point on the dash. It isn't very pleasant when the car is just 3 years old with barely 38000km.....
Originally Posted by wesram
Hello, im having the same message on my dash but no red sign so far. When I press the x button on the message it just disappear. I'm suspecting it's telling me the brake pads are nearing time to change. It's frustrating that a 3 years old car shows the sign for change brake, my GMC terrain went on for 10 years with no sign of wear.....
am I the only one that 30-35000 miles on a set of brake pads is nothing to complain about??
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Old Jan 12, 2023 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by eddieo45
am I the only one that 30-35000 miles on a set of brake pads is nothing to complain about??
I just had my 2018 inspected, fronts 10mm
rears 6mm. Car has 34.5K miles.
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Old Jan 12, 2023 | 12:49 PM
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I just had my 2018 inspected, fronts 10mm, rears 6mm. Car has 34.5K miles.
I'm not saying it can't be done; I've put about 30K on my SL since new pads in 2019 and they're still like new, but if needed pads sooner I'd be more inclined to look at my driving style than to blame the pads.
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Old Jan 12, 2023 | 01:42 PM
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I'm not saying it can't be done; I've put about 30K on my SL since new pads in 2019 and they're still like new, but if needed pads sooner I'd be more inclined to look at my driving style than to blame the pads.
Agreed, but some times landscape can contribute to it too.
Also, i believe i read somewhere, using hold option helps wear pads quicker.
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Old Jan 12, 2023 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DanD.
Agreed, but some times landscape can contribute to it too.
Also, i believe i read somewhere, using hold option helps wear pads quicker.
What about those pre collision assist? I have set it to medium. Sometimes I think it is too sensitive.

I just had the rear pad replaced last November at 293xx km.


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Also, i believe i read somewhere, using hold option helps wear pads quicker.[/QUOTE]

Curious: I use HOLD very often. How would it increase pad wear vs keeping foot on brake pedal?
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Old Jan 13, 2023 | 01:47 PM
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Also, i believe i read somewhere, using hold option helps wear pads quicker.
Curious: I use HOLD very often. How would it increase pad wear vs keeping foot on brake pedal?[/QUOTE]
It won't.
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Old Jan 13, 2023 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mikapen
Curious: I use HOLD very often. How would it increase pad wear vs keeping foot on brake pedal?
It won't.[/quote]

As I understand when its on hold, and you press gas pedal it release the brake but brakes has more pressure vs when you take your food off the brake before pressing gas. Its minimum but in a ling run it can make some difference.
This how I understand. Im not a mechanic.
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DanD.
As I understand when its on hold, and you press gas pedal it release the brake but brakes has more pressure vs when you take your food off the brake before pressing gas. Its minimum but in a ling run it can make some difference.
This how I understand. Im not a mechanic.
If there's no movement, nothing will wear.

Think of a sanding block - it removes material when it's moving.
But if it's just sitting there, like a parking brake pad on a motionless disc, nothing happens. No matter how much force you apply.
Tires, too.
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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mikapen
If there's no movement, nothing will wear.

Think of a sanding block - it removes material when it's moving.
But if it's just sitting there, like a parking brake pad on a motionless disc, nothing happens. No matter how much force you apply.
Tires, too.
There is no movement till you press gas pedal, at that moment parking brake is still active for a milliseconds and holds rotors right at that moment it eats pads a little.
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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DanD.
There is no movement till you press gas pedal, at that moment parking brake is still active for a milliseconds and holds rotors right at that moment it eats pads a little.
It'd be interesting if someone could do a scientific study about this. My assumption would be that we're talking at the micro level and the difference would be negligible at best.
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Old Jan 20, 2023 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by abacnus
My GLC shows a "Check Brake Pads" message with a big red exclamation point on the dash. It isn't very pleasant when the car is just 3 years old with barely 38000km.


I am now getting ready for the DIY rear brake pads replacement job. And will summarize it in this thread.


Can anyone share the workshop document? e.g:

- torque specs

- tool size

- steps


I replaced my previous cars' brake pads and rotors but this will be the first time for Germany or Mercedes. Any suggestion is welcome.

I just replaced rear brake pads on my Mercedes GLC 300 2020. I made a video of steps. Hopefully this helps!


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Old Feb 26, 2023 | 09:18 AM
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Please see attached docs. Hope it helps.
THANK YOU! for posting these. Can you share your source for WIS? I thought MB removed off-line access after 2019.
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Old Feb 26, 2023 | 09:48 AM
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THANK YOU! for posting these. Can you share your source for WIS? I thought MB removed off-line access after 2019.
the source is WIS/ASRA version: 3.15.10.1 (it's old version, but it has all what I need )
I had a chance to buy a VM
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Old Apr 5, 2023 | 05:01 PM
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Can anyone confirm the socket bit tool to unscrew the guide pin for the rear brake pad replacement?

I have been seeing people use T45 Torx or 7mm hex. The diameter of these two is similar. So the chance is that either one could work. But I would like to know which one is the exact fit.

As for torque spec, I think I can confirm that by the document in this thread: "BA42.10-P-1003-12V Guide pin to brake caliper support or bolt for guide pin to brake caliperNm: 25Nm"

That is about 18.4 ft-lbs. It is a low-torque bolt, which makes sense.

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Old Apr 10, 2023 | 11:12 PM
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Just changed the winter tire, so did check and I can confirm now. It is 7mm hex.
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Old Apr 10, 2023 | 11:42 PM
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Old Apr 23, 2023 | 10:21 PM
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Done the rear brake pads replacement at 43000km. Still have 2mm beef.

pretty easy job comparing to Japanese actually.
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Old Apr 26, 2023 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by abacnus
Done the rear brake pads replacement at 43000km. Still have 2mm beef.

pretty easy job comparing to Japanese actually.
Good to know. Thanks for sharing your feedback.
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Old Apr 27, 2023 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by abacnus
Done the rear brake pads replacement at 43000km. Still have 2mm beef.

pretty easy job comparing to Japanese actually.
Thanks for the update OP and surprising to hear it is easy job comparing to Japanese.
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Old May 15, 2023 | 09:01 AM
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Thanks to OP, the newer member with his video above, and all others who contributed here. I'm just about to undertake this rear pad job at 33,000 miles. Rear brakes on many cars seem to be undersized these days, plus the MB ADAS in particular uses rear brakes for several functions like speed regulation and lane departure correction (so aggressive, I usually keep that one off).
Don't pay dealer retail for OE parts. Sites like suburbanautoparts.com and others offer discounts on OE parts, particularly great if you're close enough to one such seller to make a local pick up and avoid shipping costs.
As an example, in that great video above (missing only safety stands, always use those to support your lifted car and not the floor jack!) the dealer's detailed quote shows the rear pads 000-420-87-03 as billed for $117, but the actual part MSRP is just $95 and it's sold elsewhere online for around $70ish. The dealer's service department jacked up the retail list parts prices!
Finally, lessees are required by terms of the MB Finance lease agreement to use only MB OE parts. YMMV, but my Detroit Three high performance division brakes system engineer friend says: don't reengineer your car, the OEs test and refine specs for certain parts like brake pads, stick with OE/OEM replacement on the pads, but rotors can go aftermarket if price matters. On the other hand, my MB boxed 000 420 87 03 purchased at discount contains ATE Ferodo branded pads (with an MB part code), so one could make an informed choice knowing who makes the pads for MB...

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A small caution here. "OE" and "OEM" may be different parts.

An Original Equipment Manufacturer might make other, lower quality parts, not necessarily to Original Equipment specs.

This is especially true with windshields, for example.
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