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Old 04-23-2019 | 12:22 PM
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2019 GLC 43 special order questions

Hello, long time lurker, finally registered

I was going to do a special order for GLC 43 but a few dealers told me it is out of production until fall and they will only take pre-order on 2020 model. Any way for me to know if 2019 is really out of production now? My wife actually likes how pre-2020 model looks like and I do not think we have the patience to wait till fall. And the new grill on 2020 makes it look like GLC 300.

And one dealer told me it will take 90 days to deliver the car while another one said it might be 6 months, especially for the new year model. I saw on this forum some people got it in less than 7 weeks. What would be a realistic expectation?

Finally, to get ambient lights, do I need to purchase LED door sill package? Not sure why they called it like that but based on a description of the build tool on the website, it adds ambient lights as well.

I emailed 6 dealers in Florida, and 3 of them right off the bat told me they could get me 10% off MSRP - was pretty surprised by that as I did not see any current MB incentives.

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Old 04-23-2019 | 01:02 PM
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I don't know if the order window is closed for 2019 so I can't really help you there.

What I can help you with is the wait time. Any time frame of delivery is estimated. I ordered a 2019 May of last year, the vehicle arrived to the US in August, and it was held up at the port of entry until December. I would just keep in mind that it'll take 6 months to receive and any sooner would be a bonus.

As far as finding a 2019 if the order window is closed, you may just have to search nationally.
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Old 04-23-2019 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Barbaris
Hello, long time lurker, finally registered

I was going to do a special order for GLC 43 but a few dealers told me it is out of production until fall and they will only take pre-order on 2020 model. Any way for me to know if 2019 is really out of production now? My wife actually likes how pre-2020 model looks like and I do not think we have the patience to wait till fall. And the new grill on 2020 makes it look like GLC 300.

And one dealer told me it will take 90 days to deliver the car while another one said it might be 6 months, especially for the new year model. I saw on this forum some people got it in less than 7 weeks. What would be a realistic expectation?

Finally, to get ambient lights, do I need to purchase LED door sill package? Not sure why they called it like that but based on a description of the build tool on the website, it adds ambient lights as well.

I emailed 6 dealers in Florida, and 3 of them right off the bat told me they could get me 10% off MSRP - was pretty surprised by that as I did not see any current MB incentives.


Thanks!
2019 is probably out of production . It was the same think last year when I started to look .


I ordered mine last year June 1 when they started to take custom order and got the car November 28 (the car was built second week of July, arrived in US 4th week of August and was stuck at delivery center for 3 weeks )


I don't know what is the new grill to look like but you should be able to swap the grill from the GLC63 for few hundred $


About the ambient lights, It's part of the LED door sill package.


I am sure they can give you 10% on a 2019 , probably even more !

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Old 04-23-2019 | 01:45 PM
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thanks guys! good info!
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looks like quite a lot of people getting 15-16% off GLC 300 off the lot. But is it realistic to expect this sort of discount for 2020 special order GLC 43 AMG? Best I could get is 10.5%, should I look harder? Dealer told me best case scenario, I will get it in late Nov-Dec but I cannot even find pictures of GLC 43
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2019 is out of the question, production is ended..and my wife wants only beige interior and there are only 2 2019 GLC 43 in the entire US with a beige interior with options we do not care about
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Originally Posted by Barbaris
looks like quite a lot of people getting 15-16% off GLC 300 off the lot. But is it realistic to expect this sort of discount for 2020 special order GLC 43 AMG? Best I could get is 10.5%, should I look harder? Dealer told me best case scenario, I will get it in late Nov-Dec but I cannot even find pictures of GLC 43
No. You could probably get 10-12% on a 43 with a motivated dealer on a 2020, but your timing would have to be good (end of month/quarter). Timing seems late, but all depends on beginning of production. In prior years it started in late May or June with late summer delivery for new model years. Perhaps with this mid cycle change they are delaying things a bit.
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I just was really surprised when I emailed 6 dealers and 3 of them gave me 10% off the right of the bat without negotiations and making me jump through hoops. So I got a little suspicious
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I just was really surprised when I emailed 6 dealers and 3 of them gave me 10% off the right of the bat without negotiations and making me jump through hoops. So I got a little suspicious
Hell, give it a shot at 16% and see where it goes...worst they can do is say "no" and then you might end up at still better than 10-12%. Plus, I bought about a year and a half ago and this is a competitive space with overall car sales declining (and higher int rates), so shoot for the moon.
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Yeah I sent a email to a dealer and he offered 8% off top for the 2020. So I bet 10-12% is best unless they really desperate for a sale.
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Originally Posted by Barbaris
2019 is out of the question, production is ended..and my wife wants only beige interior and there are only 2 2019 GLC 43 in the entire US with a beige interior with options we do not care about
Why don't you get one of the 2019 with beige int left . Most of people don't care much for beige and it's probably hard to sale . Take 16% off the MSRP and call them with your price . After all the option you don't care may come free and you don't have to wait !
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Originally Posted by Barbaris
I was going to do a special order for GLC 43 but a few dealers told me it is out of production until fall and they will only take pre-order on 2020 model. ... And the new grill on 2020 makes it look like GLC 300.
I haven't seen any photos of the updated 2020 GLC 43 grill or anything. Please post some photos or share where you have seen the updated 2020 GLC 43.

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Old 04-27-2019 | 02:32 PM
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I haven't seen any photos of the updated 2020 GLC 43 grill or anything. Please post some photos or share where you have seen the updated 2020 GLC 43.

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I created a thread to discuss that, just realized posted it in the wrong forum
https://mbworld.org/forums/glc-class...-pictures.html
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Why don't you get one of the 2019 with beige int left . Most of people don't care much for beige and it's probably hard to sale . Take 16% off the MSRP and call them with your price . After all the option you don't care may come free and you don't have to wait !
well she likes everything but light wood trim and second car is on the other coast and way too loaded. And she is fine waiting till end of year
Old 04-27-2019 | 02:37 PM
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Yeah I sent a email to a dealer and he offered 8% off top for the 2020. So I bet 10-12% is best unless they really desperate for a sale.
got another offer for 10.5% and then emailed local dealer who does not normally negotiate (Autonation no haggle price crap) but their manager just emailed me offering 11%. Really surprised as I had to work pretty hard to get 13% on my scat pack and that was with a big factory rebate from FCA.
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Originally Posted by Barbaris
got another offer for 10.5% and then emailed local dealer who does not normally negotiate (Autonation no haggle price crap) but their manager just emailed me offering 11%. Really surprised as I had to work pretty hard to get 13% on my scat pack and that was with a big factory rebate from FCA.
One think you have to be careful with negotiating on a custom order and this happen to me last year .
I negotiated a 12% off MSRP with the sales person , I asked them a contract but they say not need .
When the car arrived , the manager came and told me that he was not aware of a discount that big and they know that you have been waiting for 6 month and you have this beautiful car waiting sitting in the front of you .
At the end of the day I was able to get 9.5% off but not what I was expecting .
Make sure you have a written contract with them , if they refuse to do it go to the next one !
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One think you have to be careful with negotiating on a custom order and this happen to me last year .
I negotiated a 12% off MSRP with the sales person , I asked them a contract but they say not need .
When the car arrived , the manager came and told me that he was not aware of a discount that big and they know that you have been waiting for 6 month and you have this beautiful car waiting sitting in the front of you .
At the end of the day I was able to get 9.5% off but not what I was expecting .
Make sure you have a written contract with them , if they refuse to do it go to the next one !
ouch, they call them stealerships for a reason! thanks this is a good advise. One thing i do not understand is that one dealer told me I cannot put a deposit since they have not opened ordering for GLC 43 but the one that offered 11% wants to me come tomorrow and put a deposit. I think 11% is pretty fair but yeah I am afraid of any games (you have to buy this cool paint protection package or get our great loan offer at 7%)
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does anyone know why / how dealer wants my deposit if ordering is not open yet for GLC 43? another trick?
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does anyone know why / how dealer wants my deposit if ordering is not open yet for GLC 43? another trick?
I did give them a deposit but never cash it !
I bet if you give them a check they won't cash it ,same for credit card deposit . The reason they do that is make you think you got the deal and you stop shopping around !
Get a written contract
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well she likes everything but light wood trim and second car is on the other coast and way too loaded. And she is fine waiting till end of year
There is no such thing as "too loaded" for these cars. Vehicle shipping coast to coast will run about $900. I'd make a very aggressive offer and see if they bite. Either that or convince your wife that beige is only appropriate for geriatrics and to find another acceptable interior color.
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put a deposit down with a local dealer who commited to give me 11% off msrp. Kinda surprised as they do not normally discount much but maybe they felt in my voice that I would not mind driving 100 miles to get what I want. Took lanoipat's advise and got manager's signature to honor the discount once the car arrives.

Official ordering is not open yet but we used 2019 options to estimate 2020 which I am fine as long as I get this discount.

Someone was picking up at the same time GT 4 63s with matte blue paint - wow what a car. Maybe one day
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There is no such thing as "too loaded" for these cars. Vehicle shipping coast to coast will run about $900. I'd make a very aggressive offer and see if they bite. Either that or convince your wife that beige is only appropriate for geriatrics and to find another acceptable interior color.
haha you are obviously biased. Beige is a very practical and a common color in Florida and MB beige leather / brown combo is really nice indeed
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Originally Posted by Barbaris
put a deposit down with a local dealer who commited to give me 11% off msrp. Kinda surprised as they do not normally discount much but maybe they felt in my voice that I would not mind driving 100 miles to get what I want. Took lanoipat's advise and got manager's signature to honor the discount once the car arrives.

Official ordering is not open yet but we used 2019 options to estimate 2020 which I am fine as long as I get this discount.

Someone was picking up at the same time GT 4 63s with matte blue paint - wow what a car. Maybe one day

That's awesome...I'm supposed to meet locally with a dealer today so we shall see.
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Just to clarify, are people seeing 10% off MSRP before taxes and title or 10% off out the door price?
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Just to clarify, are people seeing 10% off MSRP before taxes and title or 10% off out the door price?
I found that it is much easier to negotiate using % off MSRP and to compare offers from other dealers. Some of them include factory incentives or your personal incentives, some are not. Invoice price does not mean much these days - most dealers and brands have holdbacks from the manufacturer and different bonuses depending on how many cars they sell (normally tier-based system).

Trade-in should be also excluded from this and honestly, you will be better off selling your car to carmax or carvana.

Taxes and fees are going to be the same.

Web-sites like truecar and edmunds play these games as well now and to me, it feels like they are on a dealer side and just make lazy people feel better.

There is no excuse these days not to email 10-15 dealers around you and have them compete for your business. Do not even go to a dealership before you have a good offer via email or text, you will be wasting time. Dealers who do not answer via email or text - it is their problem, just move on and negotiate with dealers who use YOUR preferred way of communications.

Other people like to look at Out of the door price (OTD) but then it is much more difficult to compare offers from various dealers because of factors above.

In my case, I emailed ~14 dealers in Florida (all dealers have a contact us form on their sites). 5 of them told me they would never give a discount on special orders - ah, okay, bad for them. 1 dealer told me they would never discount any AMG models - ah, okay, bad for them. 5 ignored my email request or sent me an auto-rely to my very detailed message where I outline exactly what I wanted, my timeline, options and such (you have to let them feel you are serious).

Finally, 3 dealers answered my email straight to the point. Gave me % and I started to negotiate with them. Once I got the best offer from 100 miles from me, I sent emails again to our local dealers (we have 3) and asked them to beat. 2 said no and 1 said yes.

I felt I could do a bit better but in the end of day it is how you feel about the deal. Getting 11% off a special order car built for you, and the car has not released yet is a very good deal and I feel good about it

I used the same strategy when I got a car for myself and it worked pretty well too.

This was also part of the game for me to get the best offer

Hope it helps!
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