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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon
You are correct on that one. The version to be used in the GLE is the exact same tune as in the 2018 E400, however. The 2018 GLE engine is rated at 385 hp & 384 lb-ft. vs. 329/354, so a significant detune with I expect different turbos.
No it's the same engine and none of this has anything to do with anything concerning the next GLE. It's all the same engine man. A detune wouldn't require different turbos. That's backwards. This is a higher state of tune. HP numbers are usually software changes in a turbo engine like this. It not a new anything. The only version of this engine that got a real work over was in the outgoing E43 Sedan, 396hp. E53 is replacing that with the I6 this fall.

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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by schroedinger
What is new is the 9-speed auto. That wasn't offered in the GLE400 when it was around, and has been GLE43 only.
I don't get the point of the question. There is nothing new here. It's the same transmission that is in every other Benz.

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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 11:26 AM
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I don't get the point of the question. There is nothing new here. It's the same transmission that is in every other Benz.
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The 2018 GLE 350 has the 7G-TRONIC transmission; only the turbo models have the 9-speed.
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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon
The 2018 GLE 350 has the 7G-TRONIC transmission; only the turbo models have the 9-speed.
Yes I know, that really doesn't have anything to do with anything here. The 9 speed is used all over the Benz lineup, it's an off the shelf transmission is the point. The GLE350 is the outlier at this point. Heck it is still using a completely dated naturally aspirated V6.


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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Germancar1
Yes I know, that really doesn't have anything to do with anything here. The 9 speed is used all over the Benz lineup, it's an off the shelf transmission is the point. The GLE350 is the outlier at this point. Heck it is still using a completely dated naturally aspirated V6.
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The point is, which could have been better stated, that the turbo-V6 and 9-speed are new for the BASE GLE in 2019. That's all.

Whew, now that we have that settled on to the W167. I'll bet there are some in Vance & Stuttgart reading this forum chuckling about our musings.
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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Germancar1
Yes I know, that really doesn't have anything to do with anything here. The 9 speed is used all over the Benz lineup, it's an off the shelf transmission is the point. The GLE350 is the outlier at this point. Heck it is still using a completely dated naturally aspirated V6.


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It is a transmission that was not used on the earlier ML400 and GLE400, hence the powertrain is new.

Also, the 9-speed is not used on any of the hybrids or the V12s. 2018 was the first year in the E63. Yes, it's becoming used all over, but not one fell swoop.
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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon
The point is, which could have been better stated, that the turbo-V6 and 9-speed are new for the BASE GLE in 2019. That's all.

Whew, now that we have that settled on to the W167. I'll bet there are some in Vance & Stuttgart reading this forum chuckling about our musings.
What does that any of that matter when the same engine is already in use in the GLE line to begin with? Do you just not understand that the same V6 and transmission has already been in use in the GLE43 models already? You keep saying it's new, it isn't new to the GLE.

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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Germancar1
What does that any of that matter when the same engine is already in use in the GLE line to begin with? Do you just not understand that the same V6 and transmission has already been in use in the GLE43 models already? You keep saying it's new, it isn't new to the GLE.
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Read my lips, "... the turbo-V6 and 9-speed are new for the BASE GLE in 2019."
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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 03:55 PM
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Read my lips, "... the turbo-V6 and 9-speed are new for the BASE GLE in 2019."
What difference does that make when it is already being used in the GLE period? Look, your original point was to imply that Mercedes went through some effort to make this change, to say that the current GLE must be sticking around for a while. That's just irrelevant. There was no great effort when the same engine and transmission is being already in the same vehicle. It doesn't matter if it is the base engine/trans or not. It's already in the GLE. I don't understand what you aren't getting.

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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by schroedinger
It is a transmission that was not used on the earlier ML400 and GLE400, hence the powertrain is new.

Also, the 9-speed is not used on any of the hybrids or the V12s. 2018 was the first year in the E63. Yes, it's becoming used all over, but not one fell swoop.
It's already in the 2018 GLE43 models. What is the point? I didn't say that it was used in EVERY Mercedes I said they use it all over the lineup which they do. The ones you listed are outliers, not the norm.

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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 04:05 PM
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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 04:13 PM
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The new one is going to be a looker that is for sure.

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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 06:28 PM
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How much lower does the roofline look? Maybe it’s just the perspective but it looks lower and smaller than the present Gen to me.

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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 07:06 PM
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Perhaps it's just me, but it looks sort of like an updated GLC and while we like our GLC we've never felt the GLC is exactly a pretty SUV. I would have preferred a more cutting edge look. Other than the headlights, it's not a stunner to my eyes.
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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 08:23 PM
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Perhaps it's just me, but it looks sort of like an updated GLC and while we like our GLC we've never felt the GLC is exactly a pretty SUV. I would have preferred a more cutting edge look. Other than the headlights, it's not a stunner to my eyes.
No, not stunning, just modestly updated. I don't think you can expect Mercedes to go too far out for a bread-and-butter model. On the flip side that means the design doesn't get dated as quickly. This appears to be the GLE 450, in probably not the best color for it.
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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 08:45 PM
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Anybody else caught it? That nose and rear is CGI rendering. Look at the paint.
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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 09:19 PM
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Yep, clearly It's not an official pic.

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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 10:15 PM
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Sure looks exactly like the German video one from the earlier post. If it’s real it is a plain Jane but it could look a lot better with premium trim and wheels. The Audi Q8 and new Bimmer are both better looking, IMO. Looks can be Polarizing but for me there are several equal or more important things to consider.
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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 10:27 PM
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Anybody else caught it? That nose and rear is CGI rendering. Look at the paint.
Viewing on my 28" monitor, I'm not sure I'm seeing what your're seeing. The reflections on the front and rear which were previously camoed seem right and the plate looks authentic and doesn't match the previous ones seen. If there are some running totally exposed that's a good sign!

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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 10:37 PM
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The top of the dash, visible through the windshield, suggests the rectangular MBUX display seen in interior spy shots.
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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 10:41 PM
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I’m convinced it’s a real picture of a Proto, Pr Production or maybe the final product. The Video link is from Auto Bild - a leading German automobile magazine based in Hamburg, Germany. Wikipedia
Under the Video translated from German to English is a caption that it is coming Autumn 2018. So if all that’s true Germany, maybe Europe will get the car before the USA. Let them shake out any bugs!
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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 10:47 PM
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The top of the dash, visible through the windshield, suggests the rectangular MBUX display seen in interior spy shots.
This was previously confirmed - see posts #163 & 177 this thread.
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Yes it does compete with GLC. And as I've mentioned, I'd have already ordered a 2019 GLC IF I could have Comand and Apple Play, but sadly, even if you pay over $60,000 for a nicely optioned GLC, you can have one or the other, but not both.
You are wise to hold off because of this. My biggest disappointment with my GLC43 and am just baffled why MB doesn't have COMAND and ACP/AA together in the GLC even for the upcoming 2019 model. The GLA45 has had it for a couple years now and the C class will have the option for getting both in 2019 model year. Apparently, the NTG5.5 system can handle both, so not sure why MB is leaving it out of a model that is in probably the hottest segment right now. I'd gladly pay MB for a retro if they offered it. I didn't want something as big as a GLE, but certainly a great vehicle.
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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon
Viewing on my 28" monitor, I'm not sure I'm seeing what your're seeing. The reflections on the front and rear which were previously camoed seem right and the plate looks authentic and doesn't match the previous ones seen. If there are some running totally exposed that's a good sign!
I posted these pics but I'm in the camp that both are well crafted Photoshop pics. It's doubtful MB would allow a yet to be released model to be driven in plain view. That said, these photos are likely very close to how the finished GLE may appear. Looks promising.
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