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Old Jun 10, 2020 | 08:53 AM
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Is anyone slightly annoyed by the fact that no software updates are being released for our 2020 GLEs?
I have mine for over half a year now, and some of you have had their vehicles for a year.
There was one map update upon delivery for mine, that's all to date.
Every other modern device I own updates on a regular basis.
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Old Jun 10, 2020 | 01:01 PM
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Agree Bad habit, mine is booked in for service (12 month) in a couple of weeks and I am told there are no updates. Updated my nav last August but nothing since.
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Old Jun 10, 2020 | 01:13 PM
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I would like the software to recognize the reality experienced by mainly two provinces with predominantly French names of places (Québec and New Brunswick, along with parts of Ontario). The voice recognition software is useless when set to English and voicing French names. Even if it were set in French, it is insufferable.
For Example, I f I want to go to boulevard Pie-IX named after pope Pious IX, I would say something resembling phonetically to "Boolevar Pee nuff", but the AI (be it MBUX, Google Maps, Waze, or Apple Maps) cannot figure out Roman numbers in places, let alone the name itself.

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Old Jun 10, 2020 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bad habit
Is anyone slightly annoyed by the fact that no software updates are being released for our 2020 GLEs?
I have mine for over half a year now, and some of you have had their vehicles for a year.
There was one map update upon delivery for mine, that's all to date.
Every other modern device I own updates on a regular basis.
My 350 GLE will be one year old in 3 days. I have updated my maps manually twice. The Infotainment System has had two automatic updates, one in March and one in April. My vehicle was in for its 1st service last week and I had them check for any other software updates. They told me that everything was up to date.
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Old Jun 10, 2020 | 07:45 PM
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I thought I might have had an OTA update recently because my phone pairing dropped and the backtrack feature started working correctly. My version # hasn’t changed so??? Also my Mercedes me has quit notifying me of open doors. Still can’t figure that out!
There were a number of updates to mine in May, June 2019 but they were probably already installed in new builds for those and subsequent months.
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Old Jun 10, 2020 | 09:51 PM
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Personally, I would much prefer Mercedes (and any companies with software) to release small but frequent update. The advantage of this approach (in my opinion) are:
- Let the user knows that the company cares about the user by releasing updates (based on feedback, new ideas, etc)
- Smaller update means if stuff goes wrong, the impact would be smaller (large update has a higher chance of impacting multiple systems, and could have increase the learning curve of new features on user)
- Shorter development cycle, meaning the amount of time needed for the coding, testing, and QA will be shorter in general.
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Old Jun 11, 2020 | 07:24 AM
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BMW X5 offers a feature that uses the built in camera as a dash cam. I’m really hoping Mercedes offers this in an OTA update in the GLE350.
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Old Jun 11, 2020 | 09:09 AM
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Mercedes Me no longer notifies vehicle unlocked

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I thought I might have had an OTA update recently because my phone pairing dropped and the backtrack feature started working correctly. My version # hasn’t changed so??? Also my Mercedes me has quit notifying me of open doors. Still can’t figure that out!
There were a number of updates to mine in May, June 2019 but they were probably already installed in new builds for those and subsequent months.
My GLS also stopped notifying me the vehicle is unlocked the past few weeks. I assumed it stopped because it is normal for it to be unlocked because it is in the locked garage. It didn't notify me the other day when I forgot to lock it in a general parking lot. I can't figure this one out. I forget to lock it because my other car locks automatically when I walk away. Nice feature!
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Old Jun 11, 2020 | 01:19 PM
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One feature I miss from the Mercedes me App, is the quite useful ability to open/close windows remotely. It was there a year ago, and it seems to have disappeared around the fall of 2019.
If you left your car in your friend's back yard and it starts raining, it was faster to use than to run outside and close the windows from the car. or say as you walk toward your car on a hot day, it was a great way to vent your car of excess heat.
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Old Jun 11, 2020 | 01:27 PM
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One feature I miss from the Mercedes me App, is the quite useful ability to open/close windows remotely. It was there a year ago, and it seems to have disappeared around the fall of 2019.
If you left your car in your friend's back yard and it starts raining, it was faster to use than to run outside and close the windows from the car. or say as you walk toward your car on a hot day, it was a great way to vent your car of excess heat.
You could do the same with the remote if you are in range (holding down lock/unlock button)
But I agree, it would be nice to be able to do that from the app where remote is slightly out of range but car is still in view. (I don't think anyone would open the window when they can't see the car )
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Old Jun 11, 2020 | 03:37 PM
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I am really missing climate control in the app to be honest 😊
Last meaningful update of the iOS app was nearly 10 months back, bugfixes only afterwards
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Old Jun 11, 2020 | 04:11 PM
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They also removed remote start from the Apple Watch app. I can see how much fuel is in the tank though.... ;/
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Old Jun 11, 2020 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by zengshengliu
Personally, I would much prefer Mercedes (and any companies with software) to release small but frequent update. The advantage of this approach (in my opinion) are:
- Let the user knows that the company cares about the user by releasing updates (based on feedback, new ideas, etc)
- Smaller update means if stuff goes wrong, the impact would be smaller (large update has a higher chance of impacting multiple systems, and could have increase the learning curve of new features on user)
- Shorter development cycle, meaning the amount of time needed for the coding, testing, and QA will be shorter in general.
The agile approach versus waterfall. Not as easy to do when there are safety regulations involved that require extensive regression to testing to ensure a change you make doesn’t inadvertently screw something else up. The more lines of code the more complicated it gets. Not sure what S/W development method Mercedes uses, I’m guessing it’s waterfall. If you really want to do agile you have to build it that way from the start. Segregate and partition the safety critical functions from the non-critical functions. Any change to a safety critical function requires extensive testing.

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Old Jun 12, 2020 | 01:06 AM
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The agile approach versus waterfall. Not as easy to do when there are safety regulations involved that require extensive regression to testing to ensure a change you make doesn’t inadvertently screw something else up. The more lines of code the more complicated it gets. Not sure what S/W development method Mercedes uses, I’m guessing it’s waterfall. If you really want to do agile you have to build it that way from the start. Segregate and partition the safety critical functions from the non-critical functions. Any change to a safety critical function requires extensive testing.
I am not suggesting for them to change their SDLC. I just want to see them decrease the scope of each cycle. Instead of a giant release, I would think it would be better to have smaller releases. This should also decrease the amount of time needed for testing. This should be achievable whether of not they use waterfall model or agile, or any of the other SDLC model.
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Old Jun 12, 2020 | 01:12 AM
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I have owned at GLE 580 since March and no updates since. I have received at least 4 updates with net-new features on my Tesla in that same time frame. Wish traditional automakers could keep up with the pace of software driven innovation that Tesla is providing. I believe all auto companies need to have a mindset that they are also technology companies. Even with the safety and regulatory requirements, this can be done.
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Old Jun 12, 2020 | 08:01 AM
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Small incremental updates with some fixes and some new features would be welcome. This is what nearly every other manufacturer does.
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Old Jun 12, 2020 | 08:29 AM
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One has to wonder if they even have a team dedicated to fixes and enhancements of the GLE base vehicle. They could have one team that has been working on the AMG enhancements or at least the most talented members. Then there are the large staff reductions announced months ago-how many from MBUX?
As to regression testing, it might be less than thorough. For example my 450 delivered in April 2019 had the camera and radar out of sync until July 2019. During that time there were several dangerous safety related events when using Distronic....not to mention LKA that reset to on and malfunctioned frequently.
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Old Jun 12, 2020 | 05:26 PM
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My GLS also stopped notifying me the vehicle is unlocked the past few weeks. I assumed it stopped because it is normal for it to be unlocked because it is in the locked garage. It didn't notify me the other day when I forgot to lock it in a general parking lot. I can't figure this one out. I forget to lock it because my other car locks automatically when I walk away. Nice feature!
It's funny, now that you mention it, I don't get that notification no longer either. It use to annoy me when I would park in the garage at home and then get the notification that it was not locked but I just sucked it up since I knew I would appreciate it if I was out somewhere and forgot to lock it. Now I no longer get the notifications. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Old Jun 12, 2020 | 05:32 PM
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Still get notifications in UK.
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Old Jun 12, 2020 | 05:34 PM
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Still get notifications in UK.
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Must be a glitch after the last update to the App...surprise... surprise. I can get it to work once by logging in and checking the vehicle but drops after that. Checking permissions I don't see anything to stop notifications.
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The website also hasn't been updated...
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Old Jun 15, 2020 | 08:34 AM
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Old Jun 23, 2020 | 07:33 PM
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Just saw news that Mercedes and Nvidia is going to partner on the infotainment system starting in 2024. I wonder what will happen to the current (and relatively new) MBUX.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/23/2...iving-adas-ota
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Originally Posted by zengshengliu
Just saw news that Mercedes and Nvidia is going to partner on the infotainment system starting in 2024. I wonder what will happen to the current (and relatively new) MBUX.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/23/2...iving-adas-ota
Mercedes and Nvidia have been partners for a while and the current MBUX (in the most recent generation of the GLE/GLS) uses Nvidia hardware. The article referred above seems to relate to the next generation features that will likely include level 5 autonomous driving.
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