2021 GLE 450 checking oil level
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2021 GLE 450
2021 GLE 450 checking oil level
I understand there is no dipstick to manually check the oil level? Manual online says the vehicle has to be driven for 30 minutes before a level can be determined?
Is this correct? The book says the vehicle needs to be on level ground and you access it through the screen on the car? How do you check the level of the oil if it doesn't work?
If the level is low, you have to drive it before you can get a reading before adding oil if needed?
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Anybody know about the procedure here?
Appreciated.
Toban
Is this correct? The book says the vehicle needs to be on level ground and you access it through the screen on the car? How do you check the level of the oil if it doesn't work?
If the level is low, you have to drive it before you can get a reading before adding oil if needed?
HHUUMM!
Anybody know about the procedure here?
Appreciated.
Toban
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I understand there is no dipstick to manually check the oil level? Manual online says the vehicle has to be driven for 30 minutes before a level can be determined?
Is this correct? The book says the vehicle needs to be on level ground and you access it through the screen on the car? How do you check the level of the oil if it doesn't work?
If the level is low, you have to drive it before you can get a reading before adding oil if needed?
HHUUMM!
Anybody know about the procedure here?
Appreciated.
Toban
Is this correct? The book says the vehicle needs to be on level ground and you access it through the screen on the car? How do you check the level of the oil if it doesn't work?
If the level is low, you have to drive it before you can get a reading before adding oil if needed?
HHUUMM!
Anybody know about the procedure here?
Appreciated.
Toban
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2021 GLE 450
So, there's no manual way of checking the oil level?
I guess if the sensor quits or it just doesn't want to work you are out of luck?
Has anyone had any issues with the sensor or not being able to find out what the oil level is?
Wonder why they wouldn't leave a dipstick there just in case.
I saw this in the manual online but was just wondering.
Toban
I guess if the sensor quits or it just doesn't want to work you are out of luck?
Has anyone had any issues with the sensor or not being able to find out what the oil level is?
Wonder why they wouldn't leave a dipstick there just in case.
I saw this in the manual online but was just wondering.
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Checking the oil
So, there's no manual way of checking the oil level?
I guess if the sensor quits or it just doesn't want to work you are out of luck?
Has anyone had any issues with the sensor or not being able to find out what the oil level is?
Wonder why they wouldn't leave a dipstick there just in case.
I saw this in the manual online but was just wondering.
Toban
I guess if the sensor quits or it just doesn't want to work you are out of luck?
Has anyone had any issues with the sensor or not being able to find out what the oil level is?
Wonder why they wouldn't leave a dipstick there just in case.
I saw this in the manual online but was just wondering.
Toban
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Sensor also warns of overfill, which is nice. Assuming sensor has reasonable lifespan and reliability, feels like an extra set of eyes...
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So, there's no manual way of checking the oil level?
I guess if the sensor quits or it just doesn't want to work you are out of luck?
Has anyone had any issues with the sensor or not being able to find out what the oil level is?
Wonder why they wouldn't leave a dipstick there just in case.
I saw this in the manual online but was just wondering.
Toban
I guess if the sensor quits or it just doesn't want to work you are out of luck?
Has anyone had any issues with the sensor or not being able to find out what the oil level is?
Wonder why they wouldn't leave a dipstick there just in case.
I saw this in the manual online but was just wondering.
Toban
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Nah, just another way to possibly get reoccurring costs and therefore you “might” bring it to a dealership and they “might” get to charge you something?
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Yeah we got our first no-dipstick experience back in 2007 on the first E70 X5, it was weird to not be able to pop the hood and check/see/smell the oil. I guess the car was never meant to be DIY'ed lol.
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So, there's no manual way of checking the oil level?
I guess if the sensor quits or it just doesn't want to work you are out of luck?
Has anyone had any issues with the sensor or not being able to find out what the oil level is?
Wonder why they wouldn't leave a dipstick there just in case.
I saw this in the manual online but was just wondering.
Toban
I guess if the sensor quits or it just doesn't want to work you are out of luck?
Has anyone had any issues with the sensor or not being able to find out what the oil level is?
Wonder why they wouldn't leave a dipstick there just in case.
I saw this in the manual online but was just wondering.
Toban
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I know that this is an older post. I would just clarify that this is the "norm" with German vehicles today. BMW started this before MB. Our 2021 Cadillac Escalade, my 2020 3/4 ton Super Duty (of course not-we rednecks would stage a mutiny), nor any American vehicle I've seen has this. There are numerous reasons for them doing this. Without being perjorative-(which I kind of am-by default)- most in the demographic that buy these cars are probably happy about this-as they don't know "come here from sick-um" about checking oil as we have since dirt. My largest complaint is that they don't have redundant methods (a dipstick and automated sensor). One version would be good for people like me, the other for the masses that buy these vehicles who live in apartments, high rises, etc. (I think I may have been generalizing again).
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I know that this is an older post. I would just clarify that this is the "norm" with German vehicles today. BMW started this before MB. Our 2021 Cadillac Escalade, my 2020 3/4 ton Super Duty (of course not-we rednecks would stage a mutiny), nor any American vehicle I've seen has this. There are numerous reasons for them doing this. Without being perjorative-(which I kind of am-by default)- most in the demographic that buy these cars are probably happy about this-as they don't know "come here from sick-um" about checking oil as we have since dirt. My largest complaint is that they don't have redundant methods (a dipstick and automated sensor). One version would be good for people like me, the other for the masses that buy these vehicles who live in apartments, high rises, etc. (I think I may have been generalizing again).
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I think we're probably both right! They're cutting costs wherever they can, and they're pushing costumers to use the dealer for routine service.
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Plus, under hood aerodynamics are increasingly important.
Hard to say.
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So by default - what you are saying is that the Germans are building cheaper made cars than Americans? I'm not sure about this. The same contingent happy about the "no dip stick MBs" are the same folks (actually not - different demographic of owners - again) on my Nautique Forum who don't think that winterizing their boat is necessary...
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By deductive logic, this would imply that American vehicles can't maintain proper crankcase pressure for emissions with the dipsticks used for oil level measurement?
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So by default - what you are saying is that the Germans are building cheaper made cars than Americans? I'm not sure about this. The same contingent happy about the "no dip stick MBs" are the same folks (actually not - different demographic of owners - again) on my Nautique Forum who don't think that winterizing their boat is necessary...
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You need to understand how emissions are measured, to know that dipsticks' days are numbered.
All engines generate crankcase pressure. Anything that escapes adds to the emissions of that vehicle.
It has nothing to do with where the cars are made.
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Well, that's an illogical response!
You need to understand how emissions are measured, to know that dipsticks' days are numbered.
All engines generate crankcase pressure. Anything that escapes adds to the emissions of that vehicle.
It has nothing to do with where the cars are made.
You need to understand how emissions are measured, to know that dipsticks' days are numbered.
All engines generate crankcase pressure. Anything that escapes adds to the emissions of that vehicle.
It has nothing to do with where the cars are made.
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While maintaining our other fleets of german fine automobiles, we found out that Audi actually allows you to have a dipstick AND oil level sensor:
Do we have this option at all for MB's, anyone know? I haven't.
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I am a VP for the largest environmental company in the US - (I have worked for them for 32 years). I am acutely aware of how and where emissions are measured. This isn't why the dipticks have been eliminated by the Germans. Worrying about a dipstick's contribution to emissions from an internal combustion engine is akin to "worrying about the fire ants while the elephants stomp down the barn". The Germans eliminated dipsticks for the reasons mentioned via the posts above, period.
I am VERY familiar with e-testing. Dipsticks and other crankcase leaks are measured during the testing procedure. BTW this includes transmission and differential vents, not just dipsticks. I'm sure you have heard of Charcoal Canisters, which have been around for decades - an early version of containing non-combustion emissions sources. That emphasis hasn't gone away.
Your analogy about the Fire Ants is appropriate. Fire Ants can take down an elephant, and the EPA counts those ants.
A manufacturer that doesn't pay attention to all emissions sources, especially in this day of "eliminate ICE's," probably is on the way out.
Mercedes has put a lot of money into designing their oil change procedures, dipstick replacement, and related consumables - Germany is much stricter than the US on their Tier XX requirements. It's certainly NOT a cost-saving measure.
edit to add: And my earlier comment about underhood aerodynamics applies here, too. Making an access to the dipstick, and the structure itself, is a consideration. As engines get more compact, that airflow becomes more important.
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